When you see someone hovering over a champ that you know is not going to work well with the team comp, or is kind of a troll pick, is it okay to ban that champ? Does that make you a troll? Is it justifiable to be on tilt if someone bans your intended pick?
Banning someone's hovered is a bit extreme. It's like poping a kid's ballon. Honestly if you are talking about ranked (I'm assuming you are.), and you really care about how you're climbing, then dodge. Dodging is frowned upon, but if u KNOW you're better and you want to climb, you need to save your mmr. Hitting challenger mmr is worth 5minuets compared to losing it because of someone going to troll because you banned, or because you just played the game out.
I think its kind off an asshole move. First of all this has had happened to me and it is not a pleasant experience. In this situation in particular, I was in my gold promos and the jungle didn't like me picking yasuo top(a champion which I am comfortable with). So he started calling me names and told me I was bad at yasuo and proceeded to ban the champ. I LOST MY SHIT. I proceeded to pick his champ and go jungling because of this. And i feel no regret in losing my promos. TL;DR... Don't do this unless you wanna be an asshole or wan't to instigate a fight.
I only do this if i am in my promos and i know the person is trolling for example hovering an anivia jungle im ganna ban it with the hopes that they dodge or pick an actual jungle champion. i have had too many trolls to deal with that in my promos.
No it makes you an asshole. Even if you're in promos and they've already said they don't want to change it it will still make it a dick move.
It's generally good strategy I've found. The person rages a bit then they pick their fallback champ which is usually meta and strong. The trick is to not tell them why you are doing it, like don't tell them we need a tank cause then they won't tank out of spite, etc. Ban them, tell them I don't want a Bronze Nid Jungle man how it is, then stop talking, they will pick their Amumu main a lot of times, lol.
I do this a lot in norms, can't say how it would go in ranked. Tilting people in ranked people get way more tilted it may be less successful I don't know.
I was in a game where the ADC was hovering Aurelion Sol. I banned Sol, because as the support, I didn't want to get my ass handed to me by any enemy ADC. The guy lost his shit because "he and his friend had already agreed that they would swap mid and bot" without any notification whatsoever in the room chat.
I just made a suggestion today that team hovers be disallowed from being banned: Here
Regardless of how you might justify it, banning someone's hover will more often than not result in salt; doing it intentionally is always toxic because you're either trying to backseat drive someone's play (suffering from "I know better than you" syndrome) or you're just doing it to be a butt.
It defies logic why you would want to start the game on bad terms with one of your team mates - them potentially tilting off that is far more detrimental to your victory chances than a pick you don't agree with.
Sure your team comp is important, but youre a silver V (low elo). Do you know this person from several games or is it a random match? Do you know who else they have purchased?
I have a silver account I never leveled up due to lack of interest with probably 15 boring ass champs.
I have a bronze account I have never leveled up with almost all champs unlocked.
I have 3 gold accounts with almost all champs unlocked.
When you ban someone they want to play, you are risking banning their main champ who they know how to play. They may hardly have any other rune pages. Now if they are jungle, and they want to take soraka, by all means ban that shitt. But your bans should primarily focus on people you dont want to have to fight against. I.e If I take pantheon top I can beat EVERY meta top laner, except volibear at my elo. So I would ban volibear. Rather than waste my time banning someone who my team wants to play.
I've had people ban Illaoi when i prepick them when i'm first pick because they dont want to deal with her. Like really? I'm first pick and an Illaoi main while he choose Yi mid. lol.
Iunno, there are some cases where I say it's ok to ban a champ a teammate wants to play. The most common one is when new champion just came out and everybody wants to play them in ranked before they get a valid amount of practice. If there's ever a new champ, I always ban them regardless of whether or not somebody on my team wanted it. There's no way they're that good with the champion yet and nobody is going to know how to play with or against it for a while.
And then there's the obviously stupid choices like Graves support. But those people are probly going to be stupid no matter which way you go about it so it's a dangerous game.
