teach me how to deal with people who don't group intentionally?

miightofdemacia·1/28/2020, 4:09:14 PM·12 votes·10,554 views

I had a game where everyone won their lane, but we lost game because the enemy notice they were getting their ass kicked so they started always grouping. I tell my teammates to group but everyone says to just chill and they were doing this or this (usually something insignificant like jungle camps or farming a lane) while everyone else gets picked off one by one. No one wants to group when I ask and then we eventually lose game. It's so frustrating because we should have won that but people decide to loaf around and not group and not take game serious so I lose. What am I supposed to do about that? I fucking hate low elo and the mindset of low skill players.

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Knife88Edge1/28/2020, 5:03:14 PM5 votes

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I had a game where everyone won their lane, but we lost game because the enemy notice they were getting their ass kicked so they started always grouping. I tell my teammates to group but everyone says to just chill and they were doing this or this (usually something insignificant like jungle camps or farming a lane) while everyone else gets picked off one by one. No one wants to group when I ask and then we eventually lose game. It's so frustrating because we should have won that but people decide to loaf around and not group and not take game serious so I lose. What am I supposed to do about that? I fucking hate low elo and the mindset of low skill players.

Just accept that people have a different view on how to play the game... maybe because they think they're right or they don't have enough game knowledge. Ask them out nicely. If they don't, don't stress it out. Just play your game and see things were you can improve. Because you can only change things that you have control of.... and unfortunately that doesn't include your teammates if they're stubborn.

By looking at this perspective, you'll save yourself some mental frustration and will help you to not easily tilt your own game.

UF Dan1/28/2020, 7:27:26 PM5 votes

Spam ping right on their face. If you're in an elo where people are actual brainless drones then pick a champ that can appropriately 1v5, don't rely on your teammates, and force a win by yourself. Eventually you'll reach an elo where spam pinging is enough to make your team group/split correctly

Metal Janna1/28/2020, 8:12:23 PM5 votes

Getting the team to group is always my biggest problem in teamfight phase. If it's just one who's determined to split you can just group up on him, but if it's everyone then your choices are ask nicely or give up and die.

Ginger9761/28/2020, 7:22:03 PM4 votes

Gonna be honest.....

Nothing you can do about it. It's the nature of the game. All you can do is try to shotcall. If they don't listen, there's literally nothing you can do. Or maybe you can just get really really good at champs that can 1v9.

TheFakeMrobby1/29/2020, 12:01:09 PM3 votes

League is a game about objectives, I wouldn’t group for no reason. I have won countless games that should be lost thanks to split-pushing. At the same time I also might have won a few games I did lose if I actually grouped with the crying adc/support/mid. Then again most of the time lower skilled players take those roles (at least the first 2), so I shouldn’t be so harsh in judging my own efforts at trying to win the game when the ally Raman,thresh,nautilus etc.... thinks it’s good idea to initiate a good old 4v5 when Im getting inner turrets. But yeah for Elo”s gold and below grouping is usually your best bet. Especially when your champion can team fight effectively

RyzeRework1/28/2020, 7:38:52 PM3 votes

I usually will group with the strongest people. Theres no problem splitting the map especially when somones so fed they have to send a bunch of people you kinda just gotta time it so that you will be as far pushed up as they are so you can get a tower(s) off of it

A1laku1/29/2020, 9:48:04 AM2 votes

You don't necessarily have to group up to play as a team lmao, you still got a lot to learn. If they're splitting in other lanes make sure you do your part and give them pressure to work with if you got time to b!tch about it rofl. What you're suggesting is putting all your eggs into one basket cuz you expect everything to go right but if it doesn't and all the eggs break you're gonna cry.

Wínters Dawn1/28/2020, 11:36:28 PM2 votes

If in splitting because I genuinely think it's a good idea and one of my teammates calls me stupid or what not ya I'm gonna keep splitting. Ask me nicely or suggest it's a good idea for me to come I actually will think about it.

Just saying if you lashed out on the player in any way that's a good way to keep them away from you.

Josh Sand1/29/2020, 3:12:20 PM2 votes

Depending on your role and class, you can still have an impact if your team refuses to group. As to whether or not that impact will tilt the game to a win is completely up in the air - but at least you have more of a say in the outcome.

You can't force people to do anything in this game, so if they refuse to group - just stop trying to convince them, and stop dying in the effort in trying to do it by yourself. You have no control over your team. Your teammates are either the type of player that will grow a big brain and adjust to the conditions of a losing match, or they are the type of player that keeps headbutting a brick wall, long after their shattered derpy helmet is in pieces on the floor.

At some point you have to bail on team tactics, and let them sort it out themselves. This is completely counter intuitive to a team based game, but this is Solo Q.

I've had games before where I've literally had to split push as a Zilean or Zyra support, because my team was just not grouping for objectives (areas that my champs WANT to play in). But truthfully there isn't any value to dying when the opposing team is going to take an objective regardless if you are there or not.

What you can do, is shove waves and create lane pressure, as safely as you can. Even if you are a support that has half the gold of the lead player in the game, you can still tie up an opposing player by forcing them to catch a crashing wave.

If you as a 5k gold Champion take a 10k gold Champion off the map for a few moments by making them catch waves, you might be able to create a 4v4 for your team, purely based on map position, and without actually telling them to group.

Granted, this is a worst case scenario. Just remember you are going to find yourself in unwinnable solo q games sometimes. It just happens. If you play a solo carry champion, that will happen less, but having a garbage team always going to be a factor in solo q, regardless of what elo you are in. It's kind of a stupid reality of this game that might never change.

Yin Yang Taoist2/6/2020, 7:24:57 PM1 votes

OP. I have the solution. Just type, "Dance party in Baron pit!" and voila. [sg-syndra]

Tele II1/30/2020, 12:49:43 AM1 votes

Stop going out alone despite them doing something else and getting picked off? Idk. People who do that tend to lose games, so thats all that happens. You lose. Your team was bested. Thats how it goes.

Evil Natasha1/29/2020, 10:06:59 AM1 votes

A better question might be "how do I get the team that isn't trying to lose?". You can't. Dumb freakin' luck every time.