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0-3 Minute 8 "Let's FF"

Joschghurt·8/9/2018, 12:11:54 PM·45 votes·12,850 views

I can't believe how popular it is for one or two people out of my team to just give up after a couple kills of the enemy team, I've lost so many games over negative attitude it's ridiculous. Everytime a lane does bad even if it is just one lane and the others are winning you have to either calm them down from their tilt or just deal with the fact that someone on your team isn't really trying to win anymore. It's crazy how bad the attitude of league players has gotten and how it affects the game. Yes the meta is snowbally and tends to have shorter games than back in the old days but it amazes me how people call it "saving time" when it's legit just giving up a game that wasn't even decided yet and then is lost by someone constantly flaming, not seriously trying to win or just straight up rage quit. I've had to report so many people in my past games. People don't believe in comebacks and it's nowhere to be seen anymore not because it's not possible, it's the fact that always at least one player of your team just gives up so fast that your team doens't even have a chance to comeback anymore. Edit: This game PREFECTLY shows what negative attitude does to a game https://matchhistory.euw.leagueoflegends.com/en/#match-details/EUW1/3734509664/209113973?tab=overview our Darius went 0-2 or 0-3 in lane and then stopped playing at min 5 "cuz it was lost" the second darius lost our bot got a few kills and our graves was doing good in jungle, we even ended up getting more kills than the enemies and the game lasted 4v5 for 26:15 and then the enemies took baron and we couldnt' def anymore.

55 Comments

UnoGetGoldELO8/9/2018, 6:57:39 PM11 votes

This is what i call "emotional babysitting" that has won me games before that seemed over but man it is stressful and shouldn´t be part of any videogame that isn´t an MMO in a hard raid encounter where someone is keep doing the same mistake and wants to call it a night.

See in league you´ve to remind yourself that you´re playing basically with toddlers , you´ve to attend to their lanes , their needs , their calls , their diapers.

If you do all of those correctly , you will get little to no recognition and no endorphins fired up at the victory screen but feel exhausted instead and wonder why you keep playing this game.

So i ask you this OP , why do you keep playing this game if it makes you sadmad? Take a break like the lot of us and come back refreshed.

Talh8/9/2018, 5:13:41 PM7 votes

I agree. I think Gold/Plat is the worst elo for this negative mindset. The reason for this I think is because Golds and Plats have larger egos and feel they are better than they actually are. So, when they see a few kill lead early they are relating to and/or emulating pros/high elo players that can accurately say the game is over after a minor 0-3 setback as you mentioned. This is because pros/high elo players don't make many mistakes at all. Gold and Plat still make plenty of mistakes, and the game really is never over unless it's a really extreme lead.

It sucks, only way to fix it is to not be that person yourself and also work harder in your bubble of influence on the game to maybe inspire the others on your team. Lead by example, but I do agree this is a big problem and it didn't used to be the case. Blame the heavy emulation "decent" players exhibit of "great" players.

Gary4208/9/2018, 3:15:25 PM4 votes

What champs were the enemies playing? What champs are you playing? Sometimes deciding to open is as easy as looking at what is being played.

If the enemy have hard scaling champs that don't fall off AND they won early game? GG, you lost.

Ηuawei8/10/2018, 1:41:44 PM4 votes

I will say it again. This season it's really worth it to ff at 15 minutes because the game is decided by a 90%.

If by then i judge the game is over i initiate a surrender vote.

The vast majority of times i was right because the game was lost at 30 mins max, but usually around the 22-25 minutes.

Anin7778/10/2018, 9:41:17 AM3 votes

Ofc. This is not bad. It's the current meta. Before we heard ff@20 at the 15 mins mark. But games can be "lost" as early as 6 mins now. Why should I be forced to play in a game I'll most likely end up losing? Why struggle and then lose anyway? Time is important.

AetherArising8/9/2018, 11:34:53 PM3 votes

Over the last 70ish games in silver this has happened about 68 or 69 times. Thats not okay.

Pika Fox8/10/2018, 2:40:34 PM3 votes

And if you dont agree to open or FF youre "holding them hostage" in a game they willingly signed up for.

Firebeard8/10/2018, 6:08:16 PM2 votes

While I don't encourage tilt or trolling, lets be real for a minute here. Unless you are high diamond and trying to get into masters/challenger and go pro or otherwise make a profit from high tier streaming, your rank means absolutely nothing. It isn't worth your time to stress over. As a matter of fact, the amount of stress the average player spends on each ranked game might be killing them. When I have a poor game and I feel like coming back into it will either be impossible or a 30 minute game of avoid the enemy jungler and pray to God that my team lets me catch some of the side waves, I will ask for a surrender. I won't stress over the game, nor will I throw if they don't want to, but if my game is not enjoyable or is otherwise a waste of time, I see nothing wrong with offering up a surrender vote. I won't stress over a probably lost match and shorten my lifespan so that 4 strangers might feel better about some imaginary video game points that means they are slightly less bad than the millions of other players in their exact same position. It just isn't worth it. Call it a negative attitude of you want, I'm just being real.

