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Holding lobbies hostage for primary role

Greenguh·10/24/2017, 3:57:11 AM·12 votes·1,456 views

TL;DR: taking a lobby hostage should be punished without having to play the game out with a troll.

I'm sure many of you have experienced it: someone in a ranked champ select demands whatever happens to be their primary role (in my most recent encounter, it was mid). If they are refused then they threaten to troll (again, in my case he threatened to go AP Kindred top). I know that the player wanted to get someone to dodge so that he could get his role without demanding, but I also knew that he would more than likely carry out his threat if the lobby wasn't dodged (he had already locked in as kindred). So I waited until the last second, took screenshots of the chat, and dodged so that I could get into a better lobby and avoid the annoyance.

I then write up a report on the support site, making sure to fully explain the situation and include the screenshots and send it in. I've seen posts about this type of thing before where riot simply brushes the report aside, saying that the player should have played the game and reported the player afterwards. I don't know how much I or anyone else can emphasize this to RIOT: THIS IS A TERRIBLE RESPONSE. Players that hold lobbies hostage in this way are clearly circumventing the autofill system disgustingly, and in many cases they get away with it because there's no way to report within lobby and even when players go out of their way to help improve the community, their time and efforts are wasted because RIOT simply ignores the problem that so many people are bringing up.

The reason I'm posting this here is because the rioter that responded to my report recommended that I make a new thread about this because it might gain traction and attention. I hope it does because this type of behavior is plainly disgusting and should be punished harshly. The people who Dodge these lobbies shouldn't be penalized because they are unwilling to force their teammates through such an awful experience (that will likely result in a larger loss than the alternative)

Thank you for taking the time out of your day to read this, and I hope that you have a better experience than I did.

7 Comments

A Sealed Box10/24/2017, 8:55:16 AM3 votes

It doesn't just extend to Ranked games. That kind of toxic mentality is common even in Normals.

Personally, I'd suggest a "voting system" in the pregame lobby. If someone is being a jackass and holding the game hostage, the others can vote to dodge the game with no penalty on them. The person can only vote "Yes" a limited amount of times before they have to wait, let's say 24 hours (using the time arbitrarily), before their votes are refreshed.

Will it get rid of the problem? No. Toxic players can and will find a way around it, so there's nothing that Riot can do without making the entire community go up-in-arms about how they're being oppressed, or whatever. However, I can see it being another roadblock that toxic players have to take effort to going around. The toxic player must be dedicated to their craft to make others miserable and take pleasure in doing so if they are going to spend more time trying to get around that roadblock than actually playing the game.

This is a rough idea, but it's a start for discussion. Personally, I hate that players who aren't toxic are punished in a lose-lose situation while the toxic player has no real repercussions for being a terrible person to 9 other people in pregame lobby. It's a lose-lose because if someone wants to avoid that toxic player, they'll have to dodge and get hit with a 15 minute wait time for "queue dodging", while if they decide to stay in, it's a loss because they'll have to deal with that toxic player for 15-40+ minutes.

Chermorg10/24/2017, 12:10:48 PM2 votes

Riot does not brush the report aside at all. They review every support ticket and take appropriate action. For privacy reasons, they won't tell you what's done.

Magical Player10/24/2017, 5:35:38 AM1 votes

Sadly it would be abused very easily

3 people no lets make it 4 people think the game is unwinable in select you have a 30% win rate jungler, hes not bad. Just not great and loses alot on that jungle, but he tries very hard You all say fuck him, and hes trolling you 4 agree to the vote and get the game remade and punish an innocent player

Yes it sucks but if a game is unwinable dodge, riot gave you a way to fix games like that from happening. In the rare cases where there indeed is a "troll" roll the dice and report, chat logs are reviewed otherwise we're convicting people of a crime they haven't done yet

Just my 2 cents about this idea

Rainfall10/24/2017, 11:13:26 AM1 votes

you can't ban someone for saying they will troll when most people get away with actual trolling.

Friendly Ram10/24/2017, 4:38:49 PM1 votes

Meh i just ignore those prats normally because I've only had two actually troll. all the others either dodged or played their assigned role.