Response Topic :: Dominick Destine

Kaxi·2/26/2016, 7:35:57 PM·4 votes·1,177 views

I'm actually enjoying this discussion and wish for it to continue. I have my second job (away from a computer) soon, but I would like for this to persist. This is the last post by Dominick, not mine. I'm responding in kind in a below post.

> Yet, you're dedicating the time and effort to write it out.

What's your point? one would need to literally "go out of their way" to not be at their keyboard while being on their computer.

> It's okay to think that people are scum of the earth and shouldn't be playing the game.

And who decides what the criteria for "scum of the earth" is?

I have very specific criteria for it but I am sure that the authority here does not agree.

> further spiral negatively in that person's experience.

Once again, nonsense.

"Hurt Feelings" is not an argument.

> I'm not sure if you're being sarcastic there, but there has definitely been improvement.

Nope. I follow the rules 100% of the time.

Except in rare cases where it is a failing of mine that is unintentional (Rule change for ex).

> To be perfectly honest, I follow most of what you're saying. Authority should let the society deal with societal issues unless they directly infringe on the rights of the person.

Something like that.

Basically it is the intelligent man's/libertarian stance which is diametrically opposed to feminism/leftism that advocates for 1984 style thought control, thought policing , violation of basic human rights, censorship, erosion of liberty of expression, newspeak, etc.

> Riot prescribes to a different philosophy

Of course and I specifically stated that.

Riot is leftist/feminist leaning... that's fine, although I disagree with their stance I still support them 100% of the way.

> we should look at what benefits our experiences

"Experiences" is meaningless.

> and our ability to win the game.

Which is determined by something called Skill, not by "Words".

> Talking trash and playful banter is one thing, but attacking a person's decision-making is not conducive toward getting to that goal of victory.

Who cares.

"Hurt Feelings" is not an argument (Once again reiterating; I never violate Riot's rules). Play League of Legends, not the "Who is more offended" game.

> more tactical like a chess player.

... have you ever played Chess?

Emotions cloud one's judgment and the tactical ability of chess players is greatly derived specifically from not being "offended" but rather focusing entirely on the game which is exactly what libertarian/intelligent men always advocate.

"Words" are irrelevant. Skill is what matters. Karpov took this stance and he was the greatest of his time. Kasparov was a diva but even he also pushed it.

> You can have both scenarios.

No you cannot. Either liberty is the core or it is not. If "Hurt Feelings" becomes an argument, then there are no valid arguments after that point because "I am 1% more offended than you" is the greatest argument of all time with no possible refutation.

> beneficial to your experience.

"Experience" is meaningless.

> Yes, survival of the fittest as you stated earlier is more raw and based on individual talent

That is correct and, in my opinion, the only method worth pursuing.

> but make it about the game, not about the words people may speak.

That's exactly my point.

> Don't devolve the game into a fight over team chat

Who cares.... "Hurt Feelings" is not an argument. How many times must I remind you of this?

> I could personally care less if people call me scum of the earth or wishing my family would drop dead.

Then you would be against the draconian system which you are not. You seem to be in full support of the ultra authoritarian/leftist/feminist stance... I support it but only because I support Riot, I am strongly libertarian leaning, survival of the fittest, meritocracy, etc.

"Feelz before reelz" is not something I can co-sign.

> What I do care about is the mental states of my current allies and my future allies; if their mental states are healthier and better, then I stand

Irrelevant.

Skill is what matters, not "Emotions". Skill is absolute. The skilled will triumph, the skill-less that cannot hack it will (once again) fall into a long slumber down in the bronze brackets. There is nothing else.

Skill 100%.

Though in a way, the collectivist leftist arguments you make have some merit.... I consider myself to be mechanically superior than 99% of the player base, but I strongly dislike the fact that it is a team game and I am forced to rely on others.

So I tend to do my own thing which makes it difficult to win. Regardless of this I will make my way to Diamond through skill alone, everything else is irrelevant and does not matter. The childish notions that "Feelings" are relevant have no place in a competitive arena... and so on and so forth.

In any case, I believe we are at an impasse but it doesn't matter, Riot ultimately sides with you and thus, I have lost this one by default before it even began, gg.

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VyleExyle2/26/2016, 7:50:25 PM3 votes

Sooooooo....

the OP got into a debate, stayed in a debate, and is now running for the support of the masses when he didn't get the response he was hoping for... sounds like the girls at SUNY Albany this month... google it if you want some modern news that will make you weep for the future

Dominick Destine2/26/2016, 7:43:30 PM1 votes

Before I read this thread; I have heard from more than a few people on this forum that I am "Hated"/"Infamous"/"etc." and yet I have been added in game by other people that have told me that I am "Always right" or "Always wrong but at least interesting" or even in one case "I hate YOU but I love your posts".

