From a Banned Player - Thinking About Your Actions

Reaper Review··34 votes·4,680 views

(PSA to anyone reading this thread: Use Discussion View. Half the posts make little sense without knowing who they were responding to.)

I'm writing this not to try and gain or change anything (I'm well aware that that doesn't happen), but to provide myself with a sense of closure and a better understanding of myself, as well as potentially letting other people know to appreciate what they have and not to squander it.

I was banned a little over a month ago, and have spent this time trying to move on from the game. Let me tell you, it's not as easy as it seems, especially when you've made friends in the game (this actually does happen, believe it or not). If you think you might have any sort of attitude problem, stop and think about if it's really worth gambling your account. If you truly want to remain here, then work at it.

Reform is about more than just saying you'll do better. It's about understanding why you acted the way you did, and how to combat it. Someone who truly is self-centered and egotistical has to follow a different path than someone who lacks confidence in themselves, sparking rage. Understanding this is the first, and perhaps the most important, step to improvement.

I acted the way I did because I lost faith in my own ability, set arbitrary expectations for myself, and fell apart when I didn't meet them. I forgot to have fun and relax, which is what video games are for in the first place. Doing badly or losing doesn't have to be a bad thing. It's first and foremost a learning experience.

I understand that I said some inappropriate things. More than that, though, I understand why I did so, and the steps I need to take to change that and myself. It was thanks to the friends who stuck by me through my troubled times that I was able to open my eyes and see what was really important. I owe them a lot, more than I could ever repay.

If you're not banned, it's not too late. It never is. Never forget that. Having lost my account myself, I can tell you it really isn't worth it if you do enjoy this game to any capacity.


Thank you to everyone, both players and devs, who provided me with a fun and engaging game over these years, even if I spent the past year too clouded in doubt to truly appreciate it.

95 Comments

PbJMpP4xzk5 votes

from a real perma banned player here (player from the beta) i don't have any regrets about anything i said yes the majority of peoples here are stupid and telling them should be considered as an helping hands, the only thing im ashamed of is the fact that i couldn't carry 4 heavy retards on my shoulders every game and finaly aspire to get rid of them for good and have to team up with people like me everytime that would be called league of heaven.

edit: also you were a bad feeder so i am glad you got banned

MasterSomething8 votes

Telling people they are stupid isn't helping. What the fuck is wrong with you?

PbJMpP4xzk1 votes

you don't tell them they are stupid right off the bat you try to educated them and show them and explain them after awhile you understand there is nothing to do with them whatever method you try and just plain stupid so you tell them at least you help them understand a lil more thier nature.

MasterSomething8 votes

That comment hurt my head trying to read it. Should I insult you for no reason now?

Xyrei2 votes

Don't drop to his level. I have a permanent ban becuase I did what you are doing now, someone calls me an idiot and I would feel the need to respond, Its worth it to just ignore him.

MasterSomething2 votes

I generally ignore assholes like this, don't worry. If I am in danger of punishment, Rioters will gladly tell me. If I am offending anyone on the boards/breaking the rules, Arbiters will tell me. But thanks for looking out for me.

Linthe8 votes

{quoted}

from a real perma banned player here (player from the beta) i don't have any regrets about anything i said yes the majority of peoples here are stupid and telling them should be considered as an helping hands, the only thing im ashamed of is the fact that i couldn't carry 4 heavy retards on my shoulders every game and finaly aspire to get rid of them for good and have to team up with people like me everytime that would be called league of heaven.

edit: also you were a bad feeder so i am glad you got banned

Solid perma ban on your acccount. Off you go...

DArkStryke1 votes

And yet people hovering on this forum taunting perma banned players are the true shining beacons of justice on the internet.

Linthe2 votes

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And yet people hovering on this forum taunting perma banned players are the true shining beacons of justice on the internet.

What you see as taunting, I see as enjoying the karma

Photos of Ghosts1 votes

Yes.

Elphrihaim1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Photos of Ghosts,realm=EUW,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=L76T1Taa,comment-id=0004000200010001,timestamp=2016-03-29T14:02:10.935+0000)

Yes.

If you mean this literally then I must disagree; taunting other players is completely unacceptable. It's really negative behavior that accomplishes nothing and only fosters anger and double-plus-uncouth attitudes.

(and by "double-plus-uncouth" I mean "much worse than uncouth")

GodKing Thumper8 votes

And here we have a good and happy reason for you getting banned yourself. You're a negative person and have little respect for others. You didn't deserve to be part of the league community. You've done us a favor. :)

Elphrihaim1 votes

[lelwrongness]

edit2: there used to be a post here

i replaced it with "[lelwrongness]" since the post itself was wrong

because discussion view is anathema to my existence.

GodKing Thumper3 votes

Not sure if you're confused. Let me clarify. My comment was directed at PbJMpP4xzk. The OP, in my opinion has done a great job of reforming, and I'm honestly proud of him/her. I understand that getting permabanned is heartbreaking, but with those that even after getting banned don't change, that's when I'm happy to have them gone. Sorry for the confusion.

