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Why, riot should bring back tribunal.

TheBloodLordVlad··4 votes·2,777 views

I havent been playing since season 1, but, I did happen to play with the tribunal system for a whole year and, lets be honest, ask hashinshin, ask shaclone, ask UberDanger, ask dunkey. I gaurantee you any single one of those people would have thousands and thousands of reasons why its better, im going to point out something, that i have experienced first hand, and encourage you to experience first hand, hell, i even encourage the devs to do this. Make a new account, level it, dont turn off all chat, dont mute people. And tell me, that tribunal wasnt better compared to this. Tribunal basically never handed out perma bans, Shaclone has said at one point he got 5000 chat restriction games, which i would prefer over a peramban, because the only thing that will stop me from being toxic, is chat restrictions, I cant just not reply to someone who calls me a dog and tells me im so horrible and tells me to end myself or something, like you expect me to not reply to someone like that and just, "mute them" Yes let me get on my knees and let them feel they have the power to make me a pussy and let them think they have the power to force people to think of him as better than them, and you guys say, well oh he'll get banned! Well, Its a FREE TO PLAY GAME, it takes, 21 hours with win xp boosts and day xp boosts, to get to level 30, and they will be right back being toxic, That or they just spend 13$ on a new level 30 account that thousands, 10s of thousands even, people are selling online! and your going to tell me that perma banning people is going to make them not toxic? all its going to do, is make me, never spend rp on your company again, and make me even more angry with the game itself, my mental is so horrible, because if im toxic, for 15 games, out of over, 3000. And no i am not kidding, i was toxic on 3 different accounts 15 games, which is 1.5% Of games where i was toxic, and got 3 permanently banned accounts. For tilting and losing my mind on people in a VIDEO GAME 1.5% of the time. Id say i have 10 accounts permanently banned, over around 2000+ hours. And this is supposed to make the game less toxic? Hey your toxic in a tiny amount of games, level a new account, think of what youve done! well, if im leveling a new account, if its not level 30, and ive spent no money on it, why would i care about it? Tribunal made people less toxic, because chat restrictions ACTUALLY HELP, when im chat restricted i find that im 100000x less toxic, i cant type that much, so im forced to focus on the game and only use my chats on crucial information. Stop handing out perma bans for people who are toxic in a very small amount of games, your game is unbalanced, your game is the most tilting thing in the world. Of course people are going to be toxic, riot your balance teams mentality is "If the games balanced it wont be fun" What the fuck is fun about fiora being one of the strongest top laners getting a 40% attack speed buff!??!?! I would actually enjoy the game, if the better player would win, i understand how theirs matchups and things, but stop making champions where there is literally no out play potential against them, Garen, if you rework him the way you are planning too, Building certain items hard counters him, which is a good step in the right direction! but, for low elo, hes going to be broken as hell, and i think you guys really need to find a median. Please, bring back tribunal, stop perma banning people. The results of perma banning shows in low level games. You wonder why your games dying? People who just start playing the game are being told to uninstall and end themselves because of these perma banned people. That, is what perma banning does.

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Jamaree11 votes

On paper, it is indeed the best. It is your fellow peers, not a machine, not a Rioter, no one above you, your fellow players deciding whether or not they want someone like you playing. HOWEVER, as we clearly saw with the massive backlog, when given the chance, this community doesn't actually care about cleaning itself, it just cares about not having it effect them.

TheBloodLordVlad1 votes

Seeing that this got 3 downvotes in 4minutes proves, our community doesnt even care about the new players coming in. Do you guys have no hearts for those of us who are stuck in the loop of meeting toxic players and being told nasty things by them, knowing, if we respond we get punished but cannot bring outselfs to care that our account is banned aslong as those who are toxic to us do not get what they are seeking? Do you not care, that the players coming into the game for the first time, are being greeted by people who sit there calling them complete garbage? And if you say "they can just play bot games" to get actually decent at the game, you dont just play bot games, it is a proven fact, not only are bot games boring, they get rid of the competitive point of the game, so dont try and force new players to play them just to not be flamed, lets all make new accounts, and instead of calling these people out, greet them with cheerful thinking and help them become better players! Let them know that farming is crucial! Make sure to tell them, not to run under tower without minions! We need to clean up our community, stop being blind! Were the most toxic community ever, in the world, league of legends is by far the most toxic game, and even though this sounds sad, Na, is probably not even the worst community for toxicity. I feel other regions are even worse, and that is definitly saying something.

