Can we agree that the Leaverbuster system punishes more innocent people than guilty ones?

Mattmanganon·Sep 24, 2016·4 votes·524 views

Seriously, I play casually, but a lot of my friends that play it religiously also agree that the Leaverbuster is killing it for them.

See, we live in the countryside where Internet is not the most stable thing. If it drops for so much as a minute, we get punished. The other day, my friend was playing it, I unplugged what I thought was the cordless phone charger and was actually the internet box because I was trying to find somewhere to plug the hoover in. Immediately plugged it back in when I realized what I had done. He was gone for 2 minutes and got thrown onto the leaverbuster system. The only lesson that taught him was that the leaverbuster system is less a means of punishing guilty people and discouraging them and more a means of cutting costs on moderators. About a year ago, my internet was on the fritz and I got a warning about DQing. It finally started going fine, when one of my fuses blew because my room mate plugged a cheap chinese charger for his mobile and we had to flip the breakers. I was AFK for 5 minutes and was banned for a week, the 1 week I had off, I may add.

Now, this system would be tolerable if it wasn't for the "No appeal" system that means "We don't care if it was due to circumstances out of your control, it's still all your fault." And until they change it, I will refuse to believe that it is anything other than a cheap means of not paying for actually fair moderation, you know, like most decent online games like TF2, Overwatch, WoW and stuff like that have. To quote Ben Franklin "it is better 100 guilty Persons should escape than that one innocent Person should suffer." (Only this time, it's better that 1 guilty man should escape than 100 should suffer) And the real kicker of this situation? I don't even play ranked matches, so nobody really cares if they have a bad game in unranked mode. But the punishment is just as severe. It should go back to the report system, where, at the end of the match, the players should get to decide whether the person deserves to be punished.

Please, RIOT, I love your game, but this system is really killing my ability to enjoy it. Mainly because I know that i'm going to get banned at some point and i'm going to have literally no say in the matter. My net drops 1 time too often and that's it, i'm as guilty as anybody that deliberately trolls the game.

14 Comments

oSEXYPLATYPUSoSep 24, 20163 votes

leave buster punishes people who leave games... so any one who leaves a game for whatever reason it may be is punished i think its accurate

MattmanganonSep 24, 20161 votes

Yes, but it's not accurate when most of the people who leave games do so due to circumstances out of their control. I mean, if I came along and took your keyboard whilst you were playing, would you say it was fair if you got banned for that?

oSEXYPLATYPUSoSep 24, 20161 votes

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Yes, but it's not accurate when most of the people who leave games do so due to circumstances out of their control. I mean, if I came along and took your keyboard whilst you were playing, would you say it was fair if you got banned for that?

you dont get banned for the occasional leave... that happens you get banned when you do it over and over and have a history of afk

come on man...

i have afked a game due to an emergency and told team i had to... come back next day no punishment...

oSEXYPLATYPUSoSep 24, 20161 votes

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Yes, but it's not accurate when most of the people who leave games do so due to circumstances out of their control. I mean, if I came along and took your keyboard whilst you were playing, would you say it was fair if you got banned for that?

lol if you try to come and take my keyboard thinking you are big enough go ahead... you wont like what happens. oh btw i live in the state of texas... we have guns here go ahead and jsut walk in. if you make it pass my 100lbs wolf ( yes a real wolf ) and make it to my room you wont leave on your own feet

scazzmanSep 24, 20161 votes

pure or domestic hybrid?

oSEXYPLATYPUSoSep 24, 20161 votes

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pure or domestic hybrid?

she is timberwolf and lab mix... she is the best dog I have ever had. her name is AZUL which is blue in Spanish her eyes are baby blue and white while her coat is mix of red and chocolate brown with white strip down her chest and white markings on her paws

scazzmanSep 24, 20161 votes

awww

oSEXYPLATYPUSoSep 24, 20161 votes

but to tell you the truth the one you gotta watch out for is my female cat named lil shit she is black n white and she will hurt you... Azul she is friendly as long as your don't pose a threat ... but Id highly suggest you don't.

Deep Terror NamiSep 24, 20163 votes

If you are unable to secure a stable connection, that doesn't mean Riot needs to stop punishing you, it means you should do something about it or not play for the time being. You are hurting the experience for several other players when this happens, which is why you are held responsible to take action whether it's intentional or not.

BlueThingamajigSep 24, 20163 votes

Does leaverbuster punish innocent players?

Well, not really. I mean, it probably punishes more people who have connection issues than intentional leavers. However, playing with a shit connection that regularly turns games into a 5v4 is not OK. At a certain point, you damn well know your connection is garbage, and deliberately playing is basically the same as intentionally leaving/afking

Leon EtoileSep 24, 20161 votes

You shouldn't be punished for leaving a game with toxic players. They shouldn't have the power to "trap" you in a game.

BlueThingamajigSep 24, 20161 votes

If the players are toxic chat-wise, then you can mute them.

If the players are toxic gameplay-wise (intentionally feeding, stealing jungle camps, etc), then you should grumble and bear it, so that you may report them at the end of the game.

If it's particularly bad, I suppose you could consider leaving. Quite frankly, such games should not be nearly frequent enough to trigger a leaverbuster. If they are, I would think you probably have poor judgement on what constitutes severely negative behavior.