OP, keep your chin up, and thank you for teaching those of us that have points to work on a good example of how todo so. :) ❤️

Reaper Review4 votes

{quoted}

Not sure if you're confused. Let me clarify. My comment was directed at PbJMpP4xzk. The OP, in my opinion has done a great job of reforming, and I'm honestly proud of him/her. I understand that getting permabanned is heartbreaking, but with those that even after getting banned don't change, that's when I'm happy to have them gone. Sorry for the confusion.

OP, keep your chin up, and thank you for teaching those of us that have points to work on a good example of how todo so. :) ❤️

It's the little things like this that make reformation worthwhile.

You earn respect, and if you do it soon enough you won't lose your stuff. More people need to be aware of this.

Axis the Dragon1 votes

Er

Koko was talking about PbJ, not Reaper

Just thought I'd let you know

Reaper Review1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Axis the Dragon,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=L76T1Taa,comment-id=0004000400000001,timestamp=2016-03-24T06:34:11.022+0000)

Er

Koko was talking about PbJ, not Reaper

Just thought I'd let you know

He knows that. He just wasn't using discussion view at first, which made the first page of this topic look very strange to him due to people all responding to various comments.

Elph's a long-time friend of mine, and one of the reasons I was able to make this thread to begin with.

Axis the Dragon3 votes

Ahaha the power of Chronological View. I always use Discussion as default so I kind of forgot Chrono existed. xD

Reaper Review1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Axis the Dragon,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=L76T1Taa,comment-id=000400040000000100000000,timestamp=2016-03-25T18:30:33.506+0000)

Ahaha the power of Chronological View. I always use Discussion as default so I kind of forgot Chrono existed. xD

Discussion view can be a pain to read sometimes, especially when you start having nested quotes with their own nested quotes.

At least everything seems to have gotten sorted out, though, so everyone can get along.

Elphrihaim1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Axis the Dragon,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=L76T1Taa,comment-id=000400040000000100000000,timestamp=2016-03-25T18:30:33.506+0000)

Ahaha the power of Chronological View. I always use Discussion as default so I kind of forgot Chrono existed. xD

boooooo

booooooooooo

boooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

chronological views are the only way to have functional discussions that occur in a chronological fashion (e.g. forum posting).

/opinion

Axis the Dragon2 votes

But then you sometimes reply to the wrong person =P

Elphrihaim1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Axis the Dragon,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=L76T1Taa,comment-id=00040004000000010000000000010000,timestamp=2016-03-26T19:43:59.994+0000)

But then you sometimes reply to the wrong person =P

But... but if everybody used the real view, then that would never be a problem.

If quotes triggered alerts independent of if they were given as "replies", then that too would never be a problem.

See: every other forum e.g. any XenForo

Axis the Dragon1 votes

Lmao idk

In my defense I don't use forums much

Photos of Ghosts1 votes

WHY would you force everyone to read over and over the same comments by needing to quote them everytime. It's rude.

Elphrihaim1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Photos of Ghosts,realm=EUW,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=L76T1Taa,comment-id=00040004000000010000000000010001,timestamp=2016-03-29T13:56:27.826+0000)

WHY would you force everyone to read over and over the same comments by needing to quote them everytime. It's rude.

Because it is also rude to make a comment that has zero context on whom you are replying to.

I mean, just looking at your other posts just below this one in this thread, I cannot deduce what post you are referring to without switching to a view that gives me headaches to look at.

So no, I feel I'm being perfectly polite to everybody who actually uses a proper forum and that you're being rude to me.

Do you see the coin here?

DArkStryke1 votes

Therein lies the problem. Self-anointed arbiters who think they can decide who is allowed to have an account and who isn't. Your glass house will come down in a multitude of shards, and your moral high ground won't save you from a game that was ruined by SJW zealotry. This company should be sued into the ground.

GodKing Thumper1 votes

I am no self-appointed anything. Lol. Nor do I "decide" who should, or shouldn't have an account. I simply appreciate it when Riot does us all a favor and removes toxic people from the community, thus making the community better and less toxic. I also have no moral high ground that you speak of. I quite simply just take pride in the fact that I follow the summoners code and try to make this game enjoyable for everyone, even if I'm having a bad time. My pretty little glass house, as you called it, will remain nice and whole so long as I keep my attitude in a positive place, and as long as I continue making the community a better place. Hence the reason that I still have my account, and have yet to be punished for anything. There's a reason that the report button exists, and thankfully in the instance of a truly toxic player, it works.

