The only thing I ask, is that when you decide to chat ban anyone for simply for being a "toxic player", could you please provide the full chat logs? I KNOW WHAT I SAID. I want to remember fully what the other player said so when I come back to the forums to appeal/ I can present an argument on why I dont deserve my punishment, or even better. See that I was truly out of line, and realize my behavior needs to change.
I want to remember fully what the other player said so when I come back to the forums to appeal/ I can present an argument on why I dont deserve my punishment...
Other people's behavior doesn't factor into your punishment. You're punished for what you said, not why you said it. If you broke the rules, you deserve the punishment, regardless of what any other player in the match said.
...or even better. See that I was truly out of line, and realize my behavior needs to change.
You should be able to see that your behavior was out of line in reading your chat logs. What you're doing is trying to apply your own standards to your punishment, and your standards do not align with Riot's. The rules do not change depending on other people's behavior.
Context Matters when punishing people for "Toxic Behaviour"
Context does not matter. It doesn't matter if other people were flaming you first, or if other people were worse - whether or not you broke the rules is what matters.
If you want to discuss your punishment, copy and paste the chat logs you were provided in the reform card, and we can peer-review it.
I am curious why there is such a large portion of people that actually believe this.. that breaking the rules is ok because someone else did something you do not like.
In what part of the world does this actually apply?
It doesn't matter tho The reform card shows what YOU'RE getting punished for, which is why it shows your logs Other people's logs don't matter It doesn't matter what they said, it doesn't matter what they did If you broke the rules, you broke the rules. Context won't change that
Also, the forums aren't the place where you can appeal your punishments. The riot support is for that
but it dont matter what the other person said or did. you broke the rules. you get punished for what you said and did.
You seem to have a few misconceptions on how the system works. It's not a "I'm going to judge and punish 1 player in that game" system, but instead, it's a system that punishes based on consistency x severity. Meaning you can get punished for 1 game of extreme toxicity or many games of mild toxicity.
To put it in order words, think of the system like a health bar (or tension meter) in music games. When you hit the note at an off beat, your tension meter increases. When you completely miss a note, the meter increases by alot. When you hit the note at good timings, it reduces the meter.
Riot's behavior system works the same way, as in we all have a toxicity meter attached to our accounts. When players are mildly toxic, it goes up a tad. When people use hate speech, it pretty much fills up the meter. of course, clean games reduce the meter.
It is possible for playerA to get punished and playerB not to, even though playerB was waaayyyyy more toxic . Let's say playerA started the game with the toxicity meter at 95% and playerB's at 35%. Ingame, playerB said some pretty nasty shit and playerA responds with some minor shit as well. After the game, playerA gains 10% toxicity and playerB gains 50%. Now playerA is at 105% toxicity and gets punished, whereas playerB is at 85%, and not punished in that specific game, even though playerB was found to be 5x more toxic than playerA in that game.
The logs of other people don't matter because everyone has a different behavioral history. Every reported person will have the game reviewed independantly from others and the review score accumulated into their individual behavioral history.
your biggest mistake is to "appeal"
we cant unban you or lift your CR. and riot wont either.
so yeah.
You're only temp banned from chat lol. Brothers over here getting permabanned for calling their teammates inters.
Context in that sense doesn't matter actually. You are never allowed to break the rules, regardless of what other people are doing/saying. So whether they said something first or not, doesnt matter. Its more your response to it that matters for you, since only your actions are being judged. Thats actually why they dont provide anyones chat but your's. Just like how the other person isnt being punished based on your responses to him or what you say, theyre only being punished based on what they said. If you just want it so you can justify it to random strangers on a forum, well thats weird and youre shit out of luck.
"Context Matters when punishing people for "Toxic Behaviour""
Practically speaking, yes, but in League of Legends, no. The entire thread is basically worthless, because it ends there.
Everything else discussed is purely to help you understand that. And everyone else is doing exactly that, so heed them, all that needs said in that regard has already been said.
People are responsible for the actions they take be it in reaction to what someone else says or not every action has a positive or negative consequence and the action taken largely influences the nature of the consequence.
source https://support-leagueoflegends.riotgames.com/hc/en-us/articles/201752884
Negative behavior is unacceptable regardless of the circumstances or who started it. It can be tempting to respond to negative players with negativity of your own. Our systems do not care who started the behavior and will treat each reported player based off the merits of their own case. The only way to handle these types of players is to mute them and continue playing the game followed by giving them a report at the end of the match.
