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Kovah··3 votes·840 views

I won't lie, I've definitely been toxic to people before. I've definitely raged at people before, but what is too far? Me personally, I have been a gamer for a long time, and with that I actually enjoy a little back and forth banter. It makes me feel like im playing with other mature people who like to have a bit of fun with some healthy trash talk (That's right, there is such a thing as HEALTHY trash talk). I don't like when people are forced into being something they are not, and required to be goody goody all the time.

With that being said, when does a statement turn from ok, to not ok? I just recently got out of a game and let me tell you the brief exchange of words in context; I had barely talked, and this other player had barely talked the entire game.

me - goes to split push Team -pushes other lane me - distracts 4 of them, then dies "why aren't you guys pushing" Ashe -"what does it look like we are doing?" me- "you guys cant get one tower? there are 4 of them on me" Ashe- "why dont you shut the fuck up" me- "wow dude its just a game why do you have to get so serious about it and start calling people names?" Ashe -"oh im sorry, go kill yourself" me- "...wow enjoy the game guy"

And that's it... Really? I mean... really? What kind if interaction is this? We won the game by a landslide by the way. There was zero tension in this game. Completely ruined the victory for me, it was completely unwarranted and frankly not even trash talk, just straight up being a bad person.

What do you guys think? Anyone else have any experiences like this?

@Riot - why can some players be banned for normal trash talk which was between two equally participating teamates but others like this guy can go WAY over the line?

Edit : Just so that people are aware, I'm not trying to say I approached it the best I could. I'm just pointing out what it my mind is a disproportionate response to what I said that crosses some sort of line.

10 Comments

ButtheCatCameBak4 votes

You were not in the wrong here. While what you said was abrasive, the response was VASTLY out of proportion to what you said. Could yo have said it more diplomatically? Yes. Was the response in any way deserved or proportional to your comment? Not even close.

disregardable3 votes

You think the problem is with that other guy? YOU started the negative interaction. You noticed that he wasn't receptive, and CONTINUED it. It's quite possible that guy isn't normally like that, and it takes someone to bother him for that to happen.

Kovah2 votes

The point wasn't that I did not handle it well, the point was that while my reaction may have not been the best, it was not breaking any boundaries. He escalated it to the point that it is no longer normal game banter and became straight up toxicity.

disregardable2 votes

I disagree. If you shifted blame, insulted our team, and elongated arguments several times like that I totally would've reported you.

Kovah3 votes

Shifted blame? I was asking a question so I would have more information to go off and make a better decision next time. Insulted the team? what? dude you are seriously thin skinned. Elongated the argument? I was not arguing with him, rather, trying to calm him down. You really have the wrong idea here and seem like you are trying to troll tbh.

disregardable4 votes

No, I come on these boards a lot man. If you actually wanted the chat to be neutral, you would've muted him and said nothing. You wanted to argue instead. What you're doing, refusing to take any responsibility for being negative in chat and then calling the other guy toxic, is how people get punished.

Neranos2 votes

I agree with you on many points here, trash talking can be healthy and fun as long as everyone is on board with it. That Ashe also crossed a ling and deserved at the very least a report, which I'm guessing you probably did anyways after the match.

However, I would like to mention that while I do believe trash talking can be healthy, you have to consider a few things when playing in an environment like this. We can only express so much through text and sometimes it's difficult to tell when someone is joking or being serious without other elements of communication such as tone of voice or body language. Also keep in mind that while you and another player might be having fun and happily trash-talking each other with no genuine ill-will, there's potentially 8 other people in the match with you that may or may not know that it's not a full-blown rage-war taking place in the chat box and they can potentially file reports for comments that make them uncomfortable, even if not directed at them.

Murford1 votes

While their reaction was bad, you were asking for it by questioning their ability. While you never used the actual words "wow you guys suck," that's the perception you gave off by questioning why they didn't get a tower. You came off as arrogant, and it's a natural reaction to be defensive in those instances.

Kovah3 votes

I agree that I shouldn't have said anything, but his reaction? Definitely unacceptable imo.

LMQ XiaoWeiXiao1 votes

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