Dreyka Kintaso5 votes

"Seeing that this got 3 downvotes in 4minutes proves, our community doesnt even care about the new players coming in. "

Yea, when you bring up "Shaclone" as a point. You lost me there and I didn't even read further.

TheBloodLordVlad1 votes

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Dreyka Kintaso1 votes

Are you nightblue3? Or Dom? Looking hungry for some drama? Here let me serve you b* lasagna. Stop getting so worked up about a comment from me and life on. :D

Jamaree8 votes

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Seeing that this got 3 downvotes in 4minutes proves, our community doesnt even care about the new players coming in.

I think you more so got downvoted because you are another one of those "It isn't my fault that I'm toxic." kind of people, but sure.

Do you guys have no hearts for those of us who are stuck in the loop of meeting toxic players and being told nasty things by them, knowing, if we respond we get punished but cannot bring outselfs to care that our account is banned aslong as those who are toxic to us do not get what they are seeking?

You clearly don't care, so why should we?

Do you not care, that the players coming into the game for the first time, are being greeted by people who sit there calling them complete garbage?

Not the actual new player experience, new players stick with new players, that said, welcome to the internet, are you new?

And if you say "they can just play bot games" to get actually decent at the game, you dont just play bot games, it is a proven fact, not only are bot games boring, they get rid of the competitive point of the game, so dont try and force new players to play them just to not be flamed, lets all make new accounts, and instead of calling these people out, greet them with cheerful thinking and help them become better players!

I don't think you know or understand how proof and facts work.

We need to clean up our community, stop being blind! Were the most toxic community ever, in the world, league of legends is by far the most toxic game, and even though this sounds sad, Na, is probably not even the worst community for toxicity. I feel other regions are even worse, and that is definitly saying something.

Indeed we do, but people like you who try to scapegoat and act like it is everyone's fault but one's own are just as much of a problem.

TheBloodLordVlad1 votes

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AeroWaffle4 votes

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Ok mr i know everything. Make a new account. Brand new email, everthing, and play some games, you tell me if "new players stick with new players" gaurantee you, you will not be playing with "new players" youll be playing with people, who arnt hardstuck plat like you, Do i think im helping the community? no. I dont. But do i think im one of the worst in the community and deserve to be hated on because YOU think im a sterotype? no. your just a hypocritical league of legends player who is self absorbed and refuses to look at the facts. I have facts. Make a new account, try it out. Try playing normal blind games, then normal draft pick games, and you tell me if what you just said is complete bull or not. I gaurantee you it is.

If someone here creates a new account and starts playing on that new account it wont be as an actual new player. It will be an experienced player on a new account.

Matchmaking tries to match smurfs with/against smurfs. The more you play like a player that has already put tons of hours in the game the less likely you'll ever see an actual new player (unless they are in a pre-made with another smurf).

TheBloodLordVlad1 votes

dude, if i ran it down, going 1/5 making it look like im just a new player, id still play with the same people. They are lying to your face and its so obvious. They match you, with the first 10 people in low level in queue. Its pretty obvious when you play with a level 12 who has went 0/7 in 5 of their past 7 games. Stop being so blind.

AeroWaffle4 votes

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dude, if i ran it down, going 1/5 making it look like im just a new player, id still play with the same people.

But you didn't. Your starting games both against bots and against real people make it clear that you were not a new player. A blind man would be able to see that you were use to the game.

TheBloodLordVlad1 votes

wait how else does someone start the game other than starting, against bots, and real people? I usually play through the tutorial everytime for the xp lol

AeroWaffle4 votes

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wait how else does someone start the game other than starting, against bots, and real people? I usually play through the tutorial everytime for the xp lol

I'm not talking about the act of playing vs bots then humans, I'm talking about your performance in those first games.

farly7851 votes

I actually tried it out on euw on a new acc and after inting many games as if i was new, i still got matched at lvl 15-25 with players overly toxic, most of them being smurfs from gold+. even on an acc where i just did the tutorial in normal speed for new players my first match on my na smurf was instantly against 3 smurf friends that were all high masters or d1

Jamaree7 votes

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Ok mr i know everything. Make a new account. Brand new email, everthing, and play some games, you tell me if "new players stick with new players" gaurantee you, you will not be playing with "new players" youll be playing with people,

Duh, I will be playing with the smurfs, the toxic smurfs who got banned and go right back into the system and continue to be toxic, what do you think in the would could happen to change that?

who arnt hardstuck plat like you.

