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RipUrFace·1/25/2017, 12:44:17 AM·1 votes·954 views

To start things off, I have been toxic in the past and received chat bans for it so I have been really making an effort to try to control how I talk to people in game. And I do think i've made some decent improvements. However, I just got banned for 2 games that, upon reading them over again, are really quite mild. In fact, the worst thing I can see that I said was "this team is garbage" and I proceeded to state why in a factual manner. It wasn't over the top. It wasn't using excessive amounts of language. It wasn't all caps raged. It wasn't attacking the player as a person. It wasn't threatening violence. It was simply stating that the team was bad and the game was over. It is not toxic to be critical of your team, especially when its warranted. and I said it one time when I was trying to start a surrender, which inherently effects our chances of winning the game. If the team is bad, youre chances of having a comeback are slim. Just end it. Stating this is not toxic.

To break it down, in game 1 I'm critical of my veigar support. I asked him in the lobby not to go veigar support and he gave me a whole spiel about how it works well and he was on a hot streak with it. I had pick order on him and openly said I was planning on going AP harass bot lane. He says its fine and I cave and let him try it without making a fuss...because I'm honestly trying not to be as toxic. We get in lane and he starts his harass where he "accidentally" takes my cs even though he promised not to and ends up giving away first blood by walking under their turret at level 2 and getting caught. I don't get negative. I b, we get back to lane and play it more safe except that veigar is constantly spamming his stun and has nothing for peel since his other 3 moves are pure damage. They get to the point where they are able to walk right up to us and kill us without much resistance. Go back to lane and ask the jungler for help. our lane is 0-3-0 at this point and if we don't get help, we are going to start feeding hard. Stating a fact. Not threatening to feed. Not directly accusing their veigar. Hell, I even said please. Still no ganks. I'm trying to aa farm as not to push while veigar is literally standing under tower. Jungle gank. we die under tower. Veigar is helpless this whole time. At this point I tell him that veigar is just about worthless bot lane. Not HIM, but the champoin veigar itself. I then proceed to back up my statements as to why I think so and ask him to stay in the meta. This is not toxic. At this point our lane is something like 0-5 or 0-6, our mid is 0-4, and our top and jungle are not carrying by any marginal kill or cs count. Tower is lost. I group up to push midlane and fight it out and ask team to end it. Team refuses to group and we continue to die (yeah. surprise. get no help and keep dying. who would have thought). GP tells me to get out of mid and starts bming me when he's doing just as bad. I say no, I'm gonna keep pushing because its literally all I'm good for right now, and it turns out thats where 100% of my kill participation came from. They get mad that my score is garbage even though I had a troll support and 0 ganks, and report me. Once again, for the situation that was sucky all around, what I said was quite mild and highly merited.

I dont' even know why I'm being reported in game 2. The worst thing I said was telling jg to learn to do their job. She was literally intentionally trolling by not ganking because I flashed in to get a kill in my own lane after mid had roamed and obviously was not going to get it with his brand burn. He was toxic the whole game and left me to duel and defend top lane when riven was spamming q and pushing constantly. easy gank. easy lane. and she didn't come once. This isn't reportable and I'm not saying that it is, but it is a dick move. So my team keeps telling me to group up and I say not until I get a gank. I'll keep going top and dueling. Once again, not reportable. Shyv ends up being toxic all game, admitting that she didn't care if we lost and that she didn't care if she was toxic because she had other accounts. All this and the worst thing I said was "learn to do your job jg." That is not toxic in the slightest. |

Overall, I was critical of my team at times and for good reason. But I never lost my cool. Never all caps raged. Never threatened anyone. Never used lots of profanity. And whenever I was critical of someone I backed it up with facts. This is not warranting of a ban.

