An Open Apology to the Community and Riot Games

EyesOfTheFox·Jun 5, 2019·31 votes·15,526 views

So something happened to my account recently and I wanted to take the time to say...

I'm sorry for the things I've said in game in the heat of the moment to fellow players. I'm sorry to Riot for not making the game a safe space for other players.

Everyone has their own struggles in life and, like me, some people use League to escape from that struggle. In a competitive environment that forces people to work together who may not normally, it is very easy to become tilted. It is even easier to flame in chat because there is no face, only a character. I have taken advantage of that and it does not make me feel like a good person.

I do not blame anyone but myself. It's just hard sometimes, as I do struggle with mental health issues. I know there are a lot of others out there that do as well, and I could have very well been flaming one of those people or more without that understanding.

So many times things happen in this game that are outside of our control, and I didn't take seriously the things I could control.

While often times we do have to be poked a few times before we snap, I found my threshold for snapping becoming lower and lower.

I will not tell you what happened with my account. Nor will I try to justify my actions as they are not justifiable.

Everyone that plays this game deserves to have a good time, and I would love to prove that I can be a part of that good time.

For everyone that's every been tilted, for everyone that's every been hurt, for everyone that I've ever wronged...

I am truly sorry and ask if there is any way for you to offer me a second chance to prove that you are all deserving of better treatment from me, and help me to become a better person through being positive together.

Thank you for your time and best of luck on the fields of justice!

53 Comments

Divin1tyJun 5, 201914 votes

Oh wow, I thought it's another ,,UnBaNn Me PlOx Me SoRrY!!11!" like you see them everyday. I am pleasantly surprised, that this isn't the case.

My tipp for you, make yourself a new account. There is no chance you get this one back, but you can prove it to yourself that you can do it. Get that Honor LVL 5! :)

SovereignMammalJun 5, 20197 votes

Don't apologize. Apologizing has bred the weak nanny state we now live in.

SchoenbergJun 5, 20197 votes

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Don't apologize. Apologizing has bred the weak nanny state we now live in.

It'd be pretty funny to see a society where no one makes amends for aggression bc they think it makes them look stronger.

Anyhow, I think the strongest thing is calm, self-control. It'll get you further in life than being impulsive will.

ZaFishboneJun 5, 20193 votes

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It'd be pretty funny to see a society where no one makes amends for aggression bc they think it makes them look stronger.

Anyhow, I think the strongest thing is calm, self-control. It'll get you further in life than being impulsive will.

The strongest thing depends entirely on the situation you are in. If some lone guy is beating up your girlfriend in front of you, I doubt the strongest things are calm and self-control.

SchoenbergJun 5, 20191 votes

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The strongest thing depends entirely on the situation you are in. If some lone guy is beating up your girlfriend in front of you, I doubt the strongest things are calm and self-control.

I am well aware that it is situation-dependent.

What I should have said was that being calm will be much more beneficial nearly all of the time.

EyesOfTheFoxJun 5, 20193 votes

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The strongest thing depends entirely on the situation you are in. If some lone guy is beating up your girlfriend in front of you, I doubt the strongest things are calm and self-control.

I think the point is to not be the guy beating up your girlfriend.

ZaFishboneJun 5, 20192 votes

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I think the point is to not be the guy beating up your girlfriend.

So standing around when someone else is doing it is just fine? "sorry honey, can't help you, I'm a pacifist, you see"

EyesOfTheFoxJun 5, 20195 votes

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So standing around when someone else is doing it is just fine? "sorry honey, can't help you, I'm a pacifist, you see"

Defending a helpless person does not mean you are not a pacifist. Pacifists don't go around looking for fights. They don't feel the need to engage in pointless fights either. You are trying to relate someone in real life trauma to some shit someone said on a computer. The two are NOT the same. Jesus was a pacifist but even he flipped some tables and yelled at some Romans once (in defense of his religion because he was angry at the corruption in the Church in Rome at the time).

Fighting someone with words on the internet because they bruised your ego, does not make you strong. It actually proves how weak you are.

And again...the point is, to not be the person beating on your girlfriend in the first place. Think about this, if that dude actually believed he was supposed to be the person that doesn't beat on women, he wouldn't have started beating her up, and we wouldn't even be having this conversation. You're trying to relate the defending of someone else that is in a helpless situation to the defending yourself in an online video game chat. One is a selfless act, the other is a selfish act.