Not really helping your case by throwing out insults.

Do i think im helping the community? no. I dont. But do i think im one of the worst in the community and deserve to be hated on because YOU think im a sterotype?

You have 10 permabanned accounts and immediately insulted me when I didn't agree with you. Again, you REALLY aren't helping your case here that you AREN'T part of the problem.

your just a hypocritical league of legends player who is self absorbed and refuses to look at the facts. I have facts.

What facts, you have only provided conjecture.

Make a new account, try it out. Try playing normal blind games, then normal draft pick games, and you tell me if what you just said is complete bull or not. I gaurantee you it is.

I think you misunderstood me when I said new players, I mean ACTUALLY new, as in people who haven't played the game before, yes, the toxic smurfs who were banned and toxic are going to keep being toxic.

TheBloodLordVlad1 votes

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Jamaree8 votes

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Oh im so sorry for pointing out that youve been platnimum for 4 seasons, its banter, stop being a 12 year old and take it as a joke, people like me are not the problem. Its people like you. Who cant even handle one banterish comment, who is the problem, your the reason why the communitys toxic. Stop being such a hypocritical passive aggressive toxic dude my guy

You really do not see the problem of what you are saying here huh?

CharDeeMcDenniz2 votes

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Seeing that this got 3 downvotes in 4minutes proves, our community doesnt even care about the new players coming in.

i downvoted for piss-poor formatting

GatekeeperTDS4 votes

Seeing that this got 3 downvotes in 4minutes proves, our community doesnt even care about the new players coming in.

Ah, you're one of them dudes that gets pissed by 3 downvotes out of the few hundred people that look at the post.

If you want the Tribunal back, think again. You are now at the mercy of people (myself included) who were very quick to hit the punish button because we find toxic behavior extremely distasteful. If you think the Tribunal would let you get away with flaming the other person because "he started it," you really need to think again. I, and nearly everyone who participated in the Tribunal, would have been more than happy to punish BOTH of you.

Your best bet for a fair "decision" in your eyes is to let an automated system with no emotion handle your punishments.

Follow the rules.

farly7851 votes

the problem is that the automated system doesnt work, for example: i had a perfect match where i was doing good. i wrote nothing even remotely toxic or so and got told to "stfu and kys" i then quoted the guy in all chat and got basically banned for someone else telling me to kms. I made an appeal, it didnt work since i used the word idiot once in one of my other games (a prior game) and thats how i got a 14 day suspension.

Kei1433 votes

tw&ldr

If you've been punished and thinking the tribunal won't punish you, you are dead wrong. Players still don't tolerate consistent toxicity of many games.

If you think others don't get punished because you aren't seeing punishment notifications, you are dead wrong. You only get a punishment notification if the game your reported someone was the game that got them punished, not when they are filling up their toxicity meter.

If you think the trolls are running rampant and bringing back the tribunal would solve it, You are dead wrong. The tribunal never tackled gameplay problems.

Jennifer4202 votes

they should just bring it back "for fun and insight."

as a new player i used it to learn what the community sees as ok/not ok. the insight was nice to have.

and sometimes chatlogs were really funny... one of the funniest things i read was a warwick saying "thresh why you never throw lantern to me?" and thresh answering: go fetch it like the dog you are

TheBloodLordVlad1 votes

Sadly, a smurf who has made a new account is never greeted by those things. All I ever see when i try leveling a new account is. "Why are you so fucking garbage" "Report mid inting!" Report this, report that, honestly, people that play this game are the most fragile human beings in the world and i dont understand why, i wish i could play the game for fun again. Sometimes when im just bantering around in all chat i am indeed having fun, putting question marks to people who fail flash is hilarious to me, but i get banned for it because its "toxic."

G0blinSlay3r1 votes

Tribunal was hacked by bot accounts.

TheBloodLordVlad1 votes

what? Link whatever your talking about, because if your talking about "botting" league accounts, its done in twisted tree line literally every queue.

G0blinSlay3r1 votes

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what? Link whatever your talking about, because if your talking about "botting" league accounts, its done in twisted tree line literally every queue.

I know. been here 10 years. ask me why tribunal is dead.

