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Lycaon 05 ·12/17/2018, 12:25:05 AM·1 votes·3,486 views

There needs to be more options to report an individual during the game other than just the after game board.

there needs to be a way to report someone within the champion selection. i can not tell you how often someone starts talking shit or spamming the chat with the role they want. both of these inhibit other players from either knowing what roll they need to play or want to play
If we are to avoid toxic players then we need to not be punished for leaving the queue. i have been harassed by the same members from champion selection all the way through the entire game... and yet if i leave champion queue im the one punished and there is no simple way to report the individual.
if the company cared about the players the punishments would be more evenly pushed on players and there would be ways out of the game without being punished

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IntegratedShadow12/17/2018, 12:48:04 AM2 votes

I disagree with most of what you're suggesting. Reporting in champ select? Why? Short of hate speech, even if they pick Teemo jungle and say they're going to feed the enemy team, until the game is played, there's no way to know if that's what they're actually going to do.

As for leaving in Champion Select, you do lose LP but not as much as you would if you just sit there in a queue with someone that you believe is going to feed or grief and then you lose the game. However, staying always offers the opportunity of winning anyways.

I had a "one trick" Zoe in my game that went 1 6 yesterday. The player said that it was a stain on their pride and ego if they were carried so they started running into the enemy team, going afk, refusing to fight in team-fights. We still went on to carry and win the game 4 v 5 because I told my team to ignore her and to keep pushing objectives and traveling as a group so that we weren't getting picked off and furthering our deficit in team fights. Not exactly related to your post, but close enough.

And no, there wouldn't be ways out of the game without being punished. Even as a support main with near instant queue times, I've been in match finding for 10 minutes because people will dodge if they don't like the way a team looks. If there were no repercussions for dodging queue in ranked, finding a game would be a pain in the ass. People would dodge over the slightest thing.

My opinions here of course.

mlm olo mlm12/17/2018, 1:04:19 AM2 votes

Reports have to be verified. I don't know how long that would reasonably take Riot. Too long and the player might as well wait out the low priority queue.

I think your idea could work for obvious chat infractions. Those can be picked up by the automated system within a couple minutes.

Another thing I'm not sure how Riot feels about, is privacy. We don't get notified every time our reports are influential in getting others punished. With the system you suggest, we would be notified every time because our LPQ and LP would be "corrected".

One last issue is that people tend to want to report things that aren't actually offenses. For example, banning team mates intended picks. As long as the ban was not made in malice, we are allowed to ban any champion we want. It is very hard to prove malice unless the player admits to it.

"Troll picks" is another example. We are technically allowed to play any champion in any lane. However, I guarantee the system will be flooded with reports from people that don't like their team mates champion pick.

Kei14312/17/2018, 1:11:23 AM2 votes

If you want to have a way out without getting punished, you first need to figure out a way to stop it from being abuse.

If a premade team doesn't like your pick, can they get out scott free? If you are innocent, but people claim you are trolling, can it be prevented or abused?

If you are able to answer those questions, then we got a good system we can use. Short of that, the system won't be implemented as it is too easily abused.

Also,for pt3: the system doesjudge and punish everyone evenly. It just doesn't do a good job telling you when it punishes others.

Monthly Report Cards was a cool community concept. Riot Tantram has since come on and told us that he is working on something more compelling than monthly report cards.

ı Sona ı12/17/2018, 12:44:05 AM1 votes

? If i'm top and the autofilled support asks to be top I politely decline then pick top without worrying or caring about what they pick, then report later if they try to troll. To have less toxic players, make sure you report anyone you found toxic after every game.

[sona-playing]

rujitra12/17/2018, 1:42:11 AM1 votes

That is cause for a mute button in champion select. Not a report feature. The end game report works just fine for those cases, and there is no benefit at all to adding a feature which would take time to produce that wouldn't cause any benefit. The mute feature would be more likely to occur since it provides actual benefit.
You are not designed to use dodging to "avoid toxic players". The only sort of toxicity whichi s possible in champion select is chat toxicity which can be muted when you get in game just fine. Dodging is intended as a last minute "oh shit i can't actually play this game I don't have time" or emergency measure, not a "tool" to get new teammates.
Why should there be ways out of the game without getting punished? You agree to play a game - you're giving your word to 9 other players (4 teammates and 5 enemies) that you will try your hardest to win in a competitive match. You don't get to break that promise just because you're not having fun anymore - you don't get to say "well if I can't have cake you can't either", for example.