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What is the best way to Reform?

rfbasden··5 votes·1,488 views

Hello Everyone,

Recently I received a 14 day ban. I have never been banned nor chat restricted in the many years I have been playing this game. I am not disputing the ban, and want to reform because I am ultimately afraid of getting perma-banned for another offense, be it minor or major. I understand that I need to reform, but could use some help understanding how. Should I just stop chatting altogether, because I don't want to risk getting reported for any reason. Or should I try to be positive in games and strive to get honored? Does being a positive and helpful player, and being honored for it, help shorten my reform time? Any help would be appreciated, because, like I said, I do not want a perma-ban. That would make my many years on the rift a waste of time and money.

Sincerely, XiaoBaeXiao

26 Comments

wolfcrown3 votes

nope riot lyte regime will continue unfairly no matter what

Kei1432 votes

yeap!!

riot lyte, the wolfcrown destroyer will continue his ways no matter how you complain. sh!tz just not fair!! especially if your name is wolfcrown, since he's designed to destroy you.

Mama Soraka2 votes

The most recent information is that the punitive system considers a punished player to be unreformed until they frequently play games without receiving valid reports against them. RiotNeuroCat also mentioned there is no specific timetable for when an account is considered reformed so it really does appear you just need to get out there and play some good games.

If turning off chat or staying out of ranked (or whatever stresses you out) is what you need to do to accomplish this then go for it.

Astôlfo2 votes

Glad to know you admit it was deserved, unlike some of the other QQers here. Ignore them. Anyways, as for games, I'd suggest still chatting, out of communication reasons. Encourage/praise people when they get kills/objectives/do well/etc. If they make a mistake and you were watching, gently tell them tips (for instance, how it's better to back instead of push too far if you get a kill on the enemy laner and don't have vision of potential jungler ganks, etc) if you think they can handle it./reassure them it's fine (don't worry/no problem/etc). If you get upset with things, that's fine, I understand, but no matter what you do, keep it out of the game. Go vent/shout/do whatever in real life (unless it'd disturb others around you), but keep it out of the game. If someone is being toxic/rude/etc, then just mute them and keep playing. Retaliation is also grounds for punishment, and is not worth it. And if you feel the need to, just report them at the end of the game and move on. It's unlikely you'll ever see them again anyways.

EvilDustMan2 votes

Remember that raging in chat does nothing useful. If anything, you are making g things worse.

XVgayyJxXo2 votes

As someone who is also on their last chance let me explain to you that reports mean nothing if you've done nothing wrong. Months ago when I got the 14 day ban and realized perm was next I immediately just tried to reform by myself not around riot's system. I typically just muted potential toxic people or all 9 all together and focused on playing the game. I also played a lot less so I could feel enjoyment from this game instead of grinding and getting a worse attitude as the day progressed. I feel great that I have been positive for so long and hope I get to officially "reform" soon.

SpankMyPhatAshe1 votes

Yeah almost all punished players have to mute the 9 people and not communacate in order to be safe from getting reported. Kinda sad really, I still remember when people were perma-banned just because they wanted to play eve... Dark times indeed.

rfbasden1 votes

I am just worried that I will encounter a group of people who report me for having a bad game, not because I was toxic. And these trolly reports get me a perma-ban.

Roaranor2 votes

That's not something you have to worry about, as simply having a poor game is not a reportable offense. How many people report you for not doing well is irrelevant as a false report is still a false report (0+0+0+0+0 is still 0). Your best bet is to not worry about how to "shorten" your reform time or avoid getting reported, and instead focus on getting rid of negative habits and building positive habits in place of it.

I say this because your mentality going into the game and going into reform plays an immense part in how you will develop from this point on. If you go into it, thinking "how can I avoid negativity" and "how can I not get punished", then you're not really making progress. You're just doing damage control. When you start focusing on building positive habits and letting go of older habits you can recognize as a negative impact to the community, then it becomes easier to move forward and worry less because this is active progress. Another way to look at it is instead of assuming a bunch of -'s and trying to tip toe around that, just do your best to builds +'s that will make you a better person.

