Can we please have a notification of when our Reports actually contribute to a player's reform?

q O y O p··54 votes·2,339 views

All I ask is for:

"Thank you Summoner! You have helped contribute to a player's reform by properly reporting <player name> for <report>."

Also, please include:

"Dear Summoner,"

"Your report against <player name> for <report> was frivolous. Please only use the reporting system for actual incidents as frivolous reports will only clog up the system and lower the weight of your future reports. Thank you."

Oh, and when someone is punished by the system add a button next to "I understand" for "Open support ticket".

This would eliminate nearly 90% of the board posts in this section and would assist in helping players better understand the reporting system, its limitations and its proper use.

Thank you.

25 Comments

Shac Norris16 votes

Riot did say

''If you had a notification for every punished player that you once voted on it would be annoying in the long term''

But yeah i do want to get spammed with notifications saying that something has been done to ban the guys who tell others to go kill themselves just because you couldn't save him as a support lol

xReadyPlayerOnex2 votes

Actually, I'd very much like to know EVERY time. Regardless of the "consequences".

JARmates1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Shac Norris,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=NgJsEyOU,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2015-11-07T21:47:50.132+0000)

Riot did say

''If you had a notification for every punished player that you once voted on it would be annoying in the long term''

But yeah i do want to get spammed with notifications saying that something has been done to ban the guys who tell others to go kill themselves just because you couldn't save him as a support lol

Yes in a game where it all about killing....oh the irony.

Aerilus1 votes

@JARMATES Do you just go into every topic and try to derail? Cause you've posted in this topic like 6 times contributing absolutely nothing.

Aerilus1 votes

It would only be annoying to people who abuse the report system and spam reports. I admit there's lots of toxic people, but nothing worth reporting more than once every 5-10 games usually.

But I agree it wouldn't be that annoying, I'd rather see it then not. Personally I only report like once every 40-50 games, but some people probably deserved it inbetween there.

SmokedAlmonds6 votes

They said they didn't want people spammed with those messages. I wouldn't mind it but it may be a little much especially for people who play a lot.

What I would really like is either a page in the client or some period report of your report stats. Like X players you reported were punished, Y reports contributed to a case built against someone, Z were considered invalid.

They intentionally leave out the names for privacy reasons even though with the way it currently works you can almost always figure out who it was.

q O y O p1 votes

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They said they didn't want people spammed with those messages. I wouldn't mind it but it may be a little much especially for people who play a lot.

What I would really like is either a page in the client or some period report of your report stats. Like X players you reported were punished, Y reports contributed to a case built against someone, Z were considered invalid.

They intentionally leave out the names for privacy reasons even though with the way it currently works you can almost always figure out who it was.


[{quoted}](name=Shac Norris,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=NgJsEyOU,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2015-11-07T21:47:50.132+0000)

Riot did say

''If you had a notification for every punished player that you once voted on it would be annoying in the long term''

But yeah i do want to get spammed with notifications saying that something has been done to ban the guys who tell others to go kill themselves just because you couldn't save him as a support lol

Privacy is not a concern as it is YOU reporting another player. They are logged in your Recently Played with list as well as available in your match history. Notifying a victim of the accused's reform is not a violation of privacy. If they are worried about people adding them afterwards and saying things like "I told you sucker, you got punished for that shit!!" then why have the option to decline a friend invitation. It's the same as the mute button, you can literally block the toxicity with it. It's your choice.

If the issue is that there are so many punished players that it would become annoying to others that they are receiving notifications of this type, then perhaps the issue is not actually being addressed correctly and the system, as is, is in fact broken. Do jails work? No, they breed better criminals.

qetzel2 votes

The system looks for patterns in behaviour over a large number of games (or very specific occurrences in a few). The frivolous report notification therefore might not work. A player who has a small outburst once every month would probably be considered neutral, yet reporting them at that one point would be correct. The system may believe that the one occasion is an outlier and ignore it? I don't know how it works, but there is no guarantee it is good enough to determine everything on a game by game basis.

Reforming player notifications would probably get a bit tedious too. In a survey by Riot most players - particularly those playing multiple games a day - indicated that they would not like a large number of player behaviour notifications. Given the high reform rate (Can't remember off the top of my head - mid 90s?) this would be a large number. It is also not worth the time to develop an opt in/out system. Add to this the fact that a good estimate for reform is three months and you won't remember the specific occurrence. You won't remember the name of the player or what they did. It doesn't really seem worthwhile...

q O y O p2 votes

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The system looks for patterns in behaviour over a large number of games (or very specific occurrences in a few). The frivolous report notification therefore might not work. A player who has a small outburst once every month would probably be considered neutral, yet reporting them at that one point would be correct. The system may believe that the one occasion is an outlier and ignore it? I don't know how it works, but there is no guarantee it is good enough to determine everything on a game by game basis.

