Fairness in Punishment

The Ecdysiast·4/27/2016, 10:45:12 PM·3 votes·517 views

#The 4-step method is close, but I'm simply suggesting they enact permanent ban to chatting IF/UNTIL that player starts to intentionally feed.

Intentional feeding should be permabanned regardless of whether or not you've been chat restricted or even ever used chat. Chat punishments should be not be connected to gameplay punishments. If it just so happens you've already been chat banned, and you start to ruin games by going Disco Nunu then you'll be punished for that accordingly--unrelated to the previous chat ban.

If they don't start intentionally feeding, then there's no reason to ban the account. They don't ever get to make friends or curse at people because of the chat ban, and that's the price they pay. --and Riot still gets their business.

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Deep Terror Nami4/27/2016, 10:50:21 PM6 votes

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We're considering full mute options, but the true toxic players tend to just intentionally feed or do other toxic things instead.

Prior to the 4-step punishment system adopted late last year, chat restrictions would stack infinitely, essentially being permanent for those that didn't change. It did not stop them from abusing their limited chat, and also resulted in some of them resorting to other toxic behavior.

If temporary punishments (chat restriction, 14 day ban) is enough to reform a player, then they won't get permabanned. It's only when they think the punishments are a joke and pay them no heed that there is no choice but to remove them from the community. If a permaban is too much, you'd think they would stop short of it.

Ap Mid Burst4/27/2016, 10:48:27 PM5 votes

They tried, but the person who is chat bans turns their toxicity into trolling.

redniwediS4/27/2016, 10:50:51 PM3 votes

Or no? Why should they let someone play if they cannot responsibly use chat? Why allow a verbal abuser the ability to play?

You're separating the issue into two distinct categories when it is not required. Terrible people get punished and removed from the game. It doesn't matter if they abuse their team or if they intentionally feed, it they cannot show respect to other human beings they do not get to play.

It's not about the crime, it's about the mindset behind it. That is what is being punished.

FrankerX4/27/2016, 11:26:48 PM1 votes

tbh i gotta agree.

and if they start to feed after being perma-chatbanned the "super awesome feedbuster" should permaban them?

Reaper Review4/28/2016, 12:16:23 AM1 votes

I've never intentionally fed and have no intention of ever doing so. I've had my share of bad games, though, and in fact it was my perceiving myself as bad that set me off and got me banned anyway. That's neither here nor there, though.

It's unfortunate that their previous attempt at this didn't work out, but that's how it is.

Fovere4/28/2016, 3:50:15 AM1 votes

I find that communication is an integral part of both good gameplay and fun for League.

While it seems to me that banning people from chat is going to make them feel more distanced from the rest of their team and increase the likelihood of trolling when they are frustrated.