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To the big whiner in the last game:

Samus72·11/25/2015, 5:46:59 AM·4 votes·1,603 views

I won't name names. But he knows who he is.

First, he nags because I locked in on Nami. Right. Because YOU were going to pick Nami, right? You typed in "adc." You're not going to adc with Nami. So, strike one.

Then we get in to the game. Since Nami is a healer, I don't see any reason to go to the bottom lane with the other support character. Or at least, that's what the player said they wanted to do. They were playing a tank character. I followed the other tank, Darius, to the top lane. He kills, I heal, we push forward. Sounds good. But Mr. Whiner demands I go to the bottom lane. And when I don't, Mr. Whiner drops the f-bomb and the b-word (rhymes with witch.) Well, I'm not taking that. I mute everyone. Of course, Darius leaves the top lane quickly after. Strike two.

A few minutes later, Mr. Whiner is disconnected for a good five minutes. He probably blamed his ISP.

Despite that we won the game, Mr. Whiner demands that everyone report me. Sure enough, I get the flashed the screen that I'm reported for foul language. Strike three. Mr. Whiner is reported for his own foul language and for sending in a false report.

Have a nice day, Mr. Whiner. And good luck with that report you sent in. I'm sure I'm in biiiig trouble now.

Punk.

19 Comments

Calabok11/25/2015, 7:40:58 AM2 votes

The bigger whiner is the one that whines to the forums... AHEM..

Supreme Senpai6911/25/2015, 8:55:53 PM2 votes

People don't whine when you lock in because they wanted that character. They whine because, like you said, they already had a support role. They wanted you to leave top lane because top lane is a solo lane. When you're in a lane with somebody else, you siphon off 50% of their EXP. That's why the jungler role exists; to allow one extra lane to receive full experience. While foul language is toxic and I'd report him as well, it's totally understandable why he was frustrated. You were messing up their game. The fact that you won is.... amazing.

Team composition: Top lane Mid lane Support/ADC- Bottom lane Jungler- jungle

Learn from this and move on; never auto-lock. Call your preferred role and if you call it first, select your champion. Wait a little bit to make sure nobody auto-locks (because if they auto-lock your role, you need to choose another role because it messes up the entire game. Which is why auto-locking is so frowned upon.) Stay in your lane and contribute your role's benefits to the rest of the team. If you do that, you'll notice a lot less toxicity and will have more enjoyable games.

tl;dr is that if someone cusses you out because you're the support who is taking CS, you're just as wrong as him. There's a reason he's cussing you out, learn from it, and don't do it again. Now nobody will cuss you out for doing that.

Monstar Energy11/25/2015, 6:08:00 PM2 votes

why do they let people under 30 post... ugh. ok ok ok... i'm not going to ask the sarcastic rhetorical questions like i usually do, i'm going to tell you what you did wrong. 1st, did you pick nami after they picked a support. if you did, never pick a second support, there's literally no reason for it.

2nd, you don't follow a solo laner into lane. darius needs solo lane exp to level at the same rate as his opponent, if you take up half of his exp, you're now making him level slower than his enemy, he needs his exp more than he needs your tiny nami heals.

3 you never lock right away even if it looks like you called the lane first, you call your lane, select your champion, and wait for everyone to select theirs. if you lock in right away (autolocking) then if you made a mistake or something crazy happens, you can't go back and fix it you're stuck and the game is shot to hell because you just had to lock in.

that whiner was level 6 and was playing adc teemo, so he's even newer and worse than you are. if you're going to make a post over every single shitty player you come across you're going to be spending more time here than in the game.

Samus7211/25/2015, 9:42:19 PM1 votes

So you admit that you've seen "top with heal, supports with heal, and majority of adc and heal" and you're taking me to task for choosing a healing character and healing another at the top lane?

Daay-mmn, dude. You're a leopard that changes their spots very quickly, aren't you?

What reactions specifically?

Player: "Support!" chooses nothing, chooses Garen Me: locks in Soraka Player: "I choose support first you *blank, *blank, *blank, *blankety blank!!!"