ZaFishboneJun 5, 20191 votes

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Defending a helpless person does not mean you are not a pacifist. Pacifists don't go around looking for fights. They don't feel the need to engage in pointless fights either. You are trying to relate someone in real life trauma to some shit someone said on a computer. The two are NOT the same. Jesus was a pacifist but even he flipped some tables and yelled at some Romans once (in defense of his religion because he was angry at the corruption in the Church in Rome at the time).

Fighting someone with words on the internet because they bruised your ego, does not make you strong. It actually proves how weak you are.

And again...the point is, to not be the person beating on your girlfriend in the first place. Think about this, if that dude actually believed he was supposed to be the person that doesn't beat on women, he wouldn't have started beating her up, and we wouldn't even be having this conversation. You're trying to relate the defending of someone else that is in a helpless situation to the defending yourself in an online video game chat. One is a selfless act, the other is a selfish act.

What on earth made you start with the whole "not to be the guy beating your gf" bit? Did you completely miss out on what we were talking about? I gave the "standing around while someone beats ur gf" question as an example. The real question was: you said that being peaceful always leads to better results, does that even apply when someone is getting hurt in front of you RIGHT THEN AND THERE? Pls stop going of topic or on tangents, just answer that question.

EyesOfTheFoxJun 5, 20191 votes

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What on earth made you start with the whole "not to be the guy beating your gf" bit? Did you completely miss out on what we were talking about? I gave the "standing around while someone beats ur gf" question as an example. The real question was: you said that being peaceful always leads to better results, does that even apply when someone is getting hurt in front of you RIGHT THEN AND THERE? Pls stop going of topic or on tangents, just answer that question.

"ZaFishbone (EUNE) - about 4 hours ago

The strongest thing depends entirely on the situation you are in. If some lone guy is beating up your girlfriend in front of you, I doubt the strongest things are calm and self-control."

That was not a question. And in my previous statement I said defending a helpless person does not also mean you are not a pacifist. You can also approach fights that you feel you must fight in a calm and collected manner with self-control, as seen by Robert Downey Jr in the Sherlock Holmes movie. That means just use your brain first. So in a way, I did answer the question you did not ask.

Also the post you were referring to was this:

"Anyhow, I think the strongest thing is calm, self-control. It'll get you further in life than being impulsive will."

That just means don't be a dick, i.e. Don't be the dude beating on people's girlfriends.

[Cobra Kai Season 2 Spoilers Ahead]

And you may think that Miguel made the wrong choice to not end that fight with Robby when he had the chance, otherwise he wouldn't have gotten his back broken. But Robby actually broke that dude's back and will forever be known as the dude that took it too far. But to you, it seems you would find Miguel weak because he didn't "finish him" and be known as the guy that took it too far himself.

[End Spoilers]

Please respond soon, as I look forward to our further discussion of us trying to figure out what the other person really means.

ZaFishboneJun 5, 20191 votes

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"ZaFishbone (EUNE) - about 4 hours ago

The strongest thing depends entirely on the situation you are in. If some lone guy is beating up your girlfriend in front of you, I doubt the strongest things are calm and self-control."

That was not a question. And in my previous statement I said defending a helpless person does not also mean you are not a pacifist. You can also approach fights that you feel you must fight in a calm and collected manner with self-control, as seen by Robert Downey Jr in the Sherlock Holmes movie. That means just use your brain first. So in a way, I did answer the question you did not ask.

Also the post you were referring to was this:

"Anyhow, I think the strongest thing is calm, self-control. It'll get you further in life than being impulsive will."

That just means don't be a dick, i.e. Don't be the dude beating on people's girlfriends.

[Cobra Kai Season 2 Spoilers Ahead]

And you may think that Miguel made the wrong choice to not end that fight with Robby when he had the chance, otherwise he wouldn't have gotten his back broken. But Robby actually broke that dude's back and will forever be known as the dude that took it too far. But to you, it seems you would find Miguel weak because he didn't "finish him" and be known as the guy that took it too far himself.

[End Spoilers]

Please respond soon, as I look forward to our further discussion of us trying to figure out what the other person really means.