Game 1 RipUrFace: what did you start veigar? RipUrFace: I refuse to be pessimistic. our ganks will be good. come soo nplease RipUrFace: hey rengar. what abou those ganks I asked for 3 levels ago? we are getting fuking creamed down here. come or its a feed fest. RipUrFace: btw, your veigar support is terrible. don't do it again. you tried. you failed. stick to the meta. RipUrFace: see? you have 0 peel. you have terrible poke. you scale hard with items. just play lux support next time. veigar is worthless b RipUrFace: yeah, i'm just going mid and pushing. this team is garbage. veigar watches me die from tower at full hp. 0 ganks. mid feeds. RipUrFace: i'm just going to keep pushing mid. I got trolled bot. viegar did nothing all lane. this was over in chmp select. RipUrFace: its ok. just vote to ff and I'll report my trolling bot lane

Game 2 RipUrFace: come gank me. she's pushing uber hard. easy kill RipUrFace: asked for ganks in lobby. still have 0 ganks. RipUrFace: bro, yorue not jg. I dont' need gank from you. you wouldnt' have to the kill anyways RipUrFace: still waiting on a gank from shyv. I love how its now been 13 minuts and she hasnt' come top, even though riven is constantly a RipUrFace: for what? wanting a gank vs a laner who is spamming her q all day? she's an easy kill? learn to do your job jg RipUrFace: no. not gonna wast ult anymore on garbage team. wanna play like that shyv? be toxic. I'll push top and duel to death. idc. RipUrFace: get used to that shyv. every death I have top lane is now 100% on you since you want to refuse to gank me out of spite. RipUrFace: I have no intention of stopping going top until shyv ganks. she admits to throwing because of pettiness. let her suffer. RipUrFace: this shyv...I cannot wait to report. RipUrFace: there are 2 wards on the board right now. both are mine. fix it. its not hard. everyone here has a trinket

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AeroWaffle1/25/2017, 12:51:08 AM7 votes

RipUrFace: btw, your veigar support is terrible. don't do it again. you tried. you failed. stick to the meta. RipUrFace: see? you have 0 peel. you have terrible poke. you scale hard with items. just play lux support next time. veigar is worthless b RipUrFace: yeah, i'm just going mid and pushing. this team is garbage. veigar watches me die from tower at full hp. 0 ganks. mid feeds. RipUrFace: i'm just going to keep pushing mid. I got trolled bot. viegar did nothing all lane. this was over in chmp select. RipUrFace: its ok. just vote to ff and I'll report my trolling bot lane

Game 1 was just a downward spiral into insults and report calls.

Viegar support is bad -> Viegar is worthless -> Team is garbage -> I got trolled by viegar -> I'm leaving lane to only push mid -> I'm reporting my bot lane

Same with game 2.

It's the junglers decision whether or not to gank your lane, not yours. In reponse, it sounds like you were intentionally staying top lane because Shyv wasn't coming to gank.

RipUrFace: no. not gonna wast ult anymore on garbage team. wanna play like that shyv? be toxic. I'll push top and duel to death. idc. RipUrFace: get used to that shyv. every death I have top lane is now 100% on you since you want to refuse to gank me out of spite. RipUrFace: I have no intention of stopping going top until shyv ganks. she admits to throwing because of pettiness. let her suffer.

That's you throwing the game due to pettiness, since it's pretty obvious that you thought that staying top was a bad decision and you were using it as a threat.

Then near the end you were calling to report again.

Edit: As a side note;

Really? You were calling the Veigar worthless and that he should stick to the meta when he went 1/4/0 and you went 0/11/3 with AP support item Nasus bot lane instead of adc?

I took a look at the Viegar's match history. Out of his 8 last games that he played as Viegar support, he only lost one game. It was with you.

Out of your 4 games where you played "ADC but actually Nasus AP support items", you lost 3.

I think you need to re-evaluate which of you needs to stick to the meta.

BlastRush1/25/2017, 12:54:32 AM1 votes

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Limmie1/25/2017, 4:23:21 PM1 votes

Saying "this team is garbage" is toxic no matter how you look at it. So is telling people you'll report them, and in fact anything negative is toxic. Just don't say anything. Your team is not gonna play better because you're berating them, they're not gonna take the word of a random teammate and improve themselves even if what you say is true. There's zero percent chance saying stuff like that will improve them or the game, and there's a chance they'll take offense to it and maybe tilt. Nothing good will come out of it, but bad things can. So just don't say anything. That's all there is to it.

I'm not even trying to be condescending here, I myself start every game (specially ranked games) muting everybody. I don't read anything, I don't type anything. If there's anything I need to say I ping, and if they want to say anything they should ping. If they spam ping I mute the pings too. My games improved, my performance improved, my mood improved, and I have zero chance of ever be banned.

I sincerely recommend everyone to disable their chats. You don't need it at all.