Honor Leveling is impossible for those who are punished

Bansheenoir·10/10/2017, 8:30:26 PM·1 votes·416 views

So let's say I was punished for flaming and inting a game where a premade 4 intentionally banned all of my picks and trolled me for 2 games straight. And I know retaliating isn't right according to Dorito. So yes, I did my time and got back. However, after 3 months of grinding for honor(playing supp) and reforming, I have yet to see an honor level go up.

So I wish to know anyone still stuck in this system?

P.S. So I am guessing there is no incentive to reform?

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Chermorg10/10/2017, 8:40:17 PM3 votes

There's a couple reasons you may not be increasing in honor. I've included Rioter quotes below that back up these claims:

You may be getting validly reported but just not at a high enough level to get punished. If you are being reported validly and the system confirms it, but it's at a level that doesn't quite merit a punishment, you may climb much slower.
You may just not be playing enough games over time and getting enough honor to go up

It could also be a combination of those two things.

Quotes:

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Penalties are the only things that will drop your honor level. A toxic premade all falsely reporting you will not affect your honor level in any way. However, keep in mind, our systems are watching for good behavior on the whole for players to increase in level. If you're flaming and being negative towards your team (but not toxic enough to get punished), you might not drop in honor level, but you probably won't climb fast either.

emphasis mine

{quoted}

We didn't want to anchor people on the "grind" to honor levels. By not having progress indicators, we wanted to root the reinforcement for being sportsmanlike on the feedback you get from other players (the honors), not any artificial motivation from being "close to the next level".

Our behind-the-scenes systems which determine honor level ups aren't simple. The types of calculations we do to determine if a player is ready to level up take into account their holistic behavior across many games, and don't lend themselves well to being surfaced in an "XP bar"-style system. Anything we surface here could also warp behavior around trying to "minmax" the most honor points, which really refocuses it away from the point of the Honor system - play good games and you'll make progress.

We wanted to have a few discrete levels in Honor, since bloating the number would make each feel less meaningful. However, we wanted players to progress over the course of a season or half-season, which means that progress to the next level would necessarily be fairly slow. We didn't think it would be a great experience to reinforce this through some progress indicator.

emphasis mine

DrCyanide10/10/2017, 10:15:27 PM2 votes

I saw someone post fairly recently that they were eligible to earn Honors again, so I'm prone to agree with Chermorg that there's something you're doing that they weren't.

The Skull King10/10/2017, 10:11:10 PM1 votes

no incentive to reform

So what's the incentive to being toxic in the first place? What prize did you get for being toxic?

I mean should you be rewarded for having to reform in the first place or should you been for not being toxic at all.