Riot does punish, but its not enough (here's an idea)

Sorin Alucard··1 votes·422 views

Riot really should have an entire vid series dedicated to player conduct giving both good and bad examples of how to behave in game.

We have kids to adults in this game, and kids are more likely to emulate the bad behavior over the good, especially if there's absence of a meaningful swift punishment system. The punishment system exists; but its failing to take enough negative players off the rift and its failing to deter new offenders. A message that may or may not appear telling you gj on getting someone punished doesn't even remotely begin to satisfy in comparison to hours and game after game ruined.

I propose a video series that shows all kinds of examples of trolling and passive-aggressive throwing. Update with a new report category and put trolling/ passive-aggressive throwing into that category. Put a specific group dedicated to investigating this report category and lets continue to kick shit that ruins the game out.

I love this game, but the whole time I've been apart of it there's been this ongoing battle for the soul of the community and the positive, pleasant players are losing out.

Give these kids and adults a clear, easy, champion spotlight-esque series focused on what and what not to do towards other players. End the debate amongst players of what should and should not be considered "bullshit behavior". Set a fkn standard and hammer it down in iron or this game will eventually go the way of Dark Souls: full of assholes and unless you got the skill to beat everyone a shit experience of a video game.

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ModUlanopo3 votes

I like this idea, but I'm not sure it could properly enunciate the difference between trolling and poor play.

Sorin Alucard1 votes

That's why it has to be a team, and why it has to be a series and not just "a video".

It should cover chat use, running it down mid, afk farming all game, avoiding teamfights on purpose, etc.

Literally cover all the ways you can ruin a game on purpose step by step until there is no more excuses available. Give examples of what you should do too.

Think of it

Phreak is doing VO for a top lane gank that goes bad. They give examples of the jg and top fighting. They give a few examples of griefing/trolling due to the fight, then they give an examples of encouragement, attempting positivity, and then encouraging the mute/report/play on if it doesn't work at the end.

Enough of these videos and you can cover the supp who pretends to supp out of spite, the divers, the gank baiters, the anivia/kench/trundle trolls, champ select etiquette etc

bronco v22 votes

I think there should be demos for context when people review reports instead of just text because it is really too vague to know what actually went on, same with feeding reports based on KDA, how can you know if someone was intentionally feeding without a demo to watch? You can't

Jamaree1 votes

Why does society expected to be told how to be a decent human being, why is it such a hard concept for some people?

Sorin Alucard1 votes

Apparently it needs to be spelled out for people

Jamaree1 votes

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Apparently it needs to be spelled out for people

Why?

Sorin Alucard1 votes

Because as much as we'd like to live in a fantasy world where everyone knows what human decency is, we don't.

I thought it would be common sense not to troll strangers, not to insult and disrespect people you don't even know, but behold it happens all the time. Players are spiteful, vindictive, narrow-minded and stubborn. If people were just decent we wouldn't have to say anything. There wouldn't be reports

sanshaoye1 votes

why does everyone have to conform to your values and your notion of "decency"? we will play the game as we like - and as far as the system allows

Sorin Alucard1 votes

In the case of League there is plenty of legible material that clearly state sportsmanship and respect towards others in-game is the standard. IE decency is expected of you from the system. The issue is enforcement.

Clarifications about what breaks the code of etiquette would hopefully help end debates over how far you can push your behavior before punishment is deserved.

If you didn't want to be told what decency was and how to conduct yourself you shouldn't have signed the agreement and played the game.

They're not just "my" notions of the word.

sanshaoye1 votes

so the code tells you exactly what you can say or not say. stop the BS and self-delusion please

ModThe Djinn1 votes

I'm not sure would work as well as we'd like. I feel like a lot of the people who would benefit from such a video simply wouldn't watch it.

That said, I'd be interested to see if there really is a lot of community interest in this idea.

Sorin Alucard1 votes

it should be promoted front page of home in client.

ModThe Djinn1 votes

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it should be promoted front page of home in client.

That would work for a day or two, but that's very valuable space for Riot promotions and news, and isn't a long-term solution, I think. :(

Sorin Alucard1 votes

it could rotate like all the other video notifications. Quick links to review oldest to new could be put up somewhere else in the client.

sanshaoye1 votes

so the code tells you exactly what you can say or not say. stop the BS and self-delusion please

Sorin Alucard1 votes

I think you just want to argue for the sake of arguing at this point. You asked questions and I answered

Take your salt elsewhere kiddo

[slayer-pantheon-popcorn]

nerak231 votes

The ideal seems great to begin with but I have "1" very real worry:

By showing negative actions it teaches 'new' players how to be disruptive.


Please don't dismiss this premise w/o some thought about it. I have seen first-hand in another area of this site exactly how showing negatives only provide a way for certain people to exploit the system.

Sorin Alucard1 votes

I wouldn't dismiss that as a possible circumstance, but I think the good would outweigh the bad. I don't think it would happen too often either.

I mean in the first place the videos are a re-enforcement of what could get you reported and banned. If the videos are made, Riot has more grounds to punish people more quickly for trolling rather than letting them do it over and over before they can justify punishment. At this point in time being a new player to league sucks IMO. Helpful people in game are rare and Riot only has so much material.

Also, we really won't know until we try.

nerak231 votes

Sorin Alucard

I actually support your ideals and I hope you continue to post them :) ....I was only pointing out a part of what has to be dealt with on every decision.

Good Job and keep trying :))

Sorin Alucard1 votes

ty that actually means a lot to me. I try to help

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