Oh, no. Two "supports" and the world is on fire. Even if Soraka is the one truly supporting by healing the team and the first player chose a tank character for their "supporting" action.

/smirk Yeah.

Mr Malrin11/25/2015, 10:04:43 PM1 votes

the "top with heal, adc with heal" etc etc is talking about summoner spells not champions with healing abilities.

but you did truly "troll" the support of blitz by picking nami 2nd pick when blitz has the "courtesy" of being first pick/lane choice. it also made that poor kassadin have to attempt to jungle since in a way you were made to go mid lane (if u did not sure) but before coming here and dogging on someone about being upset over you doing something that was technically wrong you should try and see it from their point of view. blitz by the way is a great support. he has all kinds of cc (crowd control) and that is a major part of being a support in the bot lane and in team fights. supports don't just heal or take damage, they set up their ADC during laning phase for easy kills or save the ADC from death with great heals OR great crowd control as well as being very important in team fights by either soaking a ton of damage, protecting a carry on your team (either a ability carry or a attack damage carry there are both) or by taking a key enemy out of the fight completely. now blitz can't heal you in a fight but he can control who gets by him and can grab those running away for someone on your team to kill. before saying that Blitz isn't a support character just because you click the sorting options for support and he doesn't show up. Go watch some videos on the esports youtube and you will see that there are many pro teams and regular gamers alike that have, do, and will continue to use Blitz as a support because his kit (abilities) truly do make him a very good champ for the role.

Samus7211/25/2015, 10:32:21 PM1 votes

Summoner spells for support? A one time heal with a 300 second cooldown. Nami's heal has a cooldown, at maximum, 10-12 seconds depending on her level and can heal two characters at once if cast correctly.

I do not understand some of the stringent mindsets here.

AJStarhiker11/25/2015, 10:32:41 PM1 votes

To be fair, ~26 is around the transition point from 2-1-2 comps to 1-1-2-jungle comps. That's when players start seeing the runes/masteries to be able to survive jungling. Having two supports isn't trolling and, in some cases, may even be the smart choice.

Trying to force a pro meta when the players may not understand why that meta works isn't necessarily the best option.

@OP: Getting reported isn't that big a deal, especially if you've done nothing to warrant a punishment. The popup warning is simply letting you know you've gotten a recent spike in reports. It's not a notice that you're about to be punished. And since you're still <30, it doesn't take much to trigger a warning.

Stay classy, and you won't have to worry about the occasional false report.

Samus7211/25/2015, 11:20:11 PM1 votes

Well, ex-CUSE me for typos. "Choose" is what I meant to type. You don't have a lot of room to take me to task on one mistyped word when you don't demonstrate a superior style of grammar yourself.

I'm not budging on this. You can "support" your lane all you want. That doesn't make you a support character. If you heal and / or shield other teammates, I consider you "support." Helping someone in your lane is aiding them. You can call that support if you want.

When I choose a support character, I'm there to heal or buff you in some manner. If you don't like that, that's too damn bad, pal. And if you're going to be immature about it and cuss me out or AFK in the base like (an even bigger immature action, if you ask me,) you're getting reported. I'll still be playing and you won't be.

Too. Bad.

fatherdarius11/25/2015, 7:37:04 AM1 votes

Winos gonna drinkGragas, and whiners gonna whineEzreal .

Thanks for sharing. Sometimes you're the catch, sometimes you're the bait.Nami

Mr Malrin11/26/2015, 2:05:23 AM1 votes

ok last post here as you apparently only take everything anyone says as being negative to you.

Now to the task at hand. you say that support is one that does either a heal, shield or buff. yet RIOT themselves have Anivia Ashe Fiddlesticks Heimerdinger (but I suppose his passive that grants additional hp5 is technically in your version of support) Syndra Zyra in their list as "supports". Yet none of this shy of Heimer can do anything to an ally in any way that fits into your definition of a "support".