If you're capable of being calm and self controlled when someone is hitting your girlfriend, I would question how much you really cared for her. Sometimes getting angry and ruled by emotions is part of being a human with a healthy mentality.

EyesOfTheFoxJun 5, 20191 votes

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If you're capable of being calm and self controlled when someone is hitting your girlfriend, I would question how much you really cared for her. Sometimes getting angry and ruled by emotions is part of being a human with a healthy mentality.

I did say that even Jesus flipped some tables and yelled at some Romans.

Sebastit7dJun 5, 20192 votes

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The strongest thing depends entirely on the situation you are in. If some lone guy is beating up your girlfriend in front of you, I doubt the strongest things are calm and self-control.

If you are able to compare playing a videogame with someone beating your girlfriend then i have some really bad news for you, buddy...

ZaFishboneJun 5, 20191 votes

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If you are able to compare playing a videogame with someone beating your girlfriend then i have some really bad news for you, buddy...

When did I make such a comparison? Did you see the comment I was responding to? It was talking about society at large, and aggressive vs peaceful attitudes in general, not just video games.

fatherdariusJun 6, 20191 votes

You can see just such a society in the DPRK.

GjelstadJun 5, 20194 votes

Git gud

DeleteSuppRoleJun 5, 20191 votes

That's a pretty cool name, impressive how you managed to get it.

EyesOfTheFoxJun 5, 20191 votes

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That's a pretty cool name, impressive how you managed to get it.

Thanks man! I'll miss seeing it in game, but I'm sure other people won't lol

Impractical1Jun 5, 20194 votes

I will say that this is one the first board posts I've made, been playing league on and off since 2011.

I was hardstuck gold for the majority of this season and I never understood why I wasn't improving until I actually looked at myself.

I would give first blood or a teammate would make a mistake and I would low-key flame them. Nothing along the lines of total toxicity but just enough to where I see that I myself probably tilted my own teammates.

A Mia ping when their laner roams and ganks my lane or a "thanks for not following them and letting me get 2v1ed", etc. Stuff like that.

I don't know when it happened exactly but I stopped myself. When teammates die I let them know that it's ok. That it's just a death or two. Or I point out that since their Jung ganked bot, ours secured his entire top side jg, or rift herald, or something along those lines.

Even if I'm getting flamed for something I simply just don't type anything back. I look at the map, objectives, different things like that and try to figure out what "I" need to do.

And since then I've been able to climb up to plat 3. I guess the point I'm trying to say is to move on and worry about yourself. Because you are the only constant in your games. Yeah you will feed every now and then or a teammate will feed every now and then, but just let it go. Continue to move on and continue to improve yourself both in the game and outside.

You have a really tough game or get flamed for something you did, take a 5-10 minute break before queing up again. Go smoke a cigarette, get a snack, watch a YouTube video, literally anything to get your mind off of what just happened and I promise it will help you in the long run.

EyesOfTheFoxJun 5, 20193 votes

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I will say that this is the first board post I've made, been playing league on and off since 2011.

I was hardstuck gold for the majority of this season and I never understood why I wasn't improving until I actually looked at myself.

I would give first blood or a teammate would make a mistake and I would low-key flame them. Nothing along the lines of total toxicity but just enough to where I see that I myself probably tilted my own teammates.

A Mia ping when their laner roams and ganks my lane or a "thanks for not following them and letting me get 2v1ed", etc. Stuff like that.

I don't know when it happened exactly but I stopped myself. When teammates die I let them know that it's ok. That it's just a death or two. Or I point out that since their Jung ganked bot, ours secured his entire top side jg, or rift herald, or something along those lines.

Even if I'm getting flamed for something I simply just don't type anything back. I look at the map, objectives, different things like that and try to figure out what "I" need to do.

And since then I've been able to climb up to plat 3. I guess the point I'm trying to say is to move on and worry about yourself. Because you are the only constant in your games. Yeah you will feed every now and then or a teammate will feed every now and then, but just let it go. Continue to move on and continue to improve yourself both in the game and outside.

You have a really tough game or get flamed for something you did, take a 5-10 minute break before queing up again. Go smoke a cigarette, get a snack, watch a YouTube video, literally anything to get your mind off of what just happened and I promise it will help you in the long run.

