Getting banned for no reason

1mn0tu420·8/25/2019, 1:49:30 AM·1 votes·1,895 views

It never shows what the Troll or instigator or negative person says or does nor does your support/banning team even bother looking into it... here is a copy of what "I said" NOTHING that should be banning... Game 1 In-Game 1mn0tu420: finally 1mn0tu420: muting you 1mn0tu420: this Kayle just makes me mad cuz he the player that worries about telling others what to do and shit 1mn0tu420: start pinging me in the beginning excessively and shit 1mn0tu420: and yet my tower almost half down 1mn0tu420: hate idiots like that 1mn0tu420: like I said idiots.... can't change anything about em... not even when it's being typed they don't understand 1mn0tu420: I.Q. = 12 1mn0tu420: I should be better because I dropped an enemy tower to half percent where he can't attack it down to 99% 1mn0tu420: lol idiot 1mn0tu420: 2 v 1 a WW and this guy 1mn0tu420: is a bot 1mn0tu420: damn 1mn0tu420: YOU ARE AN IDIOT 1mn0tu420: Qi 1mn0tu420: if you are new 1mn0tu420: don't listen to this idiot 1mn0tu420: god help you 1mn0tu420: be careful that Rayze hurts 1mn0tu420: Kayle is a champion that takes no skill 1mn0tu420: so if you listen to that chump he will lead you astray 1mn0tu420: his ulti is down 1mn0tu420: sigh 1mn0tu420: no WW 1mn0tu420: and that sad part Qi 1mn0tu420: Kayle can literally destroy a tower with auto attack in like less than one minute 1mn0tu420: but yet I think the bots did more damage than his dumb ass 1mn0tu420: someone knows that game 1mn0tu420: where as you 1mn0tu420: just act like it 1mn0tu420: careful WW 1mn0tu420: I play for wins idiot 1mn0tu420: learn 1mn0tu420: cs means one person can hit minions kills 1mn0tu420: explained 1mn0tu420: leave me be and learn 1mn0tu420: thx Qi 1mn0tu420: see in the real game of league 1mn0tu420: it don't matter than a person has 200 cs and 32 kills 2 deaths 1mn0tu420: the win or loss counts 1mn0tu420: and if he isn't a team player and only sees himself 1mn0tu420: you will always lose 1mn0tu420: hence 1mn0tu420: why his lane can't be pushed 1mn0tu420: lol run puppy 1mn0tu420: if you feel the facts I stated are toxic then report... league will sort 1mn0tu420: but I assure you nothing was toxic only true 1mn0tu420: he the one that ran and tried to gank 1mn0tu420: mad cuz I'm not an idiot LOL 1mn0tu420: lol 1mn0tu420: sorry to say you have kids and you have winners... this Ahri = winner =) 1mn0tu420: WW you are good player and Ryze hurts 1mn0tu420: facts... Kayle... is stupid 1mn0tu420: facts 1mn0tu420: 1 v1 doesn't mean anything... go play call of duty 1mn0tu420: this is a team game 1mn0tu420: got u hurt 1mn0tu420: *god 1mn0tu420: magic damage 1mn0tu420: I was thinking to defend against WW but you hurt worse 1mn0tu420: steal that bitch 1mn0tu420: str8 owned.. Kayle came to steal but couldn't 1mn0tu420: cuz he stayed on bot like 8 minutes in beginning of game 1mn0tu420: you're an idiot Post-Game 1mn0tu420: no 1mn0tu420: just earned mines 1mn0tu420: you haven't earned nothing but an autoattack champion 1mn0tu420: and couldn't even push your lane 1mn0tu420: I stated fact 1mn0tu420: don't worry you were reported for your harassement

these are facts... it doesn't matter if a player sits on a bot in a TT and scored 20 kills against that bot and buys high lvl weapons and then starts talking smack to his teammates but do you see any of that?? no... this is BS to ban me and even say it's worth a permanent ban.. I called a kid out and stated your 20 kills don't matter if you can't push your lane. I even let someone know that if they were knew not to follow idiots like these because they are everywhere...a team game matters on the team.. if your teammate is in need of help and you care about getting a kill on a bot what does that do except let your teammate die and give the enemy gold. This player harassed me all game but where is that??? A mastery 7 can only be EARNED on a 5 v 5 map not a TT with bots... that's all I stated and you ban me?? Lift my ban ... start looking into the idiot kid instigators instead of the ones standing up for your game trying to increase intelligent player base instead of troll player base.

