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Riots and their failed employees

Okitachan·1/10/2018, 6:58:38 AM·3 votes·1,270 views

Enjoy what right will bane you for

hat started: 2018-01-10 04:49 AM UTC

(04:49:31 AM) Okitachan: Was Chat restricted from a troll team for no reason at all while playing with a friend on a smurf account, prob the most ridiculously thing i have seen i went top after our bot has show incompetence of knowing how to play his role as a "smurf" and got reported by him and his friends even though they were in the wrong. this auto matic system is probably the bigest flaw i have ever seen in a game. Bring back the tribunal allow others to judge their peers when you are getting fflamed and you get reported cause you go against the meta is bull.. you will NEVER see another dime from me this is the biggest joke since age of conan of online gaming you refuse to look over your bans and thing oh there were majority of their team reporting him I WAS REPORTING ONE GAME OUT OF 40+ and put on chat ban is this some sort of joke ?!? (04:50:00 AM) *** Op****** joined the chat *** (04:50:02 AM) Opti****: hi there (04:50:06 AM) Okitachan: hello (04:50:28 AM) Okitachan: get past the formalities and lets talk about the flawed system you have in place. (04:50:56 AM) Opti: sure (04:51:10 AM) Okitachan: I want to talk abotu this cause i was just banned on my main for the same thing and i think its a load of crap (04:51:14 AM) Opti: you have th elightest form of punishment and it is valid. (04:51:35 AM) Opti: you were rude to your team. (04:51:36 AM) Okitachan: lets talk about it (04:51:42 AM) Okitachan: cause i wasnt verbalyy abusive at all (04:51:42 AM) Opti: negativity and arguing is not okay. (04:51:45 AM) Okitachan: and i left thje lane (04:51:48 AM) Opti: sure, let me look (04:51:59 AM) Okitachan: I left the lane (04:52:04 AM) Okitachan: to avoid negativity (04:52:09 AM) Okitachan: what about you look at the chat lag (04:52:13 AM) Okitachan: log* (04:52:17 AM) Opti: verbal abuse is different from negativity and arguing. (04:52:18 AM) Okitachan: instead of showing what i only say (04:52:23 AM) Okitachan: i didnt verbally abuse anyone (04:52:28 AM) Okitachan: i saiy i was leaving this lane (04:52:37 AM) Okitachan: cause you clearly dont know how to play adc (04:52:40 AM) Okitachan: that is not abuse (04:52:41 AM) Okitachan: at all (04:52:44 AM) Okitachan: in any world (04:52:52 AM) Opti: verbal abuse is different from negativity and arguing. (04:53:12 AM) Okitachan: what did i say in the form of abuse (04:53:12 AM) Okitachan: pleaser (04:53:23 AM) Okitachan: out of the 50 games + i have played on that account (04:53:27 AM) Okitachan: show me the ONE game (04:53:29 AM) Opti: im saying you were negative and argued (04:53:29 AM) Okitachan: i did verbal abuse (04:53:32 AM) Okitachan: i WASNT (04:53:35 AM) Okitachan: look at that log (04:53:40 AM) Opti: im looking at it now (04:53:41 AM) Okitachan: i was reported for going against hte meta (04:53:50 AM) Okitachan: that is completely different from being verbally abusive (04:54:14 AM) Opti: no you were (04:54:16 AM) Opti: you were negative (04:54:21 AM) Opti: and argued (04:54:23 AM) Opti: you misused chat (04:54:37 AM) Opti: chat is to win the game to discuss strategy and to encourage your team (04:54:40 AM) Opti: that is not how you used chat (04:54:50 AM) Okitachan: I REMOVED myseelf from the situation to refrain from being abusive as an adult (04:55:10 AM) Opti: Negative: [7:33] Okitachan (Soraka): varus is useless (04:55:20 AM) Opti: Negative: [9:07] Okitachan (Soraka): enjoy the report [9:17] [All] Okitachan (Soraka): report varus (04:55:29 AM) Okitachan: Look at what hesaid to me (04:55:33 AM) Okitachan: i ignored him and moved on (04:55:33 AM) Opti: arguing: [9:37] [All] Okitachan (Soraka): really? is that a serious question after what you just said (04:55:34 AM) Opti: no (04:55:35 AM) Okitachan: i acted as an adult (04:55:39 AM) Opti: i will not look at what he said (04:55:44 AM) Opti: what he said does not matter (04:55:49 AM) Okitachan: that is not misusing chat (04:55:54 AM) Opti: yes it is. (04:55:59 AM) Opti: that phrase does not help win the game (04:56:04 AM) Opti: you wanted to skip the fluff (04:56:10 AM) Opti: im going to be straight forward (04:56:18 AM) Okitachan: i was verbally abused (04:56:20 AM) Okitachan: and moved on in chat (04:56:24 AM) Okitachan: by ignoring him (04:56:30 AM) Okitachan: I DID NOT MISUES CHAT (04:56:36 AM) Okitachan: I DID WHAT YOU RECOMMEND (04:56:40 AM) Opti: you're asking what you did. i'm telling you what you did. you should not even address him (04:56:43 AM) Okitachan: BY IGNORING THE PLAYER (04:56:45 AM) Opti: you should mute, ignore and report (04:56:47 AM) Okitachan: and continuing to play (04:56:51 AM) Okitachan: I DID IGNOR HIM AND REPORT HIM (04:56:54 AM) Okitachan: as well as my friend (04:56:57 AM) Okitachan: i was in a game with a friend (04:57:05 AM) Opti: not ignoring: [9:37] [All] Okitachan (Soraka): really? is that a serious question after what you just said (04:57:16 AM) Opti: [19:01] Okitachan (Soraka): i mean im reporting u (04:57:36 AM) Okitachan: is that legit (04:57:43 AM) Okitachan: what you just copied to me (04:57:53 AM) Opti: what do you mean? (04:58:01 AM) Okitachan: HOW IS THAT VERBALLY ABUSIVE (04:58:08 AM) Opti: ...... (04:58:09 AM) Okitachan: I JUST SAID IWAS REPORTING HIM (04:58:10 AM) Opti: its not (04:58:17 AM) Opti: it is negative (04:58:20 AM) Opti: it is abusing chat (04:58:23 AM) Opti: not the player (04:58:25 AM) Okitachan: How si that negative (04:58:27 AM) Okitachan: i stated my intent (04:59:02 AM) Okitachan: i state that intent in a professional work \environment in the military every day (04:59:37 AM) Opti: because it does not matter. talking about muting and reports does not help win the game. chat is to win the game. (04:59:46 AM) Opti: it is considered negative (04:59:47 AM) Opti: luckily (04:59:57 AM) Opti: this is the smallest form of punishment (05:00:24 AM) Okitachan: I dont care this is the smallest punishment the fact that i was punished shows a flaw in your system (05:00:38 AM) Okitachan: and the fact that you think this is justified is isnane. (05:00:42 AM) Okitachan: do you want a bubble (05:00:54 AM) Okitachan: cause obviouslly you need a bubble for your safe space (05:00:59 AM) Opti: A chat restriction is just a way to practice to be more conservative with chat. It helps to mute players instead of arguing, and focus on your own game play. We should be very focused on gameplay and writing in chat takes away from that. Even if you are simply responding to someone else being toxic, we shouldn't respond negatively. It's also a good time to stop and evaluate if your chat is adding positivity.