TheBloodLordVlad1 votes

That is not tribunal being hacked by bots. That is a script/code that people use to level accounts, and the only person to blame for that is riot, tribunal has nothing to do with that, just because riot cant make anti cheat properly, doesnt mean tribunal wasnt good enough. and doesnt mean that this new legacy system is any better, in fact, i bet more accounts are botted now then there were before bcause riot does nothing to stop them.

G0blinSlay3r1 votes

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That is not tribunal being hacked by bots. That is a script/code that people use to level accounts, and the only person to blame for that is riot, tribunal has nothing to do with that, just because riot cant make anti cheat properly, doesnt mean tribunal wasnt good enough. and doesnt mean that this new legacy system is any better, in fact, i bet more accounts are botted now then there were before bcause riot does nothing to stop them.

Scripting is a old problem. The problem is separating the bots from the noobs. Who do you ban and how can you be sure?

TheBloodLordVlad1 votes

all it takes. Is a riot employee. Taking, 15 minutes out of his day, per account thats reported to be a bot, to watch, 2 games, look at their match history, look at their champions, easy bans are, Locking in the same champion, rotating lanes to bot, top, bot, top, bot, bot, bot. Atleast thats what ive seen in my experience, they usually change lanes, eventually they get stuck bot, and then go top for a bit, rince and repeat. Its very obvious. Look at their summoners spells and their level, Most new players take different things rather than ghost and heal, most bots, dont change it. If riot employees actually took time out of their day it would be very very easy, + ip ban the accounts that are botted to introduce a 0 tolerance policy to 3rd part programs. aka id ban them.

G0blinSlay3r1 votes

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all it takes. Is a riot employee. Taking, 15 minutes out of his day, per account thats reported to be a bot, to watch, 2 games, look at their match history, look at their champions, easy bans are, Locking in the same champion, rotating lanes to bot, top, bot, top, bot, bot, bot. Atleast thats what ive seen in my experience, they usually change lanes, eventually they get stuck bot, and then go top for a bit, rince and repeat. Its very obvious. Look at their summoners spells and their level, Most new players take different things rather than ghost and heal, most bots, dont change it. If riot employees actually took time out of their day it would be very very easy, + ip ban the accounts that are botted to introduce a 0 tolerance policy to 3rd part programs. aka id ban them.

Too many users. take 15 min and divide that with a work day. That is less than the amount of players we have. Then you get a idea of how many rioters you need. puss a rioter may need to watch way more than 15 min or do more than 15 mins of research to find the named offence and verify it's a repeat problem constantly. Riot is as scared of banning as we are scared of getting banned.

TheBloodLordVlad1 votes

What you think every single bot is going to be on a different ip? you have no idea what your talking about, if im honest. You are bringing up theoretical things, but honestly, do you think its not just a massive bot farm? guarantee its just like runescape, free to play game, one person making a ton of money off of selling boted level 30 accounts. Pretty obvious. Stop talking about things you have no idea about my dude

G0blinSlay3r1 votes

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What you think every single bot is going to be on a different ip? you have no idea what your talking about, if im honest. You are bringing up theoretical things, but honestly, do you think its not just a massive bot farm? guarantee its just like runescape, free to play game, one person making a ton of money off of selling boted level 30 accounts. Pretty obvious. Stop talking about things you have no idea about my dude

Ever heard of IP ghosting? in some cases riot needs to ban a full range if ip's and that can end up being damn messy. Because it may be a public ip used by many users. We all know how botted accounts work. You talking about tribunal. i don't see what your going on about. this is all common knowledge to everyone. Tribunal won't return as it was a screw up.

TheBloodLordVlad1 votes

you still havent explained to me how it was a screw up, all i remember is you saying it was botted, then when i asked for a link to something proving that you kept going on the level bot thing. You have no idea what your talking about, so get off my thread lol.

G0blinSlay3r1 votes

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you still havent explained to me how it was a screw up, all i remember is you saying it was botted, then when i asked for a link to something proving that you kept going on the level bot thing. You have no idea what your talking about, so get off my thread lol.