Reforming player notifications would probably get a bit tedious too. In a survey by Riot most players - particularly those playing multiple games a day - indicated that they would not like a large number of player behaviour notifications. Given the high reform rate (Can't remember off the top of my head - mid 90s?) this would be a large number. It is also not worth the time to develop an opt in/out system. Add to this the fact that a good estimate for reform is three months and you won't remember the specific occurrence. You won't remember the name of the player or what they did. It doesn't really seem worthwhile...

Most cases are dealt with inside the hour, I'm pretty sure I've read somewhere Riot posting a quick turnaround like this somewhere. I've had a chat restriction (don't call your teammates bad) from the Tribunal come into effect before I could even queue up for the next game.

Developing an opt in/out system would not be difficult at all. The entire concept of these notifications are a very easy thing to program being that it's a simple addition to the already in place reporting system.

Dealth2 votes

they already have that

Owatatsumi Kami2 votes

I actually just got a notification saying that one of the players I reported (who other players also reported) got punished. Are you looking for something more than that? I'm a bit confused. I thought that was pretty cool when it happened. It let me know my reports actually had an impact.

Vincent Lucius1 votes

Apparently this actually happens. I just got one of these a few nights ago.

lolout121 votes

only when your report was the final one that caused the player to be banned. :)

The Exile Kaguya1 votes

I have a screen cap of when someone got banned from a report of mine. Shocked me so much I needed to screen shot it to make sure I wasn't seeing things.

Jungle Brungus1 votes

unfortunately, they never actually contribute :/

RyzeRework1 votes

I've gotten a message before like thanks for your report of a recent summoner has been band by the tribunal or something like that

YoshiSponge1 votes

The account "Princess Cammy" is being boosted by a player "big rings" definitely not his account.

RebelMeThis1 votes

If we get the option of having or not having a chat filter, or showing/hiding friends logging on, for example, then it should be simple to allow the player a choice as to whether to receive these alerts. Possibly even in a format of "every time a report status changes, one a week, never".

Personally I know I would feel much better if I knew that bothering to report toxic afk feeding players actually did something. As it stands, I have no reason to believe it ever makes it to the tribunal... but then I also have little faith in the league community these days :( Just being honest.

Chronobre4k1 votes

A couple of friends of mine told me last night they got a notification. They reported a Draven player or something that was being super toxic, and the message told them the player had been punished.

KingKong23501 votes

Someone wants to rub it in.

q O y O p1 votes

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Someone wants to rub it in.

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Privacy is not a concern as it is YOU reporting another player. They are logged in your Recently Played with list as well as available in your match history. Notifying a victim of the accused's reform is not a violation of privacy. If they are worried about people adding them afterwards and saying things like "I told you sucker, you got punished for that shit!!" then why have the option to decline a friend invitation. It's the same as the mute button, you can literally block the toxicity with it. It's your choice.

greeny9461 votes

i would love being spammed with that because i only report the people who act like assholes and constantly nag others about being better. plus, why are you actually reporting so many people? are you reporting them for acting like assholes or are you reporting them for just being bad? think about it

rampaging poet1 votes

As others have said, Riot doesn't want people getting spammed with "Successful Report" messages. Since they won't implement that, I'd like to see a more condensed view - weekly or monthly "we've reviewed your reports and n% of them led to punishments". Also, there should be a warning when your report weight falls below a certain threshold. That way people who make a lot of legitimate reports wouldn't have to worry about whether they counted for anything or not. As long as you hadn't received the warning you could be sure your reports were in line with the community's values.

JARmates1 votes

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All I ask is for:

"Thank you Summoner! You have helped contribute to a player's reform by properly reporting <player name> for <report>."

Also, please include:

"Dear Summoner,"

"Your report against <player name> for <report> was frivolous. Please only use the reporting system for actual incidents as frivolous reports will only clog up the system and lower the weight of your future reports. Thank you."

Oh, and when someone is punished by the system add a button next to "I understand" for "Open support ticket".

This would eliminate nearly 90% of the board posts in this section and would assist in helping players better understand the reporting system, its limitations and its proper use.

Thank you.

Whatever stroke your ego mate.

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