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Perspective on never surrendering.

NA Region xD·11/22/2018, 8:23:38 AM·12 votes·7,752 views

So I recently finished a match where the matchmaking system did a wonderful job of filling the entire enemy team with higher skill players than my own team, and we were getting slaughtered. Of course this was followed by my team spamming surrender votes from the 15 min mark all the way until the end of the match. I never surrender under any circumstance, so I clicked no as I always do, and this was followed by my team telling me that I shouldn't be allowed to hold them hostage, I'm such a troll, they can't wait to report me, etc etc etc. Is there a good portion of the community who actually believes that not giving into other players demands to surrender is trolling? I mean the whole point in having a voting system in the first place is to make it so that 4/5ths of the team must want to surrender. I find it amusing/disturbing because they just flame me the rest of the match, AFK in fountain and buy 6 tears. While I'm left 1v5 or 2v5 for the last 10 mins or so. I do report them for AFK/griefing/giving up/harassment/ETC, but I am always amazed that I am made out to be the bad guy for never quitting.

    This issue stems from people who believe that playing a losing game is a waste of time, and that the moment your team falls into a significant deficit, you should  surrender to maximize time efficiency and hurry up and get into the next winnable match. I disagree with the premise that the only purpose or fun in a game is playing it when it is winnable, losing is part of the process and I don't agree with the mindset of obsessing over climbing and rushing out of losing matches so you can hurry up and win again. That's just my two cents on the topic, and I would like to know other players thoughts on this and if I am in the minority here.

100 Comments

sleepysithlord11/23/2018, 7:01:27 PM5 votes

Unless you are doing well/ can articulate a convincing win con, then yes you are holding them hostage.

Inkling Commando11/22/2018, 8:55:29 AM3 votes

hell yeah! welcome to the no surrender side of the river my buddy. over here we don't care about anything except having fun and playing the game to the end. there is a fed yi? who cares. the enemy has both baron and elder? whatever. there is a feeder/troll/flamer on the team? play around them. we don't surrender at all. the losers on the surrender side of the river can cry and spam ff over small things all they want. while we enjoy the game and play regardless of the outcome.

serious talk. i only play norms where winning and losing mean jack shit and when a team wants to ff cause they are losing why should they care? there is no risk or reward for winning or losing. they just need to play the game. if they want to focus on actually winning they should go play ranked. league should not be different from any other game out there. do you see people surrendering in chess or whatever? no. so why should you surrender on league? it just seems stupid. and the cherry on top is there is no penalty for spamming ff so players can spam it all they want with no fear on punishment. (but if i am pissed off enough i will report the person who started the surrender vote and accuse them of grieving and giving up, which is the very definition of surrender)

Sillae11/22/2018, 2:28:28 PM3 votes

If 4/5 people want to surrender it's just kind of a jerk move not to let them surrender. It's not all about you y'know.

Modl Ryden l11/22/2018, 8:39:39 PM3 votes

LMFAO

When people say they're being held hostage. I sit there and think:

"Bruh, wtf?? What's stopping you from just disconnecting all together? If you wanna leave so bad, please be my guest. You'll just be another banned account IMO and the less of you there are in my MMR bracket, the better."

Like. Fuck. Off. With the "held hostage" excuse. Clicking the 'Play Now' button is a sort of contract or agreement that you are willing to invest 20 to 40 minutes in a match. Like for fuck sake it's a 40 minute commitment, tops, jeez louise. You're not being held hostage you fat fuck!

Keep doing what you're doing OP. Never give up, never surrender! Let's this LP!

LetMeCarry198311/22/2018, 7:59:02 PM3 votes

You are a troll as far as I'm concerned.

Frantic childe11/23/2018, 12:17:38 PM3 votes

if 4 of 5 want to surrender , just surrender... you actually waste their time

C9 Aphrolift11/23/2018, 12:11:35 AM2 votes

I think you should be allowed to vote how you want to vote.

Also, I think players who flame someone for the rest of the match, afk in the fountain and/or buy/stack tears should receive increasingly scaling punishments.

Either way you're wasting time playing a game. It's about how you choose to waste it. If you never play "losing" positions, then how do you know what the threshold is for a come back win? If your nexus hasn't exploded you can still win. And if it takes another 5,10,15 minutes you'll be able to hit the play again button in most circumstances(yes, there could be a patch incoming but you can play again when the patch is done). It's okay.

Mynti Terra8/24/2019, 9:13:36 PM1 votes

I never surrender. It's not fun for either side. I've played AMAZING GAMES, but the the enemy team surrenders, so it doesn't feel as fulfilling. Not fun for either side.

zoliking11/27/2018, 8:03:27 PM1 votes

In ranked never surrendering is the correct call. In normals trapping your team in a lost game is one of the worst forms of trolling, you are wasting their time and XP by doing so and without absolutely any justification. Don't troll, click yes on lost games in normals.

SonicAF11/22/2018, 8:43:22 AM1 votes

The time efficiency and "winnable match" argument is completely bollocks because as long as the enemy team is not finishing you off in the next 5 minutes, there is a reasonable chance that you can recover. Wasting that chance if one person thinks it should be taken is working against the goal of the game(destroying the enemy nexus) and promoting negative attitude, which is why current surrender system is actively harmful and has to be reworked or even scrapped.

Just pointing that out.