Responding in anyway to negativity leaves your account open for review. (05:01:05 AM) Okitachan: what about you look where you see he asked ppl you report me (05:01:09 AM) Okitachan: that would be fair right (05:01:11 AM) Okitachan: look at that (05:01:49 AM) Opti: i can look into him no problem (05:01:54 AM) Opti: we do that a lot (05:01:58 AM) Okitachan: no the problem of you looking into him (05:02:01 AM) Opti: i can't tell you what actions are taken (05:02:06 AM) Opti: but it doesn't matter (05:02:08 AM) Okitachan: where i took it into my own matters of saying i was reporting him and ignoring him (05:02:12 AM) Opti: you are held responsible for what YOU say (05:02:16 AM) Okitachan: and then punishing me for doing the adult thing is insane (05:02:42 AM) Okitachan: I DIDN'T SAY ANYTHING TO ABUSE THE KID (05:02:50 AM) Okitachan: I SAID I WAS REPORTING HIM AND MUTING HIM (05:02:52 AM) Opti: i understand (05:02:53 AM) Okitachan: I TOOK THE HIGH ROAD (05:02:55 AM) Okitachan: NO YOU DONT (05:02:58 AM) Okitachan: OBVIOUSLY (05:03:28 AM) Okitachan: Like to say you understand is isnane (05:03:30 AM) Okitachan: if you understood (05:03:30 AM) Opti: you didn't take the hide road though, you made a few last comments. you were negative. (05:03:43 AM) Okitachan: remove my punishment and give men back the honro 3 (05:03:53 AM) Okitachan: NO i wasnt negative (05:03:54 AM) Okitachan: i legit said (05:03:55 AM) Opti: i understand that you feel wronged (05:04:04 AM) Opti: but what you said was not okay (05:04:09 AM) Okitachan: and considering what you p[osted was w/e im reporting you and ingorning you (05:04:14 AM) Okitachan: it was completely ok (05:04:20 AM) Okitachan: i didnt say anything to abuse him (05:04:23 AM) Okitachan: i said my intent (05:04:27 AM) Okitachan: i never harassed him (05:04:28 AM) Okitachan: etc (05:04:30 AM) Opti: i never ever said you abused him (05:04:37 AM) Opti: at all (05:04:38 AM) Okitachan: then why am i reported for verbal abuse (05:05:06 AM) Okitachan: i STATED my intent (05:05:07 AM) Okitachan: nothing more (05:05:12 AM) Okitachan: and im allowed to state my intent (05:05:23 AM) Okitachan: so remove this false report from this account (05:05:26 AM) Opti: its written as verbal abuse. but in reality, it is negativity and arguing. (05:05:31 AM) Opti: and it is not okay (05:05:33 AM) Okitachan: I didnt argue at all (05:05:37 AM) Okitachan: i stated my intent (05:05:45 AM) Opti: im sorry to say, but my job is to give you context (05:05:47 AM) Okitachan: just like stating im going to a cop to report someone (05:05:48 AM) Opti: and that's what ive done (05:05:50 AM) Opti: at this point (05:05:52 AM) Okitachan: your context is ass (05:05:56 AM) Opti: im going to need to close the chat (05:06:01 AM) Opti: unless you have other questions (05:06:10 AM) Okitachan: no (05:06:16 AM) Okitachan: you either need to give me a contact info t (05:06:20 AM) Okitachan: to talk to someone higher (05:06:27 AM) Opti: there is no one higher (05:06:42 AM) Okitachan: There is someone higher then a support desk at side place (05:06:45 AM) Okitachan: i have done your job (05:06:53 AM) Okitachan: Give me your supervisor (05:07:52 AM) Opti: Me and my team make up the Player Support team. No one above us handles tickets or chats, because we're perfectly equipped to do so. There is no one higher to appeal to. (05:08:01 AM) Okitachan: K w (05:08:06 AM) Okitachan: I want a supervisor (05:08:08 AM) Okitachan: at ur job (05:08:21 AM) Okitachan: since ujr sitting at a computer doing nothing probably reading 3 chat boxes right now (05:08:24 AM) Okitachan: give me a number (05:08:34 AM) Opti: there is no number to give you (05:08:40 AM) Opti: im sorry to say (05:08:43 AM) Okitachan: Thats a lie (05:08:52 AM) Opti: but ill be closing the chat now. (05:08:54 AM) Okitachan: i will contact your billing support (05:08:56 AM) Okitachan: if i have to (05:09:01 AM) Okitachan: and will be reporting you as well. (05:09:10 AM) *** Opti left the chat ***