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KFCeytron8/25/2019, 4:11:32 AM3 votes

So, it has come to this: someone displayed misbehavior in a LoL match in flagrant disregard for the game's rules, ToS, EULA, and Summoner's Code. That's unfortunate, and I'm sorry you had to deal with it. If this misbehavior happened in chat (including emotes or ping) and they don't respond positively to a single, courteous, constructive request to focus on the game, your best option is to mute that player. Submit a report after the match. This is equivalent to dealing with a noisy person in a library by asking them to keep it down and then notifying library staff and moving to another area.

Do not respond with misbehavior of your own! If you do that, your teammates may mute and report you, and those reports would be valid. This is equivalent to dealing with a noisy person in a library by getting into a shouting match with them. Just because someone else started it doesn't justify you in continuing it. I'm sure you're familiar with the "s/he started it" trope, where two children get into an argument or fight and then try to claim innocence of any wrongdoing by claiming that they didn't instigate it. As any parent, teacher, or other supervisor of children will tell you, that excuse doesn't fly. When Dad is trying to drive you to Disneyland and your annoying brother starts making faces at you as he's previously been told not to, you should calmly ask him to stop, and then, if that doesn't work, calmly notify your parents of the problem. Making faces at him or shouting at him has never been a good way to get him to stop, and it makes you just as guilty of that as he.

Riot doesn't care who started it. Someone else's misbehavior does not justify your own.

From Riot's support knowledgebase:

  • Simply speaking, retaliation is not an acceptable or justifiable behavior. An argument between two players can easily create a negative experience for the rest of the players in the game with you. Regardless of the other player’s actions, this does not justify your own behavior. You alone are responsible for your actions within the game.If you encounter a toxic player like this, the best option is to simply report their behavior and move on.
  • Reports are a vital piece to the puzzle. If you are not sure of what sort of behavior is reportable take a look at the Reporting a Player FAQ

If you misbehave but a teammate or opponent does or says something even worse, you should definitely report them after the match, just as someone reported you for your own misbehavior. Yes, that's certainly possible. Reports are not a limited resource. Any time someone believes that another player violated LoL's behavioral standards, they can report that player. Punishments are similarly not limited: if more than one player in a game merits a punishment, they can both get a punishment. This can happen even if the players in question were antagonizing each other. The IFS doesn't need to weigh the severity of all reported players' actions and then "award" the "winner" with a punishment; it's not a contest.

Think of it like dealing with a noisy person in a library: ask them to keep it down, and then notify library staff and move to another area if that doesn't work. If you get into a shouting match with them, you're just as likely to be removed, even if you weren't shouting quite as loudly as they were. The goal is a quiet library.

The only chat messages included in your chat log are your own for a single, extremely good reason: they are the only ones taken into account for your punishment, because they're the only ones in your control. The things other players said and did in your match might produce in you an impulse to do certain things that may include breaking LoL's rules, but your behavior is your own, and you are responsible for it. If you really think about it, this is a good thing. If a toxic player's goading could exempt you from punishment for your flaming them, calling for reports, etc., then it would logically go the other way as well, resulting in punishments for players who didn't necessarily break any rules but weren't quite as friendly and positive as their teammates. Can you imagine a world where "didn't participate in the dance party and ignored all of our jokes" was a valid report that could get someone suspended for two weeks? We don't want that situation anymore than we want "called our support a braindead waste of space" to be considered an invalid report just because, say, the support was telling their team to harm themselves while they merrily ran it down mid.

Your opinion of the rules is of zero relevance. When a cop stops you for going 40 in a 25 zone, you can claim "I think the limit should be 45 here" all you want. You're still getting a ticket. If a librarian asks you to keep your voice down while you use the facilities, shouting that libraries should be loud will simply get you escorted out. If you go to a friend's house who insists that you remove your shoes while you're in their home, "that's a stupid rule and I do what I want" will lose you a friend. If you are using someone else's services, facilities, equipment, etc., you abide by their rules or you deal with the consequences. If you think the rules should change, that is a completely different conversation (and I wouldn't give a plugged nickel for your chances at convincing Riot to change their rules to allow behavior like yours).

From Riot's support knowledgebase:

We work with the overall community and within our own company guidelines to identify what disruptive behavior is and what the consequences for those behaviors should be. We understand that it can be difficult to know where the line is, which is why we provide chat logs and we have a few tiers in the ban process in order to allow for you to learn and grow.

