Personal experience, I love surrender votes. Some times a hyper carry that supposed to be weak early gets fed. That’s gg. There’s no point in the remaining game that they “fall off” or anyone is stronger than them. They are built to 1v9 late game down to the core of the champion design.
When I see people not surrendering vs the 7/1 Kassadin or Twitch, I just wonder what they think will happen? These are champions built to kill TEAMS of champions instantly late game, and so if they can do that NOW, what do they see happening? That they haven’t already proven themselves the better player by getting those 7 kills while in the weak part of their champions scaling? That they can win by focusing a champion DESIGNED to escape or not care?
I get sometimes the surrender is early, but given that it requires 4 people to surrender after 20 minutes, if your not the one surrendering, their all probably seeing something your not. I don’t mind losing, but it had better be because I lost a fair and even fight, not a slog fest where the only reason the enemy team hasn’t ended the game yet is lack of cordination.
A 30 minute game of slowly dying is not playing the game, it’s a waste of time. Being able to read more than the kill score line is important. Tower gold, objectives like dragons, cs scores, map pressure. When I surrender and some masochist doesn’t saying “we can win”, they are ignoring one or all of these.
Bit of an angry rant, but I get so tired of being held hostage in my games when all the enemy team has to do is group mid and take our base. I usually wind up all chatting
“I’m being held hostage by my team, please take baron and group as 5 mid, we can’t stop you though I’ll do my best to”
These games are OVER, the enemy just doesn’t coordinate enough to actually do it.... I went straight back into rant mode. Sorry... sorta of.