It is a strange phenomenon... since this thread is eponymous (hue) , I felt like adding that, so let's read...

Edit: I tried to read the original post but it was just a copy paste of my last post. I get the sense that the formatting effed up or the original poster was called away to his work.... I am also at work but my work entails sitting/waiting in a furbished room with an open bar, wi-fi and sexy women giving me lap dances.

Okay that last part is not true... they are not sexy at all. (Okay the whole thing about the ladies was not true but the other stuff was, dentistry ftw)

1ezrealvs5scabs2/26/2016, 7:46:05 PM1 votes

Woah, OP is mad. Typed up an essay that noone is going to read, well done. Didn't read past the first line, instead scrolled to see what Dominick would say and pretty normal response.. OP just jibber jabbers on in his own mind. well done.

Kaxi2/26/2016, 7:46:54 PM1 votes

{quoted} > What I do care about is the mental states of my current allies and my future allies; if their mental states are healthier and better

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Irrelevant.

Skill is what matters, not "Emotions". Skill is absolute. The skilled will triumph, the skill-less that cannot hack it will (once again) fall into a long slumber down in the bronze brackets. There is nothing else.

Skill 100%.

Though in a way, the collectivist leftist arguments you make have some merit.... I consider myself to be mechanically superior than 99% of the player base, but I strongly dislike the fact that it is a team game and I am forced to rely on others.

So I tend to do my own thing which makes it difficult to win. Regardless of this I will make my way to Diamond through skill alone, everything else is irrelevant and does not matter. The childish notions that "Feelings" are relevant have no place in a competitive arena... and so on and so forth.

In any case, I believe we are at an impasse but it doesn't matter, Riot ultimately sides with you and thus, I have lost this one by default before it even began, gg.

Oh Rito. Thanks for your awesome quoting ability. :(

This is the issue I'm bringing up, though. It's that other people don't see the world the same way I do. I would much rather people speak their own mind and play how they want, but that is destructive to what would get me ahead. I just want people to work with me and focus on the game, not just chat the whole time. Other people are more sensitive and thus will react negatively to such speech. Do I really care all that much about what they think? Not really. They shouldn't be here if they can't handle it; people tend to be more harsh online, and those who don't understand that shouldn't be here.

However, that's just a single thought. I want people who will work with the rest, not attack each other at the first sign of inferiority. I know my own views are rather...muddled and sometimes even contradictory. But, I also know that skill /should/ decide the game, not whether one team has someone who is tilted beyond belief. Emotions shouldn't factor into the game, but they inevitably do because a lot of people have something that "triggers" them or makes them emotional. I want to remove emotion from the game by making it a non-factor. People don't need to be treating each other like their best friends, but they should carry themselves with a toned-down sense of...well...almost professionalism. Treat the game like a business and make it from Point A to Point B. Remove emotion; make it a non-factor. That also means not making it a factor by emotionally compromising them.

I don't care what another person thinks or feels, but I also don't want those views to interfere with the game. I don't give a f### about your life story because you're insignificant to my life's story, but I do want you to be emotionally stable enough to get through this game as a cohesive unit, a team. Like it or not, the team is trapped together until it's over, and I'd rather there be at least some cohesion instead of people sh##-talking each other instead of giving and gathering information to benefit themselves in the game.

TL;DR I don't want there to be emotion, so I make it a non-factor. Does that make sense?

Dominick Destine2/27/2016, 12:36:29 AM1 votes

This was the greatest thread of all time.

Dominick Destine9/17/2016, 7:34:42 PM1 votes

Irrelevant. Skill is what matters, not "Emotions". Skill is absolute. The skilled will triumph, the skill-less that cannot hack it will (once again) fall into a long slumber down in the bronze brackets. There is nothing else. Skill 100%.

Though in a way, the collectivist leftist arguments you make have some merit.... I consider myself to be mechanically superior than 99% of the player base, but I strongly dislike the fact that it is a team game and I am forced to rely on others.

So I tend to do my own thing which makes it difficult to win. Regardless of this I will make my way to Diamond through skill alone, everything else is irrelevant and does not matter. The childish notions that "Feelings" are relevant have no place in a competitive arena... and so on and so forth.

In any case, I believe we are at an impasse but it doesn't matter, Riot ultimately sides with you and thus, I have lost this one by default before it even began, gg.

Beautiful.

I am such a sexy man.... I'm serious, reading some of my old posts makes me feel like I am more awesome than I normally consider.