Yeah, I guess it started because I felt like they were right ya know. That all I'll ever be is trash stuck in elo hell with them for all eternity, so I auditioned for the role and excelled at it.

Impractical1Jun 5, 20192 votes

That's where they're wrong though buddy. Like I said, you are your only constant. Continue to improve yourself and you will excel.

You've already taken the biggest hurdle in admitting that you were at fault. You can't control other people's action but you can control your own, no matter how hard it may seem. And it will get easier as time goes.

Literally the last game I played last night was my plat 3 promos. I was zed lanning against reneketon. I recalled and he shoved in lane and roamed bot and picked up a kill.

Bot lane immediately flamed me for "getting out roamed, and having lower cs than him."

I wanted to explain what had just happened and why he roamed while I was just getting back to mid. But I bit my tongue so to speak and just focused on catching back up. Luckily bot was able to carry with some additional help from me and jg.

I could have flamed them back and that may or may not have tilted them. Well never know, but by not flaming them back I controlled myself and even if we ended up losing that game I know that I did the right thing in not saying anything back to them.

EyesOfTheFoxJun 5, 20192 votes

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That's where they're wrong though buddy. Like I said, you are your only constant. Continue to improve yourself and you will excel.

You've already taken the biggest hurdle in admitting that you were at fault. You can't control other people's action but you can control your own, no matter how hard it may seem. And it will get easier as time goes.

Literally the last game I played last night was my plat 3 promos. I was zed lanning against reneketon. I recalled and he shoved in lane and roamed bot and picked up a kill.

Bot lane immediately flamed me for "getting out roamed, and having lower cs than him."

I wanted to explain what had just happened and why he roamed while I was just getting back to mid. But I bit my tongue so to speak and just focused on catching back up. Luckily bot was able to carry with some additional help from me and jg.

I could have flamed them back and that may or may not have tilted them. Well never know, but by not flaming them back I controlled myself and even if we ended up losing that game I know that I did the right thing in not saying anything back to them.

Yeah solo queue really is a reactionary experience. Unless you have telepathy, there's no way to know what another person is thinking. So you almost have to know before you make a play, can I do this on my own and be successful, or will I need help. If the first answer is yes, then go for it, but if not, then I probably shouldn't assume my team knows my plan and shouldn't expect them to know to follow a lead. You really have to just look at everything around you and put yourself in the best position so that way when they answer no to that first question but still follow through, you'll be in a spot to help them. I'm trying man. And I will take your advice to the bank for sure.

Impractical1Jun 5, 20191 votes

Wow I couldn't have really said it better myself. I think that's one of the biggest reasons people flame others.

They go in 1v3 and die, then flame their teammates for not following up. I just want to tell people that we can't read your minds. We have no idea that you have planned out your engagement in your head, with you engaging, malph flashing in over a wall and ulting over another wall to get a 3 man knockup that our Yas can instantly pick up on and press r to clean up.

Like we have no idea what you're going to do. Yeah after many games played and knowing your teammates kits you can guess at what and how they will react, but you never know if that follow-up is coming or not. The moment you go in they could be looking at the mini map somewhere else. Or tabbing and checking out enemies items, or hell their cat might have just jumped up on their keyboard causing them to use a skill with a longer cool down.

hihhihihihi1212Jun 5, 20194 votes

What a sore loser lol just make a new account.

SunkySamJun 5, 20192 votes

You deserve to get yourself a new account and get to the max honor level for the positive impact you will have on the community

Aynath CrescentJun 5, 20192 votes

It feels good to read posts like that. If you really mean what you say, return to the Fields of Justice with a fresh start, and bring the spark of positivity to this community !

Neumím RivenJun 5, 20192 votes

Is this real or is it another one of the made up posts to make this community better.

Light BurnerJun 5, 20192 votes

Why would you post this? So many people believe you're actually apologizing that its sad. If you were perma banned that means you were chat banned for 10 games, 25 games and banned for 14 days prior to this and still continued to be aggressive towards others. Now you're coming on here after the 4th punishment of the exact same thing you got punished for 3 times prior and saying you're sorry?

