Giving advice is toxic now. Really enjoying every minute of this game Che-yeaaaaaa!!

ROFLMFAO LOOOL·4/7/2018, 6:51:45 AM·4 votes·390 views

EDIT 1: Also please give an upvote if you agree or a downvote if you disagree. I honestly want to know where this community is headed. If you think I was completely wrong and an utter fool smash that downvote button if not and upvote would greatly be appreciate so I can understand everyone's point of view.

Just had a 15min argument with some random person in a low level game who's a smurf that told our team to "just mute yas (me) and report" after i gave constructive feedback to our botlane who consisted of a jinx and janna, vsing jinx and teemo. I specifically said "if enemy jinx is playing agro and its the two of you in lane be careful because teemo may be hiding in the lane or bush, just a tip". That was all i said, and this Irelia had the audacity to say mute yas.

Post-game I added her and asked her if giving people tips is toxic. I mean I wasn't giving them useless tilt-worthy advice of "stop dying", "get better cs" or "play safer". I gave legitimate advice and this Irelia flipped the entire thing on its back calling me out like that. We had a lengthy argument which i unfortunately couldn't couldn't document because they unfriended be after, but to sum it up:

Irelia's argument: Giving people advice tilts them and you have a higher chance of winning games if you just stop talking. She kept going back and forth between people in low elo will feed and people in high elo don't care. She even said that they have small egos (which i think she really wanted to say big ego". And i comet ply agree with that people do in fact have big egos and think that it's either their way or they int.

^^ I completely understand but I wasn't forcing my views or advice down someones throat if they take it or not that is 100% up to them if they flame me for it i could careless and I'll stop talking to them. If they take it then great we have a shot at winning this game. However i still do not seem to get why she made me look like the bad guy until I asked if it she was doing it to coax the player and make them feel like what they have been doing is perfectly fine. And she agreed to it.

This here is what made me even more upset. First I can't give constructive feedback in fear of someone running it down mid, and if I do I have to sugar coat everything. The Irelia gave me the impression that if you want to give someone advice you have to do this:

talking to a player who keeps dying to the same mistake over and over again or misses farm under tower when they don't know that melee minions take 3 shots, mages take 2 etc

"Hey dude, you're playing amazing, have you every thought of trying out for the LCS, but just a small itsy bitsy thing for you that will make you unstoppable and get you a pentakill and the best player on the planet. Hell, you probably already know this cause you're that smart but if you want to get the farm under the tower maybe, just maybe, slight chance that if you let the tower hit the melee twice then you attack and the mage once then you attack you can get 10 cs per minute! :smiley face": :Ex Dee: But you probably already know what I'm talking about what am I even saying haha!."

First of all that's a bloody essay with a thesis, introduction, middle and concluding paragraphs. Second of all if I have to talk to players like this in 0.00001% of my games I'll fucking lose it, and I already am which is why I'm writing this. I volunteer and work with children and even I don't talk to them like this because they aren't this spoiled or narrow minded, CHILDREN for crying out loud!

I can't read everyones mind, if people don't want advice after I've already given it then I'll just stop but you can't just say to mute them and report for being toxic, when they aren't and make them look like the bad guy.

I'll try to read any comments down below and reply to the best of my ability

7 Comments

Shukr4n4/7/2018, 6:55:31 AM1 votes

I agree about the snowflake part. But since it was blind, who cares...really..its a lost cause..

Nubulas4/7/2018, 12:13:56 PM1 votes

using chat for any reason is a bannable offense. you can move chat right off the screen because the mute all resets every game and you have to keep doing it over.

Just push chat off the screen, done nothing constructive is ever said in chat

Venompaw4/7/2018, 2:04:13 PM1 votes

I don't care if I offend unreasonable people.

Negativity4/7/2018, 6:25:59 PM1 votes

Upvoted however I have given advice to people who ASKED because I’m a D1 player from last season. And the guy got mad st me when I told him how to improve his lane phase on his one trick Shen top. He’s actually called me a retard because he failed to proform wave freezes/stacked pushes etc things I had shown him for top lane on his first go and apparently that’s my fault.. Anyways players are not worth educating in my opinion unless they are receptive to you, or a friend.

I know a ton about the game but I actually won’t speak I’m low Elo games, I’ll ping for key objectives but I never give advice unless it’s like “ oh dang we can’t fight right now this other guy is strong” like passive stuff like that normally works for me (support main) and ya

I agree with you, I know you want to help but just mute morons esp smurfs, 90% of low level smurfs are perma banned dudes and low Elo players tryna destroy noobs

“I don’t care if I offend unreasonable people” great quote by the other poster, good advice also