Is toxicity perma ban worthy? What constitutes toxicity?

N3u7r1n0·1/6/2019, 6:15:43 AM·8 votes·4,929 views

I talk trash in games. I don't get hateful or racist or anything, but I will call out garbage play and foolish behavior. Is this reason to ban me from the game? What do you do when a teammate intentionally takes action to hurt the team? Ignore it and accept the loss? How is that beneficial to the community? Shouldnt people that intentionally hurt their teams chances of winning be addresseed?

I just lost an account with every champ and hundreds of skins that was close to 10 years old without warning for mild profanity, and to me it doesn't make sense. Why ban people for profanity when there are filters on by default? Is the goal of ranked play in this game to have a safe space for little kids? That's not how the game is marketed from my perspective.

Whats your thoughts?

96 Comments

EvilDustMan1/6/2019, 2:35:39 PM8 votes

Do you think "calling out garbage play" helps your team?

Silent Gravity1/6/2019, 6:42:34 AM7 votes

No one fucking cares about swearing. At all. Ever.

But, if you're annoying, you will be asked to leave. Just like every other place in existence.

What do you do when a teammate intentionally takes action to hurt the team? Ignore it... ?

Fuck yeah, ignore it. Trolls always troll to get a reaction. Why the hell would you go out of your way to encourage them? Did you think that yelling at them was hurtful, or something?

Responding to trolls hurts the community. Don't feed the trolls.

Shouldnt people that intentionally hurt their teams chances of winning be addresseed?

Yes, it should be addressed. That is what the report button is for. Bitching in chat does nothing to help getting those accounts banned. Hit the report button.

Why ban people for profanity when there are filters on by default? Is the goal of ranked play in this game to have a safe space for little kids?

Riot doesn't care about profanity. Really. It has no bearing on how the IFS scores chat. It has the same rules as any bar. Don't annoy the other patrons. We're all here to relax and have fun.

Unless children are accepted in the bars in your area, I don't think that these rules are focusing on children.

R107 Games1/6/2019, 6:25:36 AM4 votes

personally, i think some talk trash and flame is fine.

just dont get too excessive about it that it may distract from the game.

The Highest Noon1/6/2019, 5:47:48 PM3 votes

It's a matter of debate vs a matter of control. Riot does not want "negative" behavior in their game, even though "negative' behavior is the basis of any competition out there. That means no calling out bad plays. No talking trash. No rhetoric that can be seen as "negative". If what you're saying doesn't make someone feel like you have feelings for them, it isn't allowed.

Now, personally I think that's fucking stupid. It's a competition--a competition that requires a lot of time with little control of your own. People are going to take it seriously. Trash talking should be allowed. Calling out bad plays should be allowed. It's 2019. Women call eachother bitches on the regular. Men call eachother trash on the regular. People insult eachother while playing sports on the regular. People call out mistakes while playing team sports on the regular. People talk trash while playing competitive video games on the regular. But guess what? Everyone is still fine at the end of any of that. Riot is trying to make this game some kinda promise land for sissy fufu positivity but that's doing more harm than good. It ends up with daily threads of people saying "This guy was running down mid yet I get banned for calling it out".

Instead of focusing on punishing the saltiness, the trash-talking, the teamwork involved with pointing out why something failed or how someone made a mistake that--in my experience--they usually don't understand is a mistake, Riot should focus on punishing the spite, the hate, the sexism, the racism, the senseless victimization, the "kill yourself"s, the "God you suck"s, the stupidity that doesn't in any way shape nor form actually involve playing the game.

I hate that I'm forced to endure every single blatantly terrible play from my teammates. Can't tell someone to stop trying to 1v1 a fed Riven when they're 0-7. Can't ask someone to gank when I'm only slightly behind in lane. I'm afraid to even ask my support to ward river because it'll probably get me banned for that, too. This shit is stupid. [sg-janna]

Power Cosmic1/6/2019, 5:26:16 PM3 votes

There should be a very short leash on those who spew personal attacks.

Projectile Vomit1/6/2019, 6:33:25 AM2 votes

Hmm... what does the reform card tell you when you log in?

EDIT: Nvm just saw the other thread you made

Laura ß1/6/2019, 6:59:50 AM1 votes

What really makes me want to uninstall this game are people who just type slang and racist words all damn game and on top of that they are playing like complete garbage cans feeding and never cooperating in the game and just drag you into a loss, its very tilting to have this kind of players and they all should be banned on sight.

You can mute them but you can still easily tell they are typing non stop just by looking at their afk champion every 10 seconds.