What you're really after is stated in your last paragraph, "ask if there is any way for you to offer me a second chance to prove that you are all deserving of better treatment from me". If you wanted to prove something prove it to yourself because the people you hurt in games you already hurt theyre long gone you wont ever see them again. So if you wanted to bring a positive attitude do it in game not on the board with words.

EyesOfTheFoxJun 5, 20191 votes

[{quoted}](name=Light Burner,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=JAEW1pGm,comment-id=000a,timestamp=2019-06-05T14:13:48.999+0000)

Why would you post this? So many people believe you're actually apologizing that its sad. If you were perma banned that means you were chat banned for 10 games, 25 games and banned for 14 days prior to this and still continued to be aggressive towards others. Now you're coming on here after the 4th punishment of the exact same thing you got punished for 3 times prior and saying you're sorry?

What you're really after is stated in your last paragraph, "ask if there is any way for you to offer me a second chance to prove that you are all deserving of better treatment from me". If you wanted to prove something prove it to yourself because the people you hurt in games you already hurt theyre long gone you wont ever see them again. So if you wanted to bring a positive attitude do it in game not on the board with words.

It's addressed to the community as a whole. Maybe a person I did flame sees this. Maybe they care, maybe they don't. Maybe they're celebrating. Who knows. I've already moved on and have started to better myself regardless of what you feel my intentions are. To think I haven't done otherwise, or to think I'm trying to beg for my account back, you are highly mistaken. I have already taken those steps without your permission, because you're right. Put my money where my mouth is. My new account is sub 30 and I'm already almost honor 3. Thanks for responding though, because it has made me think about the way things are worded and how they can be misinterpreted. :)

SchoenbergJun 5, 20191 votes

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It's addressed to the community as a whole. Maybe a person I did flame sees this. Maybe they care, maybe they don't. Maybe they're celebrating. Who knows. I've already moved on and have started to better myself regardless of what you feel my intentions are. To think I haven't done otherwise, or to think I'm trying to beg for my account back, you are highly mistaken. I have already taken those steps without your permission.

If you didn't really feel bad when you were flaming folks, chances are the only thing you feel bad about now is being banned. Not any destruction that your outbursts might've caused.

And if you did feel bad when you were flaming folks, you wouldn't have done it.

The same goes for the rest of the flamers.

EyesOfTheFoxJun 5, 20191 votes

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If you didn't really feel bad when you were flaming folks, chances are the only thing you feel bad about now is being banned. Not any destruction that your outbursts might've caused.

And if you did feel bad when you were flaming folks, you wouldn't have done it.

The same goes for the rest of the flamers.

You're right. I didn't feel bad at the time. You're also right that most people feel bad because of the investment they lost not because of the people they hurt. Sometimes it takes a lot to make people (me) realize exactly what their actions were doing. A lot of people also assume that getting banned means you are like that all the time. When really it just takes a few times to go too far, which is a few times too many. And hindsight will always be 20/20. And it did take the loss of an investment for me to actually take a step back and look at myself. And I've always had anger management problems, that's real talk, and involves personal history I'd rather not delve into. So for me, it is a struggle. Having people that want to see you do better feels good. Feels great vs all the people that just assume I'll always be an asshole, because all they know about me is that I went too far in chat sometimes and paid for it.

Verbally AbusingJun 5, 20192 votes

You know why they call it a perm ban because its permanent. Also post your chat log

EyesOfTheFoxJun 5, 20191 votes

[{quoted}](name=Verbally Abusing,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=JAEW1pGm,comment-id=000c,timestamp=2019-06-05T15:10:07.514+0000)

You know why they call it a perm ban because its permanent. Also post your chat log

I don't need to post my chat log because I'm not arguing that I wasn't a toxic asshole during some of my previous games. Most people post chat logs because they are trying to defend themselves. I'm not. I'm 100% guilty. Not proud of that but it's the truth.

CevradJun 5, 20191 votes

Nope, they will not unban accounts, even if you have no additional history and were wrongly banned for telling toxic people to shut the F** up. Had an account banned 4 years ago no and it won't ever see the light of day again with approx 2 grand in skins on it.

EyesOfTheFoxJun 5, 20192 votes

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Nope, they will not unban accounts, even if you have no additional history and were wrongly banned for telling toxic people to shut the F** up. Had an account banned 4 years ago no and it won't ever see the light of day again with approx 2 grand in skins on it.

