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The current reform system does not do enough to reform players. Here's why:

HalcyonDweller·8/10/2017, 4:45:29 PM·5 votes·333 views

I see a lot of people post here about getting banned, and plenty of those cases are instances where the person was extremely toxic and definitely deserved the ban.

But some of the cases I've seen involve people who are just bad at controlling their temper, or are not emotionally stable, reacting to trolls or harassment by being toxic themselves.

I believe that these types of players, if given the tools and time to recover and mature, could easily grow into the types of players who do not respond to trolls and harassment with their own toxicity.

For example, I used to trigger extremely hard whenever someone would tell anybody else to "kys" in my games, but in the years since I started playing league I've matured and learned how to handle it without starting a flame war.

This is why I think that upon receiving punishment for toxicity (chat restrictions, 14 day bans, etc. ), players should be given links to guides on how to better handle situations that frustrate them.

P.S. for the record I've never (as far as I can remember) received a punishment in-game. My days of flaming were before the punishment system became more strict. I simply believe that we could do more to guide and shape these players into better people who would not flame one another the instant their team gives up first blood (or makes other similar mistakes).

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12 Comments

YerroFever8/10/2017, 4:56:24 PM7 votes

Riot is in no way responsible for ensuring someone becomes a functional human being in this world.

If you aren't mature enough to understand that actions have consequences and you have to treat everyone in this world like a human being, then that's the problem of the individual, not Riot's problem.

Giving them suggestions on who to go to for their problems not only creates a problem through that referral, it opens themselves up to liability down the line for actions taken by that individual because of the referral.

In Riot's best interest, they should not be suggesting and referring people to self help or even professional help.

For the community's best interest, those that get permabanned should probably never play league again because they're most likely not interested in reforming and becoming a better person. They're probably the kinds of people who stomp their feet and cry because you don't let them do whatever they want to do and call the system unfair and biased.

Drugoth8/10/2017, 5:08:45 PM2 votes

Although I believe that the punishment system has proved quite effective, it wouldn't hurt to have resources posted to help toxic players along on their road to reform.

What about something like a toxic players anonymous as a sort of support group exercise. You could get enrolled in said group after getting a 14 day ban. I feel like a support group would be a great step in the right direction.

Although a slap on the wrist is more often than not more than enough to cause a player to reform, there will always be the outliers that resist reform for whatever reasons. Having a program in place to help the the more stubborn guys can't hurt imo.

DrCyanide8/10/2017, 6:10:12 PM1 votes

I voted "I don't care", but my thoughts are more accurately "I don't know." Shoving a self help link in the face of someone struggling with something can push them away - self help is generally something that's best sought after rather than given out.

I personally think that a punishment between 14 day and permaban would be a good idea, because it would give those people who actually start trying when they get a 14 day ban a tiny bit of extra wiggle room to learn to improve.