RIOT defines support as such:

Support

These champions provide lots of utility and set up teams to succeed with practical skills, such as heals, shields, stuns, and more. They often set the stage to lay traps and avoid ambushes, and depend on teammates to deal the majority of the damage

Now, either you are right and RIOT has absolutely no clue what a support is or you are just saying that your way is the only one that's correct so that you can try and justify trolling the Blitzcrank

Supports provide utility no matter what it is. There are many champions that can be a support just fine by RIOT's own definition that are not included in the list. Garen can be a support, he can soak a lot of damage and has a silence... that is utility. Matter of fact nearly any champion shy of ones that only do damage with no other negative side effect to an enemy technically fit the definition, RIOT and most of LOL players can agree that there are probably around 80 different champions that can actually support if played properly without taking ADC kills during laning phase and still provide utility to their lane and team.

By RIOT's own definition TwistedFate could support and be fine as long as he didn't go aggressive and take kills. He has a stun, can poke well, has a see every enemy Ult (utility even if he don't use the teleport) and can be used to peel mages/adc's away from a fight during team engages.

But lets go back to something you said:

When I choose a support character, I'm there to heal or buff you in some manner.

If the Blitzcrank goes bot lane to be the lane aid (as you put it) how exactly are you going to support anyone when you have to take a lane yourself? The fact that your team won is simply because you and everyone else in that game were pre-30. 10 people with no clue what to really do anything can happen. Had you been in a post-30 ranked game I am willing to bet that even if your team would win after trolling the support you would have gotten 4 reports against you and be enjoying a nice stress free 14 day ban.

Samus7211/25/2015, 8:30:46 PM1 votes
  • You assume a great deal.

I'm discussing this in another section of the forums, but Bltiz is NOT a support character. A tank type character "supporting" the other person in their lane by taking damage that would outright kill the DPS may be supporting their lane, but they are NOT a support character. Blitz is fulfilling their role as the tank. SUPPORT characters heal, shield, or buff the rest of the team and often do so in a way that sacrifices damage and defense. For example, no one expects Soraka to top the damage charts nor will she gain a lot of solo kills. Unless the enemy champion keeps doing something stupid like constantly standing in her Q ability. I'm not going to go any further on this discussion here. You can go to the topic I've made in the Gameplay section if you want to do that. But when someone whines that I locked in, I did so because I've decided what character I want to play and I'm not changing my mind. If I wanted to change to something else, I would have not locked in. As for your question of whether or not he had chosen "support," all he did was type "support" in the chat box. The guy had not even chosen a character before I had selected Nami and locked in.

  • If you are upset that you lose a little bit of XP because someone intent on healing you is in your lane, then you are a complete idiot. I will gladly give up a little gold and XP to have someone in the same heal casting heals. They longer I'm alive, the better. But I suppose that everyone thinks it is a much better idea to have their health whittled down to the point that they must hearth back to the base and allow the enemy to free shot the lane turrets because you're way too slow to get back in to position before the turret is heavily damaged or destroyed. By the way, when that happens is usually when players start saying "Well, gg, time to give up" (another of my favorite things.)

  • What is this "The world is over and all is lost because you locked in" crap? Because that is what it is: crap!! And you're pointing out that he made a bad character and position choice just adds more credence to my argument by also making him out to be a hypocrite. Whether I or he played better is all academic at this point. Our team won the game!! Does it matter who did what?

I have as much right to vent on observed stupidity as anyone. So, if I want to come to the forums and sound off, I absolutely can. But I suppose that you think it would be better to immediately queue up again and, because I'm distracted by the events of the previous game, play at less than 100% thereby not doing my best for THAT team.

Why don't you shove it, pal? You're no better than that other guy.

Samus7211/25/2015, 9:09:18 PM1 votes

If someone gives up defense and attacking to heal / shield you, you should be more appreciative of that.

But the bottom line is If you're going to cuss them out for it, you're a jerk and you should be reported every time. And if I see that, whether it is "deserved" or not, I'll report you. I hope it was worth it.