Yeah, I think that's why Riot doesn't give them back. The loss of all the money wasted will always hurt more than not being able to use your old summoner name.

HvsaoJun 5, 20191 votes

Make an account with that "Reformed" username, and climb back up here. We'll be waiting.

MorgManBasherJun 5, 20191 votes

Me reading this thread

Nunu summoner 6 summoner 1 item 3117 item 3086 item 3113 item 2053

La Belle SauvageJun 5, 20191 votes

This line:

"I am truly sorry and ask if there is any way for you to offer me a second chance to prove that you are all deserving of better treatment from me, and help me to become a better person through being positive together."

Undoes everything you were trying to accomplish.

Not sure if you are intentionally arrogant or not but regardless it's clear you're not sincere.

EyesOfTheFoxJun 5, 20191 votes

[{quoted}](name=La Belle Sauvage,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=JAEW1pGm,comment-id=000e,timestamp=2019-06-05T19:02:22.634+0000)

This line:

"I am truly sorry and ask if there is any way for you to offer me a second chance to prove that you are all deserving of better treatment from me, and help me to become a better person through being positive together."

Undoes everything you were trying to accomplish.

Not sure if you are intentionally arrogant or not but regardless it's clear you're not sincere.

It's unfortunate you feel that way, as I have already started to take these steps without your permission. And while yes literally they did give me a few chances over the many years, I meant it moreso from a new account perspective, because that's what it took to actually make me realize that the fuck I had been doing. Thanks for taking the time to respond none the less :)

SchoenbergJun 5, 20191 votes

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It's unfortunate you feel that way, as I have already started to take these steps without your permission. And while yes literally they did give me a few chances over the many years, I meant it moreso from a new account perspective, because that's what it took to actually make me realize that the fuck I had been doing. Thanks for taking the time to respond none the less :)

Good luck with your reform.

La Belle SauvageJun 6, 20191 votes

Perhaps it was a mistake in your writing.

SchoenbergJun 5, 20191 votes

[{quoted}](name=La Belle Sauvage,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=JAEW1pGm,comment-id=000e,timestamp=2019-06-05T19:02:22.634+0000)

This line:

"I am truly sorry and ask if there is any way for you to offer me a second chance to prove that you are all deserving of better treatment from me, and help me to become a better person through being positive together."

Undoes everything you were trying to accomplish.

Not sure if you are intentionally arrogant or not but regardless it's clear you're not sincere.

I think that's your perception of it.

If he were unbanned he probably wouldn't flame anymore. The same goes for most everyone who writes an apology for their behavior after being banned. But does that mean that they're not all blatant last-ditch attempts? Of course not. They still are and some of them are pretty dang annoying.

But here's the thing, if they started unbanning folks who wrote an apology they'd be opening the floodgates to extra work and an extra chance. Mods/other would have to review a fair bit of these 'appeals' and decide whether or not to accept or reject them. That and the flamers would probably take their extra, last chance for granted.

Edit: Ignore this. Your rather mild response triggered him. He'd probably keep flaming if he were given that last chance.

EyesOfTheFoxJun 5, 20191 votes

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I think that's your perception of it.

If he were unbanned he probably wouldn't flame anymore. The same goes for most everyone who writes an apology for their behavior after being banned. But does that mean that they're not all blatant last-ditch attempts? Of course not. They still are and some of them are pretty dang annoying.

But here's the thing, if they started unbanning folks who wrote an apology they'd be opening the floodgates to extra work and an extra chance. Mods/other would have to review a fair bit of these 'appeals' and decide whether or not to accept or reject them. That and the flamers would probably take their extra, last chance for granted.

Edit: Ignore this. Your rather mild response triggered him. He'd probably keep flaming if he were given that last chance.