Because people were lazy and just wanted to get the tribunal over with so they just pressed ban ban ban.. And bot were being used to abuse this further. it was slow and inaccurate.

farly7851 votes

i think they should make tribunal basically like overwatch in csgo, mid elo or higher players CAN watch the game fully with chat etc and then decide on the report options if they did indeed fulfill the parts needed to get banned or restricted. personally, i think riot should give certain points only chat restricting warnings and some others ban times

Tailypo4 votes

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all it takes. Is a riot employee. Taking, 15 minutes out of his day, per account thats reported to be a bot, to watch, 2 games, look at their match history, look at their champions, easy bans are, Locking in the same champion, rotating lanes to bot, top, bot, top, bot, bot, bot. Atleast thats what ive seen in my experience, they usually change lanes, eventually they get stuck bot, and then go top for a bit, rince and repeat. Its very obvious. Look at their summoners spells and their level, Most new players take different things rather than ghost and heal, most bots, dont change it. If riot employees actually took time out of their day it would be very very easy, + ip ban the accounts that are botted to introduce a 0 tolerance policy to 3rd part programs. aka id ban them.

15 minutes per account in question? Are you serious? Have you ever worked?

TheBloodLordVlad1 votes

bot games in twisted treeline last around 7 minutes - 10-11 minutes, unless its a game literally full of bots or all real players. Use simple math before spitting out passive aggressive statements.

Sukishoo3 votes

No, it's dead cause the instant feedback system is far better regardless of how people feel as it is instant. They planned on updating the tribunal at one point but it proved to be too much work.

G0blinSlay3r1 votes

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No, it's dead cause the instant feedback system is far better regardless of how people feel as it is instant. They planned on updating the tribunal at one point but it proved to be too much work.

tribunal in euw was not working. there were tons of threads.

TheBloodLordVlad1 votes

Oh yes of course the legacy client instant feedback system is so better! Where you can be banned for arguing in a competitive game, banned for calling someone a pussy in all chat, banned for saying "Baited Idiot" Thats seriously the system all these people downvoting these posts are defending, just because it doesnt effect them they hate anyone else who it effects and its sickening. This community, is probably the least intellegent compared to any other community, atleast other communitys don't hate one people for being mad at a auto mated system handling tickets and bans.

SnyperWulff1 votes

Wasn't the tribunal shut down due to members of it abusing the system? I may be wrong and correct me if I am. But I'm fairly certain I reas somewhere that at one point, tribunal members were given rp points or something, and they began to just give out punishments willy nilly. Again, I could be wrong, but I do at least believe it boiled down to abusing the power and privilege.

AeroWaffle3 votes

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Wasn't the tribunal shut down due to members of it abusing the system? I may be wrong and correct me if I am. But I'm fairly certain I reas somewhere that at one point, tribunal members were given rp points or something, and they began to just give out punishments willy nilly. Again, I could be wrong, but I do at least believe it boiled down to abusing the power and privilege.

Tribunal was shut down for various reasons, the biggest one being how much of a delay it had when assigning punishment compared to when the poor behavior happened. Sometimes there were months between the behavior and the punishment for the behavior.

At no point did it give RP as a reward though. It was always strictly IP rewards.

GayrensTari1 votes

I agree this game is extremely toxic. They can hardly accept different reasonable opinions. They ban me for expressing my deep thoughts over the lores. I'm taric main and taric main and I was forced to quit this game because of the toxic and bais community. Noticed that taric main is already very rare these days. People want to froze this champion somehow.

TheBloodLordVlad1 votes

I gaurantee this was downvoted because you said "This game is extremely toxic" and the community is like, WHAT, NO! WERE NOT TOXIC! AHHH BURN HIMM AT THE STAKE! Downvotes Like guys, the community is so obviously toxic stop trying to hide it

tbh i am bad lol1 votes

Hmm. This does work for Town of Salem, the good web game. It have a good community where they help in cleaning and handing in reports. The users in Town of Salem for reports had to be very trustworthy. I am not sure if this could work for a large community like this one. So far, I do believe that a current ban system is working as intended most of times. Just play like as if you are playing with your family or friends in front of audience(RIOT or others).

TheBloodLordVlad1 votes

that does not work in this game. you cannot just play for fun in this game, I want to win, and only win, I dont want to lose, everyone in the game wants to win, as soon as you get someone playing for fun, who goes 1/8, you get tilted and flame him, because you want to win the game, not lose it.

DBS Ronovon1 votes

No. We don't need people like PowerScope banning me from League too, I already get banned on here for saying regular things and they get taken out of context.

