Racism and when it crosses the line to where someone deserves to be banned.

GangreneMonk·Aug 29, 2016·4 votes·569 views

Throughout my League of Legends experience I come across many players who through out derogatory comments about blacks and gays. In fact, my last game I played had a whole team making racist remarks and homophobic remarks towards me just because I was trying to have fun playing a champion in a off role. (Mind you it was Teemo Jungle) But where do those remarks cross the line. There should never be any kind of tolerance to remarks such as those. I personally wish these types of players are permanently banned from the game. Make them lose all their progress and money they spent for making the League Community a hate stricken one.

11 Comments

EMetaAug 29, 20165 votes

It's a tiered system. It's not typically about the severity as much as the repetition and not stopping after several increasingly significant warnings.

GangreneMonkAug 29, 20161 votes

Problem is many players go unreported because good players don't have trust in the system. One reported instance should let Riot know that maybe these comments are not the first time they have been said. I kind of take it like with a "punished pedophile" mentality, meaning if you get caught once saying stuff like that then there should be some severe punishment. Even if they don't ban them, brand them a racist or homophobic so the rest of the community can see and that their teammates can mute them instantaneuously

Gary B EnkelisAug 29, 20162 votes

I consider myself a good player. You could prove me wrong. I report people when I think it's deserved. I have received confirmation from the system on at least two occasions. That's fine for me since I'm pretty sure those two occasions were head and shoulders above the others...

I have not checked back on those players to see if they still play the game, or whatever. It's not really my business and I forgot their names anyway.

scazzmanAug 29, 20161 votes

sex offender registry doesnt work for sex offenders. it just makes them more likely to reoffend

GangreneMonkSep 4, 20161 votes

and that's why you ban these idiots who want to use hate speech as a way to make themselves feel good.

Troll ArmadaAug 29, 20162 votes

Well, I just posted yet another game where cheating/feeding players were not in the least bit worried of getting punished.

With that said, I think Riot does take racist comments relatively seriously given that their priorities are thought policing the player base. Submit a support ticket, and I would expect that action would be taken in this case.

Gary B EnkelisAug 29, 20161 votes

Maybe a temp ban. A chat restriction is fine, too. The offense was done in chat, so removing chat seems to fit the "crime".

If it keeps up then ban.

By the way, iPav is a Teemo player in high diamond or master who jungles it. His recent match history isn't showing a lot of Teemo jungle but I think it used to be like his thing. I dunno. He still does it sometimes.

emreecheekAug 29, 20161 votes

I've been really disappointing by Riot's handling of overt racism, misogyny, and homophobia. Both in the game and on the forums. I guess white, straight dudes are the majority of their NA base, so losing players of color and gays and women is easier than cracking down on the people who buy their product.

My understanding is that this is of course a gamer problem in general, but I've heard that Riot is not as good at handling it as other companies.

Telephone BoothAug 31, 20161 votes

It's just a matter of personal opinion. I don't think anyone should be banned ever for the things they say, but I'm just a brainwashed american, spoiled by free speech. If you're offended by racist/homophobic remarks, you're gonna get offended ALOT in life. I don't think riot should be involved in social interaction between players... the mute feature is there and that should be the extent of their involvement.

GangreneMonkSep 4, 20161 votes

See and that's the problem right there, its not just offensive its hate speech. There are reasons why NEO-NAZISM is looked down upon, same with the KKK. You can call my game play shit, I don't care about that, but there is a line when people use "%%%%%%" or "%%%GOT" as a way to demonize you and provoke you. Where I'm from people get killed over that stuff. Honestly, people should watch their mouths because its really easy to obtain personal information on servers and use that information to antagonize someone. Threats and stuff, get what I'm saying. Cyber bullying leads to mass killings and one way to stop it is to ban people who are racist or homophobic from their games.

Telephone BoothSep 6, 20161 votes

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See and that's the problem right there, its not just offensive its hate speech. There are reasons why NEO-NAZISM is looked down upon, same with the KKK. You can call my game play shit, I don't care about that, but there is a line when people use "%%%%%%" or "%%%GOT" as a way to demonize you and provoke you. Where I'm from people get killed over that stuff. Honestly, people should watch their mouths because its really easy to obtain personal information on servers and use that information to antagonize someone. Threats and stuff, get what I'm saying. Cyber bullying leads to mass killings and one way to stop it is to ban people who are racist or homophobic from their games.

I don't know man... hate speech is still speech. It's still an idea in someone's mind.. we shouldn't not allow someone to speak a word that anyone can think in their own head. Like okay, you thought it, but the second vibrations hit the air from your mouth.. the second you speak it, suddenly you should be imprisoned? Or in this case, banned? We're Banning words... like that's just absurd to me. That's a very slippery slope. I hate israel... people would say that's hate speech against Jewish people. I have no problem with Jewish people, but the second I speak my mind on Isreal I'm suddenly an antisemite and it's hate speech. That's fucked in my opinion. You can't ban words in a society where media manipulates people. The flow of information is not based on truth, so it'd be very easy to convince people something is good and ban any speech against said thing. It's manipulation. It's oppressive. It's not as simple as "well as long as we only ban the unnecessary offensive words..." because necessity gets manipulated by motives of certain people. The fact that some people are too dense to dig deeper and think for themselves, doesn't mean that hate speech should be banned. If someone is convinced to kill because of someone else's hate speech, that person is fucked up and there's nothing other people can do to prevent that. Banning words is like putting blinders on people instead of addressing actual issues and having an open discussion, where all opinions are considered.