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OccupyRanked·3/14/2017, 7:05:51 PM·1 votes·1,124 views

After reading about the successful supports who ran smite in diamond Elo and got banned, and reading riots own reasoning for banning said support players, I have a growing concern over my ability to have fun and enjoy this game as a support main.

From what I have read, Riots stance is that if your team tells you it doesn't want the support to play a certain way, that support MUST conform to the wishes of the team(even if it's just one or two loudmouth fools). My concern is that Riot has begun to actually pivot towards CATERING to toxic players that ruin the game, and their recent permabans over smite singed and smite nunu have empowered the very members of this community who ruin the game to be even more vocal in flaming/reporting teammates who do not play their way.

In the process, in many ways they are stunting the evolution of the solo que meta. It would appear that if I stumble upon a new way to be successful, or a unique style that improves my ability to play, and my teammates are not "up on game" so to speak, that I am forced to abandon what makes me happy and successful to placate someone who is closed minded and negative.

With this in mind, I find myself enjoying this game much less than when I started in season 4, and am running out of reasons to continue playing the game that actually brought me back to of gaming after 8 years of absentia.

Hopefully your tribunal will rethink their logic and allow players to play their way, regardless of what toxic teammates think, as long as they demonstrate a consistent ability to deliver success or individual improvement with said play style/ build.

25 Comments

AeroWaffle3/14/2017, 7:31:10 PM1 votes

In both the Singed support case and the Nunu support case, they consistently forced their ADC to be by themselves for almost the entire laning phase. Regardless of the ADC's or the team's wishes.

We're not talking about, "occasionally they do this". It was almost every single time they queued up or got placed in the support role.

You talk about how it's unhealthy to force the support player to play a certain way. Well, that's what they were doing to the ADC every single time; forcing them to solo lane vs 2. There was no negotiation, the ADC had to deal with it and that's that.

I doubt very much that if you simply asked if your team was fine playing around your play-style that they would always say "no". At the very least, make sure the ADC, your lane partner, is okay with you playing some unusual style that would effect them before forcing it down their throat.

EvilDustMan3/14/2017, 7:38:13 PM1 votes

They were both assholes about forcing their one trick on their team.

How to not get banned: Don't be an asshole.

OccupyRanked3/14/2017, 7:59:57 PM1 votes

Just a thought, but how about instead of banning these successful players for being different, you simply add a system were players can ban themselves from being sued with specific players, this way, if someone plays a way you don't agree with, you can choose to not be paired with them anymore? I think that solution would be most effective at pleasing ALL parties involved. Period.

Zombiemaster3/14/2017, 8:20:00 PM1 votes

and their recent permabans over smite singed and smite nunu have empowered the very members of this community who ruin the game to be even more vocal in flaming/reporting teammates who do not play their way

Okay, I don't really want to talk about the bans of these two players, but I do want to clarify one thing. Neither the support Nunu nor the support Singed players were permanently banned. The Singed player received a 14 day ban, and if I recall correctly a threat of a permanent ban, which I believe Riot later stated was out of line. The Nunu player had also received a 14 day ban, not a permanent ban, though with everything that happened afterward, Riot lifted the ban early and are now reevaluating how they approach such cases.

ModThe Djinn3/14/2017, 8:26:07 PM1 votes

{quoted}Riot's stance is that if your team tells you it doesn't want the support to play a certain way, that support MUST conform to the wishes of the team.

Actually, Riot's official stance hasn't come out yet. Both those bans were, to my knowledge, lifted, and Riot has stated they're having meetings about the issue so that they can figure out how they want to officially address the issue. Meddler talks about it here.

Kei1433/14/2017, 10:24:30 PM1 votes

did you know that they unbanned the Nunu?

Telephone Booth3/15/2017, 10:49:44 PM1 votes

Just a couple misleading things you said that I have to kind of clarify...

Riot isn't catering to toxic players. Toxicity has nothing to do with it. If someone goes off meta and the other guy is toxic, the toxic person will still get punished. We all know Riot has a strong stance against toxicity.

Also you said that if someone doesn't want you to play support a certain way, you must conform. I think it's more if they don't want you to play off meta. That would be a more accurate way of stating that. The way you say it sounds misleading. If someone says play sona, but you pick taric with exhaust, riot would never ever punish you, because taric and exhaust are meta.

I get your point, but the way you state things are a little misleading and make you sound quite bias. Like you have an agenda against Riot and you are willing to use misleading tactics to sway people's opinions. It's like politician tactics, which we all hopefully find deplorable.