As for actual habits, get into the practice of becoming more conscious of what you're saying in these games and how that can affect your teammates. Before you say things, think about whether or not it's necessary or if it's just a detriment. When your jungler makes a mistake and dies to your lane and you want to say "wtf noob jungler" or "stop feeding my lane", will saying that accomplishment anything meaningful? Probably not. It's not useful advice. It doesn't give any information that could help. All it does is make him feel worse, possibly tilt, and be less likely to want to cooperate with you. Therefore, keep it to yourself or vent elsewhere (say it outloud, to a friend, etc but NOT in chat). What about saying things to encourage your teammates like "nice gank" or providing useful information such as "Ahri no f or ult". The former can increase your team's willingness to work with you on plays or strategies, and the latter is useful information that they can take into account in deciding what to do next. Bad play happened? No point in dwelling on it or arguing over what can't be changed. Instead, try to suggest courses of action that can help come back from it. Rather than saying "you fucked up Y", try saying "no worries, let's try X instead"

It might be kind of hard in the beginning, but it definitely becomes easier over time, and it can help you personally have a better experience by focusing on the positive sides of things on top of reforming.

Hope this helps.

Trufflie2 votes

it's impossible to "reform" with the current system in place. you have at least 1 year before you are considered "reformed" and any reports in that year will get you banned again

Kei1432 votes

and false reports will be thrown out.

so it's not "any reports", its "any true reports"

Trufflie2 votes

you dont need to do anything to get reported and banned you may be able to appeal an unfair ban, but there's no system that stops you from getting reported.

the system says if you have x reports for y games, you are banned. it's all automated now

Kei1431 votes

You need to get your facts straight matey.

its X positive reports for Y games.

False reports get thrown out. Need a Riotor's comment on that? or would you save me my trouble from searching for it?

Trufflie2 votes

false reports are not thrown out, there is no way for an automated system to do that. Riot lies, lets be honest, nobody actually believes the crap they say. there's more proof of people getting wrongfully banned than there is of the system working

Kei1431 votes

Strange, everytime they say they are wrongfully banned, they post chat logs and turns out they were banned correctly. If there wasn't enough information in the logs, Rioters come out and smite them.

Eitherway, if you truly believe Riot lies to you, nothing I say to you will change your mind.

SpankMyPhatAshe1 votes

Don't you mean perma-banned? because thats what they told me the next time I get any reports at all within the year.

Phenyxs1 votes

Well at least you know what got you in your current state is. The answer, you answered it your self. Mute, being positive in game and a simple GJ work fine. You appear to know what is at stake and how you got here. So don't get tilted and if you tend to walk away. Come back on later after you calmed down. I been doing that a lot as of late. Better then a report. Still doesn't fix the broken system but at least it won't break you.

Skorpio1 votes

Something that helped a friend reform was talking out loud. We have a mumble server for when we play. Rather than tell people in game they were idiots or whatever toxic reply, he would say it out loud to me. Rather than tell your teammate in game what you think, which a) tilts them, and b) helps you get banned. He would tell me what he thought. This saved him from being toxic and helped him feel better. It also helped him to realize what was actually coming out of his mouth.

GigglesO1 votes

/mute all

SpankMyPhatAshe1 votes

I have never heard of a case where a player gets "reformed" and roit never stated how much time needs to pass or how meny games you need to play. As far as we all know we just might be perma banned from all hextech loot now and forever. I played alot of games and alot of time past from my punishment and still branded as a toxic player even though I been a good little boy since then.

GigglesO1 votes

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I have never heard of a case where a player gets "reformed" and roit never stated how much time needs to pass or how meny games you need to play. As far as we all know we just might be perma banned from all hextech loot now and forever. I played alot of games and alot of time past from my punishment and still branded as a toxic player even though I been a good little boy since then.

I had a friend that played almost 24/7 for a week, and he was "reformed" enough to get one of the special skins...

SpankMyPhatAshe1 votes

You talking about when they explain it and start you off with a skin? yeah got that too but can't get anything else because you cannot be "reformed"

Trufflie1 votes

correct, but there is a system that was explained somewhere... for a 10 game chat ban, it takes 3 months to "reform" 6 for a 25 game ban. next is 1 day ban i think? and then 10 days

simple math = 1 year to reform. then you will get rewards unless they fix the system

SpankMyPhatAshe1 votes

thats funny because my 1st offence was right to 14 day ban. Never got anything else but that and it was off of one game and one game only. So that tells me yes the system is working but instead of doing a low punishment like chat ban like it should it just auto bans you with 14 days and then tells you one more time and it will perma ban you. I like the old system where you can get punished by your fellow peers because that worked very well unlike this new system >.>

EF Fantasticz1 votes

mute all if ur tilted and if anything just say nothing and afk. hate to say it probably get down voted too but being afk and getting a 10 minute queue (or whatever it is)is much better than never being able to play again because you said something you'll regret.

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