Is it so hard to understand that you cannot win every single game...

Seijurou Akashi·3/11/2019, 5:21:35 AM·4 votes·4,160 views

Why some people never vote yes in the surrender vote, it is just stupid to continue playing where you are behind like 50K Gold, What's gonna change If you stall for 10-15 more minutes, what these people gain? Nothing, Just wasting time, time that they can just go another but instead they prefer to continue feeding their assses off... Before attacking me and telling me how you were behind and won game, I'm not talking about close games, there are times where you clearly cannot win and you do not want to acknowledge that, even If you stall it to 45th minute by that time you probably will have only Nexus while enemy turrets would probably be taken only 2-3 what's the point ? Answer there is no point in doing so yet people do this and trap others in their games, sorry but It's clear as day when the adc is 2/14 with 2 cs per 4 minutes and support lux that bought the support item but doesn't know that It can ward...

21 Comments

Inkling Commando3/11/2019, 11:22:31 AM7 votes

i can take your title and throw it right back at you. just cause you can't win the game doesn't mean you can cry and surrender. you wanted to play the game so fucking play. if you cannot commit to a full game, win or lose, then don't play the fucking game. who fucking cares if enemy jg is fed to kingdom come and back? who cares if they are ahead in towers or kills? who cares if there is a troll in the game? league is just a game. you don't ff in monopoly (which can get competitive. believe me), you don't ff in any sport games (league counts as a sport cause they have esports and Worlds.) so what makes you think you can ff in league? if you cannot accept losing properly instead of crying at the first sign of a bad game then don't play league. period.

DuskDaUmbreon3/11/2019, 5:27:21 AM5 votes

They don't vote yes because the game either is nowhere near as over as you think it is, and because there's always the chance the enemy team will throw the game.

GatekeeperTDS3/11/2019, 11:07:37 AM5 votes

Game isn't over until a Nexus explodes.

Once both teams have full builds, as another poster said, strength is capped and anyone can win. Just as you have the right to vote Yes to surrender, others have the right to vote No.

Silent Gravity3/11/2019, 6:06:53 AM3 votes

If your team can pull the game out for 15 more minutes from when you wanted to give up, then you had a chance of winning at the point you gave up.

If you're down 50k gold, and don't lose in the next 1 minute 15 seconds, then you are going to win the game. Your opponents are item capped, and your team needs to win a fight to prevent a brute force push down midlane (or your opponents don't understand how to end a game, so you'll win by default eventually). If you can do that, then the next fight your team has more gold, and your opponents are still exactly where they were. The fight will be easier.

AccursedDream3/11/2019, 5:58:11 AM3 votes

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Why some people never vote yes in the surrender vote, it is just stupid to continue playing where you are behind like 50K Gold, What's gonna change If you stall for 10-15 more minutes, what these people gain? Nothing, Just wasting time, time that they can just go another but instead they prefer to continue feeding their assses off... Before attacking me and telling me how you were behind and won game, I'm not talking about close games, there are times where you clearly cannot win and you do not want to acknowledge that, even If you stall it to 45th minute by that time you probably will have only Nexus while enemy turrets would probably be taken only 2-3 what's the point ? Answer there is no point in doing so yet people do this and trap others in their games, sorry but It's clear as day when the adc is 2/14 with 2 cs per 4 minutes and support lux that bought the support item but doesn't know that It can ward...

Yes you can't win every game, might be because of skill difference, one comp is better than the other, or you're just off your game for that one. There are many different reasons and not everything is winnable, but do you know what? Surrendering is just putting the nail in that coffin. Even if you might have won later on, you throw away any chance at it by surrendering it.

You would be surprised by how often people can come back to win a game where you lose everything while the enemy still has a lot of turrets up. People throw games in any elo, some comps have bad early game yet can accel later on thanks to their late game prowess while the enemy team was only good for early-mid games. What I have always hated was when we are doing decently well, behind and having a hard time with fights, but people easily giving up which ruins any chance we might have had and FFs.

There are many advantages of fighting out a game 1) it gives you practice for fighting a game where you are hard pressed. If you just give up and try to surrender every single game you don't think you can win then why play at all? The whole point of this kind of game is competitiveness and struggling as much as you can. To enjoy that process. Have you ever fought what you thought to be a lost cause game where you team is feeding, your inhib towers all gone and the enemy with all their tier one towers up? Have you ever struggled until the 60+ minute mark constantly defending and finally finishing your build, slowly winning more team fights and taking out their tower one at a time until eventually you win the game? That kind of feeling is better than just simply steam rolling a game. 2) You never know what will happen until the end 3) You learn from these kind of games on what you could improve and what could be done next time. Maybe you are on the back foot in lane with the same champion, but you get to know how to deal with that situation thanks to your other experiences.

All impatient think the same (this is just a waste of my time, what is the point when I can just play another?). Even if you go into another game, you're going into that game with a terrible mind set and most definitely tilted to a certain extent.

Saezio3/11/2019, 2:16:10 PM2 votes

Show one game where you was behind 50k gold... Do you even know how much 50k gold is?

Also, I like playing lost games. You still have fun losing and it's more chill. If you only have fun when you win, it means you will feel 50% of your time spent in league as wasted time, and I pity you for that.

Fate Decides3/11/2019, 9:47:08 PM2 votes

Care to explain my 45 minute game where we ALL fed? No turrets No inhibitors And we had a bad Comp.

Suddenly 3 of them die and the entire game does a 180 and we win.

Surrendering at 15 should only be considered if someone is AFK. Even then I've won with 4 before.

Stop being a brat, don't type, take the game commitment of 30-60 minutes. Focus on what you can control and stop crying on forums.

50k of Gold behind? Stop talking out your arse.

Harrowïng3/11/2019, 5:41:57 AM2 votes

I've seen many games thrown by teams that were ahead. The game is never over until that nexus explodes. Now I'm only a silver ranked player so I already know you think my opinion is trash, but games that have been instantly surrendered in are normally by teams behind like 100g. You can easily play out of the enemy team scoring a first blood.

Telephone Booth3/15/2019, 9:39:32 PM1 votes

I think this belongs in the RANT section lol.

Stars Shaper3/11/2019, 11:11:25 AM1 votes

Yeah but it gets tiring when you are suffering struggling from keeping your lane on par or even at your advantage and then see your botlane going 0/10 in 5 minutes, tower down in 6 and 0 dragon/herald control from your jungler. For 3 games in a row.

Le Hank3/15/2019, 10:56:55 PM1 votes

Never

Surrender

NMG Serina3/13/2019, 10:56:31 AM1 votes

Never surrender. Let them fight for the win until the end. Throws happen all the time. Lost way to many games to people giving up before 5 minutes after a failed invade or gank, when it could easily have been turned without the troll giving up.

Krissi21973/13/2019, 12:02:06 PM1 votes

I have that mindset sometimes where I want to just "go next" but I've literally won games where they took all our turrets, including the nexus ones, had Baron/Elder, etc, and still somehow threw hard enough for us to just run it down and end the game ourselves to secure the win.

I get mad when people don't FF but then in that same game where I called an FF vote, we won.

Unless there's an AFK on my team or someone FFs at 15 and 4/5 people already said yes, I don't FF. I don't see the point in continuing a game with an AFK for obvious reasons, and if the majority of my team wants to FF it means they've already given up and it'll just make them mad if the game doesn't end and I'd rather not waste time on teammates who give up at minute 15.

But yeah... Games can be turned around so quick, especially in lower elos when players have NO clue how to use their leads effectively.