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Not all toxic behavior should be reported

Jack Be Nimble··9 votes·690 views

So just got out of a game where someone on my team was pretty toxic. BMing and taking his/her rage out on anything and everything. At the end of the game he/she said somethings that made me decide not to report the person. They apologized. No one mentioned anything about a report being made so I felt it was a genuine apology. He/she went on and on about how they were in the wrong and what he/she did was uncalled for. I felt moved, and thought if they were human enough to apologize and see what they did was wrong, there is hope for them yet. I can't say about the rest of my team choosing not to report the person, but for me, I'm giving the person a second chance.

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ModThe Djinn7 votes

Excellent. This is why the punishment system is based on reports rather than fully automated by content: if you decide that you believe it was all in jest and not toxic enough to be unacceptable, or you believe a player had a bad day and apologized sufficiently to make you forgive them and their behavior, there is no need to report them. Sending in a report is at a player's own discretion, so I encourage you to use or not use that feature as you see fit.

Jack Be Nimble2 votes

More than grateful for this system.

Almo2 votes

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So just got out of a game where someone on my team was pretty toxic. BMing and taking his/her rage out on anything and everything. At the end of the game he/she said somethings that made me decide not to report the person. They apologized. No one mentioned anything about a report being made so I felt it was a genuine apology. He/she went on and on about how they were in the wrong and what he/she did was uncalled for. I felt moved, and thought if they were human enough to apologize and see what they did was wrong, there is hope for them yet. I can't say about the rest of my team choosing not to report the person, but for me, I'm giving the person a second chance.

Agreed. I personally report all toxic behaviors that I encounter unless I can sense a "Genuine Apology" because no one is perfect. I know I got upset a few games and may have talked more than needed but I also do know that I apologized in game and post game just because I remember this is a video game. There is also a limit to how you can forgive which depends on each case.

General Esdeath 2 votes

Yeah, me and team mates have gotten on bad terms before, and after a while we tend to apologize to each other. I don't report them and since I haven't been punished I guess they don't report me. Sometimes people just need to vent a bit I guess and get their anger out of them.

Sarutobi1 votes

I get what you are saying, but at the same time i dont think that all they would need to do is say sorry and that means all the stuff they did in game is now ok. I mean you are basically saying i can be as toxic as possible, telling you to die, using every single slur. But as long as i say sorry after the match its ok?

Jack Be Nimble5 votes

No, it's not. First off, I would like to point out that the person in no shape or form wished harm upon us. That alone, in my opinion, should be grounds for punishment. I do not take that kind of behavior lightly. Nothing one can say or do will make me refrain from filing a report against them. Second, it's not because they said "sorry", it's because in my prospective, they actually meant it. We all have off days/games where we say or do something that is in the wrong. We are human after all.

From my personal history, I've had games where I had to quit due to something unexpected coming up; ex. Cousin getting in a car wreck and me having to pick him up, or my GF at the time ordering food in my name so I have to grab it, or even something as simple as having someone come over unexpectedly. I've told my team and also the enemy team that they can all report me for AFK if they'd like. And not once have I been reported for going AFK. Why? Because they understand. Much like here, I understand that things can get irritable, even frustrating. I understand from personal experience that one can take it out on a loved one, inanimate object or even what they are currently occupied with. I understand it all. The fact that they didn't mean any harm to come from their mouth and that they gave an honest, heartfelt apology (without asking to not be reported, might I add), made me decide not to report them.

We are all human, we all make mistakes.

We can make this more clear by putting it in a real life scenario. One that we all have experienced. Someone has done you wrong and you are upset with them, but later they come back and apologize. If you felt the apology was sincere enough, you (usually) accept their apology. That's what happened in this case for me.

Sarutobi1 votes

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No, it's not. First off, I would like to point out that the person in no shape or form wished harm upon us. That alone, in my opinion, should be grounds for punishment. I do not take that kind of behavior lightly. Nothing one can say or do will make me refrain from filing a report against them. Second, it's not because they said "sorry", it's because in my prospective, they actually meant it. We all have off days/games where we say or do something that is in the wrong. We are human after all.

From my personal history, I've had games where I had to quit due to something unexpected coming up; ex. Cousin getting in a car wreck and me having to pick him up, or my GF at the time ordering food in my name so I have to grab it, or even something as simple as having someone come over unexpectedly. I've told my team and also the enemy team that they can all report me for AFK if they'd like. And not once have I been reported for going AFK. Why? Because they understand. Much like here, I understand that things can get irritable, even frustrating. I understand from personal experience that one can take it out on a loved one, inanimate object or even what they are currently occupied with. I understand it all. The fact that they didn't mean any harm to come from their mouth and that they gave an honest, heartfelt apology (without asking to not be reported, might I add), made me decide not to report them.

We are all human, we all make mistakes.

We can make this more clear by putting it in a real life scenario. One that we all have experienced. Someone has done you wrong and you are upset with them, but later they come back and apologize. If you felt the apology was sincere enough, you (usually) accept their apology. That's what happened in this case for me.

I'm just saying that how you are implying seems like all you need to do is say sorry. Hence why I said in my original post I knew what you were saying.

Jack Be Nimble1 votes

When you put it like that it seems so simple, but it's much more complicated than that. But in a sense, yes.

General Esdeath 2 votes

I don't think OP is justifying someone calling you an n-word or f-word, but if they say "This jungle is garbage" and then apologize because they're salty about being camped by the enemy jungle, s'all good.

Jack Be Nimble1 votes

Exactly.

Hèntaî 1 votes

I have never had anyone apologize after the game. They just continue to try to belittle everyone.

HalcyonDweller2 votes

And you should report those types of people.

It also helps to not interact with them in chat.

Jack Be Nimble1 votes

It's a shame when one stumbles across those types of people. It really is.

scazzman1 votes

except just imagine if your team had a report troll. "or even the enemy team, as you occasionally can get "blind" reports from the enemy team. if 1 report truly is the same as 9. 1 salty player or troll is enough to have gotten the person the OP is describing banned.

Jack Be Nimble1 votes

I cannot speak for others, only myself. I was only stating that I found the person to be civil in the end and how I chose not to contribute to his/her punishment.

I can't say about the rest of my team choosing not to report the person, but for me, I'm giving the person a second chance.

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