TheBloodLordVlad1 votes

pretty sure its obvious when a rioters target banning you, usually it takes 3 games no matter what to get punished, but when its one game, where what you said is questionable, its 100% gaurantee a rioter stalking your account waiting for you to slip up. If you search up shaclone rioter target banning, watch it, youll understand how bull shit this company is

Modl Ryden l1 votes

I would suspect it wouldn't take long for the Tribunal to come to a point where a feeding roaming Teemo strategy was acceptable and therefore have them pass off as 'not guilty' or the equivalent.

Point being, if you keep players in charge of moderating themselves, it's almost certain that it can come to a point what used to be seen as toxic or negative can later be turned over to something acceptable, and therefore allow offenders to walk out of the judgement process unscathed. At the same time, small time offenders or blatant rage reports to a legitimate and non offending player could be punished without a way to plea innocent.

And most of the time I'd reckon reports are made because of rage. So there'd be an entire backlog for what I'd argue would be the millions of players that get reported daily. I would like to think it worked back then when LoL was a very small game in preseason 1.

Frankly, with the way the boards are and how rarely level-headed players come visit and actually engage in discussion here, I wouldn't want my account set on stage for a Tribunal for the time I DC'd because of something as arbitrary as a thunderstorm.

KFCeytron1 votes

Many years ago, LoL's behavior system used something called the Tribunal, comprising player volunteers who logged into a system that showed them chat logs from reported players. Those volunteers would then vote on whether to punish or pardon the reported player's case. This system's main flaw was that it simply took far too long due to LoL's huge playerbase. Participants would often be reviewing chat logs that were several months old, with a growing backlog. In addition to that, not every participant took the task seriously: some would spam the same verdict for every case without even reading the chat log, or even invert their verdicts on purpose.

The current system, called the Instant Feedback System, or IFS, is automated software that uses machine learning to determine what behavior should be punishable and when a player's behavior should be punished. It started with data from the Tribunal, and has been learning and adapting for years. It operates on the same basic principles as a spam filter: get a corpus of data (emails/chat logs), have humans categorize each item as acceptable or unacceptable, find patterns within each category, and then finally look for those patterns to automatically categorize new items without direct human evaluation. Each report is like clicking the "spam" button. When a new pattern starts to get lots of reports, the IFS recognizes it as a new form of toxicity.

The IFS is efficient and unbiased. The Tribunal was not.

Riot's punishment system used to hand out stacking chat restrictions, such that consistently toxic players basically had a permanent chat restriction. Unfortunately, it turns out that such players used their few chat opportunities to be toxic, and, when they couldn't be as toxic as they wanted to, they resorted to committing non-chat offenses such as griefing (following someone around and taking their farm, using wall abilities to interfere with their play, etc.) or inting. The purpose of the punishment system is to eliminate rule-breaking, not make it worse. Thus, if a couple chat restrictions don't make any difference in a player's misbehavior, the system ramps up the punishments until the player is permabanned and thus unable to use that account to break any more rules ever again.

The ability to play on a new account doesn't negate the benefits of permabanning toxic players. If every single one of them did that, then it would at least be a minor punishment, taking away their unlocked skins, icons, champs, and so on. Any who don't do that are removed from the game and the problem is solved in at least those instances. Quite frankly, Riot and 99.994% of the playerbase (people without permabans, according to Riot's figures on this, which I see no reason to doubt) don't give one whit for how permabanned players feel about being ejected from the game for consistently appalling behavior. Most permabanned players stop playing the game. It's extremely rare for a permabanned player to be so oblivious and/or unbalanced that they accumulate multiple permabans on a series of accounts. Riot does not have the wherewithal to prevent that except when a highly-visible player (such as a popular streamer) engages in this behavior, in which case they may issue an ID ban (Riot employees manually ban any account that such a player is seen to use).

You are certainly allowed to defend yourself from toxic chat, which is accomplished by muting. This is a 100% effective method. Flaming back is a 0% effective method that also constitutes unacceptable behavior and thus opens you up to reports and punishments. Read about this in more detail here.

For tilting and losing my mind on people in a VIDEO GAME 1.5% of the time.

You think people should be okay with letting you be toxic and harass them just because you're doing it over a video game? By the same token, why are you tilting and losing your mind on people in a VIDEO GAME? Why should people have to deal with a player like you when they're trying to enjoy a VIDEO GAME? Why are you making such a big deal out of being banned from a VIDEO GAME?

Having ten permabanned accounts is not normal, even for people with permabanned accounts. Most get the hint and just leave.

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