36 Comments

Zombie Gerbil1/10/2018, 7:24:09 AM12 votes

You deserve more than a chat restriction. Your conversation with the Riot member is quite disturbing. The fact you kept arguing in a video game was unacceptable. What they meant by you misusing the chat is the fact that you didn't use the chat as it was intended to be used. Instead, you argued with a teammate, creating a negative experience for your team. This game isn't a chatroom. Regardless of your intent, you do not argue in a video game. Go to a chatroom or a forum if you want to go into a debate with someone. But if you're going to play the game, play the game and do not abuse the chat. Do not type back to any negativity or any toxic players. The only thing you are obligated to use the chat for is strategies, tactics, and friendly constructive feedback. Maybe a couple friendly jokes or small talk.

Opti, if you see this. Props to you and how you handled the situation. You set a great example and handled this individual professionally. Good job.

The Cream Reaper1/10/2018, 7:12:34 AM8 votes

I wonder what kind of pot Opti is having. He is so chill about the whole thing...

also he is right

you're an a$$

BeatzBoyFTW1/10/2018, 7:16:00 AM4 votes

You might as well post your whole chat logs that got you punished, cz it looks like YOU'RE the one in the wrong. The guy was simply doing his job, not if it's him, but punishing & justifying his actions on toxic people. From the logs he posted, you were indeed negative.

YerroFever1/11/2018, 2:02:20 AM4 votes

You know that excessive negativity can get you punished. So if you are like this in lots of games, the aggregate of all those games will lead to a chat restriction, which is what you got. The rioter even told you it was the lightest punishment.

EDIT: also, you were a total jerk to the Rioter... If I were Riot and saw this, I would not lift your chat restriction.