Concerning your edit: Perhaps I would have, that's why I never stated I wanted my original account back. Yes I did submit a ticket for reasons I will not state, but have since told Riot to ignore that ticket. I have already almost reached honor 3 on a new account that's sub 30 because I HAVE been taking the actions to be a better player. The point of the permaban is to make you realize how toxic you were and make you feel the loss of all the money you spent. It's an investment that you don't see a return on unless you are able to access the account. This is why most people beg for accounts back. I already made a new one and moved on. They didn't permanently ban me the person from the game like they did Tyler1 a couple years ago, so that in and of itself is Riot's way of providing a quote unquote second chance. Any investment I make now, I'll have to protect. And that starts with being a better person. #TriggerProof

SchoenbergJun 5, 20191 votes

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Concerning your edit: Perhaps I would have, that's why I never stated I wanted my original account back. Yes I did submit a ticket for reasons I will not state, but have since told Riot to ignore that ticket. I have already almost reached honor 3 on a new account that's sub 30 because I HAVE been taking the actions to be a better player. The point of the permaban is to make you feel the loss of all the money you spent. It's an investment that you don't see a return on unless you are able to access the account. This is why most people beg for accounts back. I already made a new one and moved on. Any investment I make now, I'll have to protect. And that starts with being a better person. #TriggerProof

Not so sure about that #TriggerProof thing given your responses in the thread. Anyhow, you gave me a trigger proof response. Thanks for that.

Best of luck with your reform either way

TO LentheJun 5, 20191 votes

I am 100% sure I never faced off against you, but nevertheless I accept your apology, as someone who's part of the League Community. Though I reckon your punishment was deserved, still I'm sorry that this happened to you. Let this be a lesson for the future: being a douche to others has negative consequences. Oh and I saw someone here who said that online flaming and whatever has no real life impact on people's lives? Wrong. I quit this game a couple of times a few years ago because flaming had made me so insecure about my skills that I felt bad about being on other people's team. I was afraid to play ranked cause it would show how bad I surely was. There's even a specific Shaco that made such an impression on me 4 years ago that I'll never forget that game. Be nice, civil people in videogames, peeps. The chat being online maybe makes it easier to type hurtful stuff, but it doesn't make it any easier for the flamed person unless they have emotional capacity to let it pass them by. And you simply can't assume everyone has that. So yes, I'm glad you can reflect on your mistakes now. If you do decide to create an account and try again, I wish you good luck.

CyanSolution247Jun 6, 20191 votes

Yea sorry i enjoyed the post and i honestly feel bad for you but riot's ban hammer is fucking ridiculous and there is no chance of you getting your account back. when my brothers account got banned all that i learned was: flaming randoms is ok in riots books but the moment you flame your 5 man premade they hit you with the ban hammer... don't even know how to much a hate riots ban philosophy.

EyesOfTheFoxJun 11, 20192 votes

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Yea sorry i enjoyed the post and i honestly feel bad for you but riot's ban hammer is fucking ridiculous and there is no chance of you getting your account back. when my brothers account got banned all that i learned was: flaming randoms is ok in riots books but the moment you flame your 5 man premade they hit you with the ban hammer... don't even know how to much a hate riots ban philosophy.

I just wanted to follow up here: So, that support ticket I submitted was actually the best thing I could have done. I didn't have a history of initiating negative chat, and the situation that landed me there was in response to others already doing so in the game. While this doesn't make it right, the Rioter was able to recognize this. So after a few lengthy emails and conversations, the penalty was reduced with a stipulation, one more strike, I'm out for good (but I won't let that happen).

Oh I was also Honor level 5 last season and got all my ranked rewards so I mean, I really didn't have a history of being toxic.

Yuumi or DodgeJun 6, 20191 votes

I've had accounts permabanned, more than I would care to admit here, because I've done so before and had extremely unpleasant experiences.

I never learned to control myself. Now, finally, I'm doing it. I no longer speak in game, ever. All I say is "gj", "wp", "gg", or the occasional "baron pls" or "drag up". And I firmly believe it's for the better.:)

CadkawJun 6, 20191 votes

Trundle is a troll... jinx thrives on chaos... Lissandra killed her sister... Thresh stole the soul of Lucian’s wife... Teemo loves when enemy team rages... Evelyn feasts on the misery of others... You can literally taunt, laugh at, or dance on the graves of your enemy(plus numerous troll emotes)... Riot gives you the tools to be toxic... similar to how riot has Evelyn say promiscuous things but will attempt banning someone with a name, SexualGirl... Riot wants to babysit, so the community has not learnt to deal with their own problems.. an over bearing parent only cripples it’s child. Have never seen a strict system ever work... 10 years and people are still being people... Riot’s attempts are feeble because they try to control emotion.