Unpopular Opinion: We Need More Crackdown on Int. Feeders and Trolls

P3rspective·6/28/2018, 6:15:25 PM·20 votes·8,918 views

We need less time spent on punishing toxic chat, and more spent on people that purposefully sabotage games. You would think that this would be an obvious, but clearly not.

Seems to be it's a much worse crime to say bad shit, rather than doing bad shit.

And, if most people already mute those that are toxic, would this not make sense?

Please Riot, can we at least get a confirmation on something being done better to find and punish intentional feeders and people that purposefully sabotage games?

56 Comments

ModThe Djinn6/28/2018, 6:19:41 PM16 votes

We Need More Crackdown on Int. Feeders and Troll

This is a very popular opinion, and one that Riot is working on. The system has actually been improving, but we mostly notice it when it fails.

We need less time spent on punishing toxic chat...

This is the less popular opinion, because that stuff also ruins games, just in a different way. It's also worth noting than the teams responsible for each are likely separate branches under the greater Player Behavior team, so work on one doesn't take away from work on the other.

koshkyra6/29/2018, 1:52:47 AM3 votes

Is this really an unpopular opinion

Nalisai6/28/2018, 7:44:40 PM2 votes

You also have to remember that what YOU think is INTing or trolling, might just be a bad player trying to learn the game, or just a bad player.

For example, I'm a decent player, maybe low silver-high bronze (or is that below decent?). My issue is I mis-position myself or overstay, get too aggressive etc. I die a lot. I get called a feeder a lot. Thing is, it isn't on purpose. I'm just playing the game. I've had games where I myself said I needed to stop feeding, or running into lane and dying, whatever. It's not being done to purposely ruin the game, it's being done because I get excited, or want revenge, or whatever and don't really think about it as cautiously as I should.

Does this ruin the game for others? To a point. It definitely drags the team done when it happens. So how to you propose to fix it so this doesn't happen? League already has a ranking system - you play better, you get ranked higher, you get away from people who just aren't as good. < -- This is why I think MMR should be public knowledge, or go hand in hand with your rank. Sorry, but if you want to stop having better games and better teammates, you are going to have to play ranked to get where you like the competition level. Then feel free to stop and enjoy normals, ARAMs, and TT.

Side note - I'm also nearly 40 and have physical issues. I use the game to work on those problems, and it really helps. NO I don't play a lot of ranked (only when I'm feeling up to it, as I don't want to ruin anyone's day).

[galio-happy]

KazaJhodo6/29/2018, 5:03:15 PM1 votes

Eyyyyyy, same shit different day boys.

Fix the fucking ladder. My favorite game is absolute ass lately.

Balance team and matchmaking fucking up the works lately. Where'd all the fun go? COME BACK FUN, COME BACK.

Ch1efBeefQueef6/28/2018, 8:10:00 PM1 votes

I have a proposal, not sure if this has been considered and decided that it isn't applicable but i figured i might as well put in my two cents.

For people who sabotage games there could be a system in place that lets the player base pass the judgement. Perhaps there can be a team similar to the old tribunal or Overwatch from CS:GO where you can apply to join after filling out a number of prerequisites for the position.

After a player has been reported for sabotage enough times, their games in question get reviewed and watched by people on the "tribunal" and if enough people think that it was sabotage, punishment can be issued.

Perhaps the punishment can be very soft at first, to offer a safety net for people who may have fell through the punishment without sabotaging games intentionally, and for repeat offenders, the punishment becomes much more severe.

I know the system wouldn't be perfect, but i do believe it would go a long way to prevent people who carry this type of an attitude into games and selfishly ruin them because they cannot be bothered to play the whole thing.

As for specific prerequisites or punishments, i have my ideas, but ultimately i do believe there is a good way to vet certain candidates for a "tribunal".

And lastly, perhaps there can be some unique incentive system for those who participate in "tribunal" activities for a length of time and prove to be reliable assets. And for those people who join the "tribunal" and attempt to cast down punishment without close examination can be singled out and punished if they have a track record of doing so. Example: always voting to punish, but others who watch the replays disagree, this happens too often and you will get a warning. If it keeps happening you are removed from the "tribunal" and punished.

Just some food for thought.

MadNoff6/28/2018, 6:18:29 PM1 votes

Whatever happened to the tribunal? That thing just disappeared.

La Belle Sauvage6/28/2018, 11:30:09 PM1 votes

I say keep or increase the pressure on toxic chat. And increase the pressure on ints, feeders, trolls, AND afk and dodgers. Make the peantly so harsh that people stop going afk or dodging.