Thanks,

-Koko

OP, I had a friend read your post, and he has issues with raging a lot. He appreciates your having posted this. Thanks again. :)

Reaper Review1 votes

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OP, I had a friend read your post, and he has issues with raging a lot. He appreciates your having posted this. Thanks again. :)

I may not be able to drive myself to play a new account, but if I can help other people enjoy the game better, I guess I can make do with that.

dapositiveviking1 votes

ur house is glass waiting to be smashed

Trídent2 votes

Taric ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)‎

Photos of Ghosts1 votes
  1. What problem?
  2. Who think they can decide? Are you talking about us? we're explaining why it is already true that you can't, not deciding that you can't.
  3. There's no coming down. The downfall of his game is the aggressiveness of people like you that prevent new players from being interested, not the fact that we try to protect them.
  4. "moral high ground" if that's high for you your life must be pretty sad and empty :\ you should go out and see some nature from time to time.
  5. "ruined" we're specifically solving problems. Celebrate our victories.
  6. on what grounds? ;) you accepted to be at risk of losing your licence.
Elphrihaim1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Photos of Ghosts,realm=EUW,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=L76T1Taa,comment-id=0004000400010002,timestamp=2016-03-29T14:01:14.979+0000)

  1. What problem?

"self-anointed arbiters" is the problem that DArkStryke refers to.

  1. Who think they can decide? Are you talking about us? we're explaining why it is already true that you can't, not deciding that you can't.

No, you've completely misread that in breaking it up that way.

Their statement was "Self-anointed arbiters that think they decide who can and cannot have an account are the problem", probably in contrast to the first comment on this chain by PbJMpP4xzk, stating:

A lack of regret for their behavior and that most people are stupid and that they were ashamed that they "couldn't carry 4 heavy retards on my shoulders every game".

Your "us" and "we" here are very very annoying because you don't clearly elucidate that you have the same point as KokoShadowPaw; for the record. Unless you're like me and call yourself "us" and "we" sometimes.

[ps: I don't have a stance regarding point 3 so I didn't put a response]

  1. "moral high ground" if that's high for you your life must be pretty sad and empty :\ you should go out and see some nature from time to time.

Please don't start with the ad hominems that have zero basis in anything.

  1. "ruined" we're specifically solving problems. Celebrate our victories.

This depends on your point of view. To some, the game's enjoyment is highly damaged by the way the punishment system is done and they feel that there's not much reason behind the loss of enjoyment in this way.

  1. on what grounds? ;) you accepted to be at risk of losing your licence.

What "licence" are you talking about here?

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peaches77113 votes

{quoted}

Present evidence that you were banned.

What the hell does this have to do with anything?

TheRealBaz1 votes

{quoted}

What the hell does this have to do with anything?

he's self aware, he knows he screwed up, no perma banned person knows they screwed up

Reaper Review12 votes

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he's self aware, he knows he screwed up, no perma banned person knows they screwed up

You mean few people willingly admit that they did. There's a big difference.

62227164DEL11 votes

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Reaper Review2 votes

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Put up, or shut up. I want that evidence.

I posted what you were looking for on the first page. What more do you want?

MasterSomething3 votes

Ignore TrustworthyDude. He's not that. He's a giant jerk who supports toxics.

62227164DEL11 votes

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MasterSomething1 votes

I don't even know you in real life. Other than the fact you are right now acting like a two face pretending to be on my own side to make yourself look good. I've butted heads with you on topics before, and topics you were clearly supported the hated side in. Actually, that's putting it nicely. You were an asshole, you aren't my friend, don't call me that.

KillerSkred2 votes

OP LET MAH TEACH YOU, mute everyone as soon as the game start and pay attention to what you did wrong instead of the chat. Don't think about what your teammate could have done to save you, but think about what you coulda done yourself.

KillerSkred1 votes

oh god the grammar

Reaper Review1 votes

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OP LET MAH TEACH YOU, mute everyone as soon as the game start and pay attention to what you did wrong instead of the chat. Don't think about what your teammate could have done to save you, but think about what you coulda done yourself.

I was paying attention to what I was doing wrong. In fact, I was doing that TOO much, and beating myself up over small problems until it boiled over into me yelling angrish at everyone in-game.

That's still good advice for people who don't respond well to criticism or just don't want to risk setting themselves off, though.

DArkStryke1 votes

The only way to avoid player justice is to mute the entire game. This is what happens when SJW take over an entire company and ruin a great game in the process. Best advice in thread, tbh.

Xyrei2 votes

As a person who had the same issue as you in getting permanently suspended for being too aggressive to my teamates and not knowing when to stop and just enjoy the game, I applaud you for being able to move on. And good luck with whatever you do in your next days.

Reaper Review1 votes

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As a person who had the same issue as you in getting permanently suspended for being too aggressive to my teamates and not knowing when to stop and just enjoy the game, I applaud you for being able to move on. And good luck with whatever you do in your next days.

Thanks. I haven't decided what to do next, though. All my friends still play League mainly, and unless I made all of them start new accounts as well, I wouldn't be able to play the game with them regardless, which would put me right back where I started. I'm not sure I've truly "moved on" as much as I'd have liked, but dwelling on it does me no good either.

DArkStryke1 votes

Trust me, you'll see that there are far better games out there. A couple of weeks later and the only thing I miss about LoL is enjoying the trainwreck that is the Player Behavior team trying to justify its existence by banning a loyal customer base.

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