There is nothing in Riot's behavioral rules that excuses toxic chat as long as it's factual. It's technically possible for someone to literally be matched with the worst player on the planet, but there's no reason to spend the match calling them the worst player on the planet. It won't make them better at LoL, it won't make them feel better, and it won't help you win the match. All it will do is make them feel worse, annoy your team, and get you punished for breaking the rules, "facts" or not. It's technically true that 2+2=4, but if you announce that fact to your team every four seconds, that's spam and it will annoy them until they mute you, followed by a report and a punishment. It's a true fact, but spamming it is still punishable. Announcing a struggling teammate's score every time they die might be a recitation of fact, but all that does is harass the teammate by calling attention to their poor performance. It won't improve their performance; it might actually exacerbate the problem by tilting them. Scores are factual, but that doesn't make it okay to harass someone.

You weren't punished for misbehaving in one game. You were punished for misbehaving in one more game, in a consistent pattern of negative behavior that breaks the game's rules. Additionally, the reform card doesn't always show all the logs that led to your punishment: it randomly selects up to several logs. You might see three logs, but you also might see as few as one, even for players whose punishment stems not from a small number of egregious infractions but rather from dozens of instances of mild toxicity. The purpose of the reform card is to tell you how to reform, so it shows you an example of the behavior that prompted your punishment and explains that such behavior is inappropriate and should be avoided if you want to maintain an account in good standing.

Usually, one transgression by itself wouldn't be enough to bring such a punishment to an otherwise clean account, but the IFS works on an escalating punishment system. Breaking a minor rule, like engaging the team in useless arguments, has a minor punishment: a chat restriction. Breaking that same rule over and over again, however, doesn't prompt an endless series of chat restrictions. The severity of the punishment ramps up over time, because the goal is to eliminate the punished player's willingness to break the game's rules. If two chat restrictions don't stop the useless arguments, the system will increase the punishment to a 14-day suspension and deliver a very clear message that the continued rule-breaking is becoming a serious issue and any further instances will result in a permaban. Again, the point is to put a stop to this misbehavior. If a player is more interested in repeatedly breaking the rules than in maintaining access to their account, they'll lose access to their account.

Of course, it's possible to break major rules, like cheating, threatening people, or using chat for hate speech, and skip punishment tiers so that a clean account ends up with a 14-day suspension or even a permaban.

From Riot's support knowledgebase:

PUNISHMENTS GENERALLY FOLLOW A BASIC ESCALATION PATH:

  • First Offense: 10 Game Chat Restriction
  • Second Offense: 25 Game Chat Restriction
  • Third Offense: Two Week Suspension
  • Fourth Offense: Permanent Suspension

However, it is possible to skip to a Two Week or Permanent suspension based on the severity of the behavior in the game. Excessive negative behavior can result in a Two-Week or Permanent suspension at any time without having a chat restriction on the account.

GatekeeperTDS8/25/2019, 5:17:06 AM3 votes

1mn0tu420: this Kayle just makes me mad cuz he the player that worries about telling others what to do and shit 1mn0tu420: start pinging me in the beginning excessively and shit 1mn0tu420: and yet my tower almost half down 1mn0tu420: hate idiots like that

Here you are going on and on about shit that the rest of your team doesn't need to hear about. Just mute the person and play the game. You got punished because you're derailing the game for the rest of the people that just want to play and not hear two people argue with each other.

KFCeytron8/25/2019, 4:16:31 AM2 votes

From Riot's support knowledgebase:

Do not threaten or repeatedly tell a player you will report them. Doing so can encourage players who are already negative to continue their behavior. Whether they know they are being reported or not has no bearing to whether the system will act on them. But most importantly, repeatedly threatening or arguing with a negative player can end up derailing the game for everyone else and then open yourself up to reports and possible disciplinary action as well. Avoid negative thoughts and useless chatting with poor performing teammates! Focus on victory by muting the offending player and then reporting them at the end of the game.

Do not ask other players in the match to report the offending player. It only takes one report for our systems to review a game. Additional reports will not do anything for the offending player; however as mentioned above, it could open yourself up to a report of your own; especially if you are derailing the match by constantly demanding reports of other players.

The first thing you said in game was that you were muting someone. Muting someone would be fine, but 1) there's no point in announcing this fact, and 2) from the rest of your chat it looks like you didn't actually mute them. You then spent the entire game insulting and harassing your team. You have a month-long gap in your match history, and I'm guessing that was partly due to a 14-day suspension that clearly warned you that any more misbehavior would result in a permaban. Within a couple weeks of coming back you started calling people names, announcing reports, and so on, so there goes your account.

Smurfmo6668/25/2019, 3:28:26 AM1 votes

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