Tuition Fee8/9/2018, 9:18:21 PM2 votes

I recently had a really terrible game. Enemy had three times our kills. Every lane lost, useless jungler flamed the fuck out of everyone despite afk farming while the Nocturne was everywhere. I was extremely tilted, and I guess the sentiment spread to mid as well. Enemy had a five turret advantage over us, and we had no drakes. It was a ff@15 game, as Kayn kept saying, but top and ADC didn't want to ff. Those two were extremely positive, offered tips (In a nice way, not like "omg stop feeding idiot") and basically told the idiot Kayn to shut his trap. Thanks to them, our team stopped tilting and we ended up winning. Positivity>negativity.

Add928/10/2018, 6:55:43 AM2 votes

I main jungle , when before minute 10 my solos died 1v1 3 times each, I'm not going to try and just propose to FF .

Even if the game is winnable with hard effort and overbabysitting my team every step of the way I'd rather go next and get a fresh team than spend 40 minutes with these 2 specific players.

That's just me though .

Oakleaf Ranger8/10/2018, 3:16:12 PM2 votes

Depends on the winning/losing lanes.

I still remember a game where every lane on my team smashed but bot lane.

But instead of it being a landside victory we had to constantly send at least 4 bot while jg or top would 1v2/3 else where on the map.

It only took their bot lane winning to prevent a land side by a team who SMASHED every other part of the map and bring the game into a 50/50. If bot lane wins and you don't win somewhere else let alone lose another lane then that game is very likely already decided.

Dorans Pants8/11/2018, 2:31:03 AM1 votes

doesn´t really matter what the score is. Sometimes people get counterpicked, sometimes they play too greedy, sometimes they get camped. But if your teammates simply suck and you got a clear picture of just how much they suck then you don´t have to bother trying to win that game.

  • if your amumu just sits in his jgl and never ganks or initiates team fights not even under the best possible conditions, you might as well surrender
  • if your ryze goes 0/5 and you called it before the game even started, you might as well surrender
  • if your adc picks ezreal, you might as well surrender
  • and ofc, if you have an actual troll in your game you can´t surrender because that fucker will vote "no" every single time

champions and teamcomps can make combacks happen, but a useless player will stay useless throughout the entire game.

Super Galaxy8/11/2018, 9:40:00 AM1 votes

People in lower divisions tend to see an enemy team steamrolling early game as a sign that their teammates either don't care or aren't willing to try, getting to the point that they make rash mistakes that cost them their life.

Best Vi Earth8/10/2018, 1:09:15 AM1 votes

im always down for a good FF/ open mid

SaberRattler8/9/2018, 11:40:19 PM1 votes

The most apt video for this.

https://youtu.be/HxJyxV7D_Z4?t=51m31s

BeastAlmighty8/9/2018, 11:36:55 PM1 votes

This is actually such a Plat/ High Gold issue from my experience, when i play with my bronze/silver friends the players generally keep playing to win even when 0/5. playing with D5's this is even worse, it's always either the 0/3 top spamming surrenders (even if we're winning) or the 3/0 mid refusing to surrender despite our team being 4-21 or something.

DrCyanide8/10/2018, 12:54:04 PM1 votes

B-b-but what about muh 1-30 kills at 15 minutes games?!?!? Make it easier for me to give up on games Rito! /s

Seriously, this is what happens far more often. People don't want to play League of Legends, they want to play Surrender Vote Simulator.

XXXerado8/13/2018, 9:51:40 PM1 votes

If someone's doing badly and wants to FF, that's understandable. They're having a bad game and don't feel like playing. I can see that. I think you have to understand that usually (probably about GOLD 1 and above) the game's decided pretty early. Let's say someone's winning or going even and everyone else is doing poorly or someone on the enemy team is fed out of their mind... By using A>B logic we can assume that the same player is going to probably keep playing poorly, as they've demonstrated through their play thus far. Plus, after a certain rank threshold, the enemy team is going to be coordinated enough to push their win. Hard. Yes, comebacks can happen sometimes, but most people really don't want to put in the efforts just to lose 15 or 20 minutes later. It's so much more demoralizing to be forced to play an already lost game. The issue is where people start calling it lost. 4-5? Possibly winnable. 2-12? Please hit surrender at 15 no one's having fun, lol.