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Bans and permabans and the physiological effect it has on players

DarkAssasssin·9/5/2017, 5:36:06 PM·2 votes·771 views

My friend was just banned for 14 days for three different chats and they go like this

The first one he was 100% being toxic out of frustration which happens to nearly everyone, not so much for some a lot for others who have less control of self.
The second one he expressed his feelings of victory over all chat, therefor they revenge reported him (enemy team)
The third one was because his internet connection was lagging so the entire team reported him.

End result gets a 14 day ban and this is what he told me

'I'll never buy riot points why would i invest my money on some thing that relies on toxic people reporting toxic people to permanently ban players' 'I will also never take this game seriously because of the same reason' 'what stops trolls from starting a new account to silently troll people and get them angry enough for them to explode in chat then report them?'

I agree with him, there's just so many holes in this system of ban/permabans . Can't wait to see the repercussion of their intervention of something that has been going on since the very beginning. Wait till the trolls start making accounts just to get people reported . sounds like fun eh? I can already see the backfire Thoughts?

35 Comments

Hellioning9/5/2017, 5:42:49 PM11 votes

Post the logs. Because you don't get chat restrictions or time bans for lagging.

And if someone gets a 14 day ban, either their chat was really bad, or they already went through 2 chat restrictions before hand. In either case, they should realize that is not acceptable.

archerno19/5/2017, 5:52:49 PM7 votes

Your friend is a liar

ModWulf Helhammer9/5/2017, 5:43:12 PM5 votes

You can't be punished for something you didn't do. Reports don't do anything by themselves.

AFK and DCs are handled by the Leaverbuster system, not reports. So if that game was provided in chat logs, he was also toxic in that game.

And do you see why people say not to respond to trolls? What's the good it's going to do?

Aseeraa9/5/2017, 6:59:03 PM3 votes

Point in case: Riot's system has vastly improved and will keep on improving.

If you are banned for 14 days, you are the minority. You have a problem and unless you do some serious work on yourself to find what sets you off and avoid/deal with that, you are just going to be that person that has multiple accounts because you can't get along with people in a video game and probably IRL as well.

YerroFever9/5/2017, 5:52:49 PM2 votes

The system is flawed, however, you have to think about a few things:

System correctly identified this game
Without chatlogs, I cannot say whether or not the system correctly identified this game
Your friend has to have had a history of leaving games for him to be punished for disconnecting. The system has no way of knowing if your ISP is actually down or if you're just unplugging your modem to appear to have internet problems. I actually had this problem with Verizon and I have been punished for Verizon actually having awful horrible internet problems and when I switched ISP's and my service improved, I was never bothered by leave buster again.

Nahui9/5/2017, 6:02:33 PM2 votes

Anyone can troll easily. The system can't be perfect unless it prohibits and bans non-pro level meta play. I could pick Soraka ADC and troll just by doing that. Only way to fix that is to ban non meta picks. I could build rabadon's on Zed to troll. Only way to prevent that is to ban all zed's who build an AP item. Suddenly the game becomes some authoritarian platform that rigidly enforces one meta, but at least it's impossible to troll.

The system goes for unnecessary verbal toxicity and blatant gameplay toxicity. And rightfully so. Your friend was 100% toxic the first game, you said so yourself. Out of frustration, sure, and does everyone do it sometimes? No. I don't, and that's why my highest ever penalty was one 20 minute wait period because once I was playing a steam game while in queue and just kept missing the queue, even after the 5 minute penalty because League wasn't tabbing me me out when it popped. It's possible not to be toxic, but toxic people seem to think that emotional outbursts are a given and excusable. Control your emotions. It may be an excuse in real life, I understand. Heat of the moment, someone calls you a retard and punches you in the stomach, you aren't expected to wait, think it through, and decide on a better course of action. You probably get angry and attack. But over the computer, he had to pause his gameplay to type something out, thinking it out before hand even if slightly. That's not him forced to be toxic, that's him wanting to be toxic. Emotionally driven, but still not an immediate, uncontrollable reaction.

Second one you seemed to have worded very....nicely. Expressed his feelings of victory. Now to me, and to many others I'm sure, this means something along the lines of "GG, we win!" or "GG ez". You know? You won, you feel good, you had to make sure the enemy knew you won. But, I think I say ggez about every match I win to be honest. I haven't gotten so much as a warning. This leads me to believe that your friend may have used some stronger language, also unnecessary? Maybe along the lines of "You're all trash, I'm better." "Uninstall" etc. It's not that these words are hurtful. It's that there's no reason in saying them besides being a douche and that deserves a ban. He won the game, good for him, he gets NOTHING from letting the enemy team know that he thinks they're bad.

And reported for lag? Doesn't happen. If he disconnected maybe, but this isn't a one time thing. 14 days comes from many offenses.

Sounds like your friend deserved everything he got.

Drugoth9/6/2017, 3:34:57 PM1 votes

I think maybe you meant psychological rather than physiological. Physiology pertains to the physical body, whereas psychology deals with feelings and emotions in the brain.

Just thought I should clear this up for you.

[slayer-jinx-wink]

BerylCrab9/5/2017, 5:57:16 PM1 votes

if you want to see the effects this is having, just make a new account and play some blind pick games.

UsamahBinZilean9/6/2017, 2:31:38 PM1 votes

Yeah, I agree, Riot are extremely biased. I got a 14 day ban for being toxic in 2 games. 1 game, I was totally being toxic, that was my fault, however in another game, I was being toxic due to another player on MY TEAM saying shit to me like "You dirty Muslim" just because of my name, and continued throughout the game. So instinctively, I reacted back with some mild insults, because obviously, I ain't gonna accept that someone is discriminating my religion. And guess who riot ban... that's right, me. And the player who was being racist consistently, did not get banned. This shows that riot is so fking biased, they really need to step up on their equality.