The Cream Reaper1/10/2018, 7:42:15 AM2 votes

(05:07:52 AM) Opti: Me and my team make up the Player Support team. No one above us handles tickets or chats, because we're perfectly equipped to do so. There is no one higher to appeal to.

if nothing else, your post was useful in it's own way. i did not know that^

Mynorikos1/10/2018, 7:07:26 AM1 votes

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BladeSteel1/11/2018, 3:16:05 AM1 votes

You seem like the morons who would call into the call center I worked at and asked "why do I owe you $500?" and the answer is that they haven't paid for 4 months, then they demand a supervisor and get told the same thing again. Demanding a supervisor does nothing to help you, just makes you look like an idiot, especially when you're in the wrong, and especially when there isn't anyone above them that takes tickets or calls. Report that employee all you want, he won't get in trouble for it, he was in the right, and he did nothing wrong.

Arumn1/10/2018, 7:42:08 AM1 votes

I actually thing this is absurd stating a fact that a current champ that someone picked is useless in a meta then be assaulted about it then sayin they were going to report him should NOT be a bannable offense...yes we don't have all the facts here but its quite clear what he wasn't meant as harassment or negativity he was trying to say out of trouble by stating he was going to report him and further conversation was pointless(odds are he also muted).

Also the road that opti took was NOT professional AT ALL I have worked customer service in help desks for SEVERAL MULTI BILLION DOLLAR companies and to be told that no supervisors will take his request is a joke. AT ANY help desk one a customer requests a supervisor you are required to pass them on to a supervisor not say "there is no supervisor that takes these type of calls" That will just irk the consumer and make it worse YOU NEVER DO THAT REGARDLESS OF HOW BIG YOU ARE...and I have worked for business that are WAY BIGGER then Riot games Tencent in america sooo that claim is false alone and deserves some looking at alone.

Also having only 1/10th / 1/5th of the conversation shown is also very bias you are legit trying to make the person that say something bad...if you take something someone said in a conversation of 5 people out of context OF COURSE you will make him look bad. is a bad system and the tribunal does need to come back.

SnyperWulff1/10/2018, 8:28:35 AM1 votes

You got what you deserved. It does not matter, what was said by other players. You are judged on your merits and yours alone. If I read that right, and you are in the military, you should know better. You should know about accepting responsibility for your actions and yours alone.

All you are doing at this point is making it worse on yourself.

On the other hand, I hope that Tantrum sees this, I want to hear what he has to say about it.

Peritheus1/10/2018, 11:32:09 AM1 votes

Alright, um, listen, just wow, Your sayings and such would of been acceptable back in the day,because it's just banter and small talk with the low population relaxed,community which knew eachother, but... ever since the fluctuation of new generations came boustling about, (they get easily hurt by peoples words over the littlest things etching away at them little by little driving them into a breakdown) the rules and such have changed, It's literally stressful lawyer talk, even if you are a saint or a clown genocide enthusiast, your words are your biggest enemy, even if the other person was completely in the wrong, upsetting you, 1 little word and bam! hence why you are here before the court, and not many, many, MANY ever make it out of this not guilty, because it's practically setting you up like a Salem witch trial even if you had over 1000 messages of friendly conversations about how to make a pineapple pizza, beeep bo boop 1 bad word detected!, you are getting your cheeks clapped. It's an awful 1 sided blind perspective system only because so many people report nowadays and they aren't that good at judging it like a simple case like Judge Judy would in a matter of a few mins with a simple 1 hour log of everyone speaking for every report.

Anyway, the word "report" has become an offense now, I'm not gonna repeat some sob past story involving it that nobody asked for... even though it was quoted by the enemy team JERRRY It's so absurd I legit can just play a champ I'm not good at, die a few times, get flamed at and the moment they say something like report so and so, bam, there's my "he reaching for his gun" ticket; immediately legit like fastest ban I've ever seen in my life took like less than a 1 min waiting in queue and generally these reports take like weeks, months, days.

P.S. Sorry for the bad Grammar and English, It's hard to accept this, but you legit can not "Communicate" anymore in the game with these emotionally weak/abusive players because everyone's has a itchy trigger finger on the report button, tbh it's a complete mess and it'll probably never change future generations screwed etc etc even if you give em a thrashing or a teaching, it's gonna bounce right off their submerged brickwall in space self, since you didn't earn their emotional heart, only got locked out, I don't blame you, gets everyone a lot of times before they finally learn how to deal with it.

TheProfezzor1/11/2018, 1:39:31 AM1 votes

Ok so you def don’t deserve punishment for the chat in game but damn man, can you not comprehend after he said 5 times it’s not verbal abuse but negative attitude (which I again don’t agree with the punishment). You talk about your adc was incompetent but honestly your convo with support not only made you look incompetent but that you have anger issues.