Riot doesn't care about us or our feelings AT ALL.
They couldn't give a shit less that this toxic environment breeds incredible frustration and they don't care at all about the players who've tried really hard to turn their behavior around.
I was legitimately courteous and kind to my team for MONTHS, and one single day of MILD COMPLAINING got me a permanent ban which means any attempt to reform oneself means NOTHING if you slip up for one day. Reform doesn't mean anything of substance for Riot. They don't care. You fuck up ONE TIME after MONTHS of doing right by your team mates and it's all down the drain.
These people are ban happy. They know they have in their hands the power to instantly make worthless ALL of the hours and time and effort and money we've poured into our accounts.
They hand out perma bans like candy on halloween these days. Permabans are meant to alleviate the problems associated with the absolute most toxic people in the game who ruin games consistently for players across the life of their accounts.
Nowadays they give out arbitrary punishments in a linear line of escalation and then drop perma bans and try to claim you're part of some tiny minuscule minority of players who ruin player experiences for everyone.
**_Really Riot? I'm in that same prestigious group as the likes of Rat IRL or AP0CALYPSE or anyone else associated with L9? This behavior right here in this chat log is akin to the likes of those people? **
This permanent ban is an egregious use of the reform and punishment system!!! So much for "reform" right?_
I'd also like to point out that I didn't get the proper escalation of punishments. I was given a 2 week ban with a permaban threat after my chat restriction instead of 3 day bans or the like, how is that fair?
I submitted a live ticket, and here's the log.
(01:15:28 AM) Apex Migi: I've just logged in after a break today to a Permanently Banned reform card. I understand that I was behaving in a negative manner and I understand that it upset my team mates, but I think this ban was WAY TOO HARSH considering how mild my complaining was compared to the abuse I've received in this game over the years.
The only things I said in this chat log that should get me any kind of punishment is I said "loser" to a guy who killed me when I D/Cd, and I said "id rather kms" when I was being spam pinged to go in on a fight I didn't want to engage. Everything else was a player having a really bad day and expressing his frustrations!
Why am I not allowed to even express myself when I feel like a game is over? I still played the game out, watch the replay! I still tried to be with my team and protect my ADC and I still tried to engage for them with Alistair, I still did my best to stop this loss from happening and I complained in chat about what I felt was causing me to get so far behind in the game.
Riot, this just feels so unfair. I would happily understand a 2 week or 1 month ban or a permanent chat restriction or something like that, but a permanent ban feels like you're beating me with a baseball bat for eating a second cookie!!!
I've been verbally abused in this game to no end over the years. I've quit for months at a time and even a year one time because of the kind of toxic abuse I've received. I've been told to commit suicide, I've been told to uninstall because I'm trash when I'm trying really hard to learn and get better at the game, I've been called every name in the book twice over, I've been friend added by people whose only intent was to tell me how garbage I am in this game.
Why in the world am I not allowed to express my frustrations? I truly feel like I've been unfairly banned in this way. I understand I should be punished, I truly understand that my complaining brought my team morale down, and I could understand being chat restricted or getting a long ban, I suppose I cant argue that. But I've made a vested effort to better my behavior since my 2 week ban MONTHS ago for toxic behavior, I even got my honor back and to honor level 1 or 2 (can't remember which). I tried really hard to be a good player and not be toxic, and one bad day of games where I complained because I was frustrated got me permanently banned? After all the abuse I've received over the years, I feel like this was so mild in comparison.
PLEASE consider de-escalating this to a month long ban with a hefty chat restriction. Please Riot? I did well for a long time, and I had one bad day. I don't think this was fair. I think someone was too eager to drop the banhammer in this case.
** Here I posted the chat log you can find above. I removed it here because I think there's a character restriction on posts because I can't seem to type more above.**
(01:17:00 AM) Player Support Bot: Hey! We’re getting a ton of new chats right now. It may take upwards of 15 minutes to get to your chat, but if you sit tight we’ll help you out as soon as we can. If you’re not about that waiting in line lifestyle, you can always submit a ticket instead!
(01:19:46 AM) *** Cammy White joined the chat ***
(01:19:48 AM) Cammy White: Whats up
(01:19:53 AM) Cammy White: so much to read here bear with me
(01:20:05 AM) Apex Migi: np im not in a hurry
(01:22:56 AM) Apex Migi: For what its worth I understand why I deserve SOME punishment, but its not like I run around ruining everyones games all the time. That's not the case at all.
(01:23:38 AM) Apex Migi: I really do try to be a good player and thats reflected in my honor level. Im not a horrible person ruining games or trying to belittle people all the time.
(01:25:05 AM) Cammy White: I looked over the game and what I noticed is that you were giving up real early and saying that you are not going to help and arguing with your team, you are also using ableist slurs, and this coupled with your previous 2 week suspension is enough to warrant this penalty. From what I am seeing we will have to keep this in place
(01:25:49 AM) Apex Migi: Thats so unfair! Watch the replay, I played this game out. I still stayed with my team, and I tried to win.
(01:26:13 AM) Apex Migi: I initiated and defended my Jinx and backed up my Alistair every time he went in.
(01:27:13 AM) Apex Migi: I never afked and although I said i was going to split push I never did, I instead went with my team every timee. Like when I went with someone to defend Baron and died again. You can see from my KDA that I never stopped trying despite my complains.
(01:28:10 AM) Cammy White: Its not just that you were still playing the game, its how you went about telling your team that you were not going to help them and just bringing in more negativity into the game, we did warn you that any further negativity after your 2 week would result in this and unfortunately this penalty will have to stay
(01:28:23 AM) Apex Migi: And when I said thats retarded I was directly referencing an event, I didnt call anyone that.
(01:30:32 AM) Cammy White: Regardless of your intentions with using ableist slurs we are just not okay with this in League
(01:30:38 AM) Apex Migi: Why cant we express our frustrations in this game?
(01:30:58 AM) Apex Migi: this is an extremely competitive game.
(01:31:10 AM) Apex Migi: Ive been insulted to the point of quitting the game on multiple occasions
(01:31:14 AM) Cammy White: You can but, flaming your team or threatening to not help them is what we would consider crossing a line.
(01:31:29 AM) Apex Migi: I helped them! I stayed in the fight and game the whole time.
(01:31:32 AM) Apex Migi: Actions matter!
(01:31:37 AM) Apex Migi: I didnt flame them either
(01:31:45 AM) Apex Migi: where in here did i insult my team?
(01:31:50 AM) Apex Migi: I complained about their actions
(01:31:54 AM) Apex Migi: I never once insulted them
(01:33:43 AM) Apex Migi: I was silent and courteous to my teams for months and months after that 2 week ban. But one single bad day means those months and months of doing my best to reform my behavior mean nothing.
(01:34:21 AM) Cammy White: Again we have gone over this with you and there is not much else I can tell you about your account but I will have to go now to help other players
(01:34:49 AM) Apex Migi: You people are totally unfair. This is ridiculous and you should be ashamed of yourselves.
(01:34:59 AM) Apex Migi: Have a REAL NICE DAY
(01:36:02 AM) Cammy White: You have a good rest of your day as well
(01:36:05 AM) *** Cammy White left the chat ***
