What are your thoughts on name shaming

BreakMeta·5/2/2016, 7:31:16 PM·2 votes·1,359 views

Serious question, recently i have been running into trolls in ranked and i feel like i'm just wasting time. I'm getting frustrated with the fact that my reports mean nothing. I also thought about the recent tyler1 incident and thought about how he got the attention and then riot took charge and banned him. It seems to me that accounts can easily be seen if they are consistently being toxic/trolling and i feel that the easiest way to bring attention to these people is by name shaming. I sincerely believe that the easiest way to get people out of the system is to make riot acknowledge them. Yes its a lot more work for riot but when one account has over 1000 troll games that is 9000 other players that are affected you know that it is not just a bad game. anyways let me know your reasons on why name shaming should or shouldn't be allowed.

34 Comments

AeroWaffle5/2/2016, 7:41:16 PM8 votes

It's Riot's job to enforce punishment.

Name and shame from a single side is starting a witch-hunt. But if the other player starts bragging about their good behavior on the boards then I believe they shoved the door wide open for people to post proof otherwise.

Illiad5/2/2016, 7:34:27 PM7 votes

Name shaming is a pussy excuse of an insult, they cant do shit, so they literally hit whats infront of them. Dont even listen to someone name shaming, they just arent worth the time or effort

Sarutobi5/2/2016, 7:36:29 PM6 votes

Im in the middle. On one hand. its wrong because this might have been a one time thing. And to harass someone based on one match is wrong. But then you have people who make it a habit to troll and i would say if they are continuously being a hazard to the game then it should be fair game. But if thats the case we as a community should see proof of numerous games (i would say at least 5) of them trolling, or just being overall disruptive in the game.

But this is Riot games. Their game, their rules! we have to abide by them.

Leblancster5/2/2016, 8:18:19 PM3 votes

Riot named and shamed, everyone else should be able to now. If your posts are removed by Curator after naming and shaming, but he allows Riot Socrates to do it, I would sue him personally.

buneter5/2/2016, 9:52:20 PM2 votes

so really whats the point. maybe he had a bad game just with you. and now hes being shamed for it. Then maybe he changes his name and someone innocent takes that name and then he gets hated on for being a good guy, and he becomes toxic because everyone is toxic to him. There is literally no point to it

Kei1435/2/2016, 9:48:43 PM2 votes

well, I did tell you to take down the name.

boards has their rules, and if you don't follow them, the post will get removed.

SmokedAlmonds5/2/2016, 7:49:18 PM2 votes

Naming and shaming doesn't accomplish anything. It is just in people's heads that reports don't do anything. Even if that were true a forum post is no different than a report except for the fact that most of the people who are actually in a position to do something about it aren't looking there. They are reading actual reports. W/e you feel you need to post about a player, submit in a support ticket.

The structure of the game also doesn't really leave anything for players to do even if you had the name of a known troll. You can't block them all, you aren't likely to run into that specific person anyway. It's just massive blocks of players who are mostly sorted by large geographic areas. In vanilla and BC WoW many servers maintained blacklists because the community was segmented and each group only had a handful of people to track. So if you are trying to avoid 10-20 players you can manage that. But if there are 100, 1000, 10000 there isn't anything you can do with that information anymore.

Naming and shaming rules are also about protecting the falsely accused. Especially in the case of trolling it is my experience that the overwhelming majority of people who accuse others of trolling put very little if any thought into if they are actually trolling. They just see someone make a decision or mistake that they wouldn't have and label them a troll.

You shouldn't use outliers like tyler1 for stuff like this. He was just that, an outlier. The punishment systems in this game are heavily dependent on people caring about their account in some way. Tyler1 was making money off of the attention he got breaking the rules. Him being toxic was just him going to work. The overwhelming majority of players are going to give up LONG before the ~20 or w/e accounts tyler1 had banned.

aj502 Oneill5/2/2016, 10:01:51 PM1 votes

"Nameshaming" is ok imo...Unfortunately the bedwetters that play LoL would take it to the extreme and "nameshame" everyone but their mother so no, we shouldn't be able to do it.

Not unless these people that play are mature, and we all know that ain't gonna happen.

JayHog19925/2/2016, 8:09:29 PM1 votes

Wouldn't mind if someone shared their two cents about me, even if it's negative. Problem is that it never follows up with constructive criticism, and because of that, player shaming never gets accepted, even if you try to be polite about it.

DJColdCutz5/2/2016, 8:33:36 PM1 votes

My thoughts on naming and shaming is that I'm looking forward to doing it now that rito has started allowing it on these boards.

Awkward Couch5/2/2016, 9:44:59 PM1 votes

I don't think Riot was naming and shaming Tyler1, it was an official PR statement. There would have been more uproar if this happened and Riot didn't announce it.

I don't see what good comes from naming and shaming, literally what can the boards do? A small minority actually come to the boards and the chances of you coming across someone who's been name and shamed is next to zero.

Icestar11865/2/2016, 9:50:01 PM1 votes

Don't nameshame. Mute, report and move on.