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Picanha96·1/2/2017, 5:14:03 PM·1 votes·1,329 views

Is asserting diseases are not a choice in contrast with Race and Orientation culpable, much less deserving a permanent ban in the EUNE boards?

I choose to like women.

And even though I myself did not choose to be white my father made the conscious decision to have a child knowing that I will be white. Likewise black and asian parents are choosing their ofspring race when they are choosing to father them or not.

Not I nor Anyone choose I myself to have cancer.

I cannot contact support anymore. I get a cannot login error. Riot's lawyers never answer my emails.
I get Anger Issues with the Game and the fault is not the game's it is mine. I am not proud of it but neither am I ashamed. I have talked with my psychiatrist and they urge me to seek social help from our game community.

Even though I myself , my deceased Paternal Grandfather and a Granduncle of mine who is a Jesuit priest(You got why I am agnosticist I would very much appreciate the existance of a Benevolent Omnipotent Omnisciencent God but I very much doubt the existence of one and I fail to understand how could there be one if there is) himself all suffer from cancer.

Myself in the Right CerebelloPontine Angle of the Brainstem. My Grandfather prostate My Maternal Grandmother's Older Brother in the liver.

Remember I never wrote down anything. I get extremely seething to the extent I wish cancer to my Friend and my five years Younger Brother's friends for breaching an agreement of how a custom will unfold.

Maybe the game community bleached my feelings to the point I feel happier wishing Cancer(through Skype always never Written) than I feel Offended by it... I find it nice even though I did not use to. I feel cynical and guilty.

I want support's help but I cannot log in....

Always Verbally never Written but an Offence is an Offence.

44 Comments

TrulyBland1/2/2017, 5:57:23 PM2 votes

A lot of people in your family seem to have cancer, which suggests a genetic component. Guess what else has a genetic component: Sexual orientation. Guess what is 100% genetic: Race.

Your definition of choice is extremely weird in my opinion, but using your definition, it is obvious that cancer is, in fact, a choice. How/Why? I don't know. It's your weird definition. If you asked me, I'd say none of these are a choice.

Jo0o1/2/2017, 6:10:28 PM2 votes

What the fuck even is this thread.

GreatWhiteNorth1/2/2017, 10:52:32 PM2 votes

People are downvoting because they find what you wrote confusing. It has a lot of details, but no context. It is thoughts and facts without a story, and the vast majority of people are incapable of understanding anything outside of a narrative context. However I understand what you are saying and am appalled at your racism. Try not to use other people as an outlet for your anger. Anger can only be cured within.

YerroFever1/4/2017, 9:34:31 PM2 votes

Ok. So this is going to be long. I am going to explain what I referred to previously as the theories of punishment. Under the dominant theories of punishment in the US, there are five purposes of punishment

Incapacitate the offender - Remove the person so they can no longer hurt society.
Bring Restitution - Make the offender make amends to the victim make them whole for the offense committed.
Deterrence - prevent repeats of an offense through punishment. This can be specific deterrence where this punishment is meant to prevent this person from repeating their offense, or this can be general deterrence which is meant to use the person as an example so that no others copy that person's offense.
Rehabilitation - This is to try and fix a person's behavior so they no longer want to commit an offense.
Retribution - this is just punishment to get even. Like eye for an eye.

What you are asking for is general deterrence but you want it out of retribution.

You want to make a spectacle of someone to discourage others from doing what that person did but you want this to be done in a form that allows public shaming, (you want to post their name on the forums and what they did wrong). Unfortunately public shaming does not work and it does not drive social progress.

Social sanctions only work when someone wants to be a part of that social group, otherwise it is a divisive tactic. Back in the old days, people were punished by being put in the stocks where the public could throw rotten food at them. The reason why people stopped doing this is not because it was barbaric but because it was generally ineffective.

Most of the time, people find sneakier tactics to harass you, which is why currently there is a plague of ping spamming. Before, you could mute and ignore someone but then people discovered pings are not muted and not ignored and they can spam your screen and speakers with pings to harass you if they believe you have muted and ignored them.

Also, despite the visibility of how shameful people act on the internet, recourse on the forums is actually useless. It is easy to disappear in league. Change user names or create new accounts or just not go on the boards at all. They can choose to ignore the boards if they wanted to.

There is also a problem in that you want this out of retribution. You want revenge on the person who did you wrong by publicly shaming them.

This is not going to solve the problem and it will not make you feel better because you will see how useless it really is.

Public shaming feels like justice but it won't help you and it won't help the next person that they wish cancer on.

The best Riot can do is issue chat restrictions or bans if that person continues their harassment, but you have to use the reporting system and you have to give it time because there are millions of players and only so many Riot employees.

I know it sucks, but this is a struggle you have to deal with internally and it is not something Riot or this community can solve for you.

Getting resolution does not begin with punishing others but forgiving them for their misdeeds.

Don't hold onto the anger and bitterness because it's not healthy for you.

Weathered1/2/2017, 5:47:35 PM2 votes

I think you're overreacting to being banned from a video game forums.

YerroFever1/4/2017, 7:54:46 PM1 votes

Unfortunately I don't speak Portuguese nor Greek.

You say you want people to be perma banned from the boards when they tell you they hope you get cancer, right?

You also say you don't want Riot to do anything, right?

Only Riot can perma ban people. We the community cannot perma ban people from the boards. We do not have that power.

YerroFever1/4/2017, 8:35:12 PM1 votes

Why do you want Riot to disclose the private information about a forum user?

YerroFever1/4/2017, 8:44:03 PM1 votes

I am confused as to what you really want because of the language barrier and I am trying to understand what you mean with this thread.

Please pick the situation that you are talking about when someone wished you had cancer:

In Game

In the chat log Username X: Hey, I hope you get cancer

On Board Forums

In the middle of a thread

{quoted}

I hope you get cancer

YerroFever1/4/2017, 9:04:01 PM1 votes

So you are upset that you cannot post someone's name on the forums because they did something bad to you in game?

YerroFever1/10/2017, 7:18:13 PM1 votes

I did not read what? You making a quote and then citing a psychological paper abstract that does not relate to anything you said...

Grow up.

You want revenge and that's really it. You're not trying to make anything better. You just want an eye for an eye but you're claiming you want change because it makes the community better because you want to publicly shame people.

It doesn't work.

If you believe public shaming on an internet forum works to reform behavior, please prove your methods will work because the big heads in theories of punishment actually completely disagree with you.

Alpha Samsuni1/2/2017, 6:47:29 PM1 votes

I am extremely confused right now at the language of this thread... But yea..uh...I'm probably gonna be deciphering this post for ~ 10 minutes so..excuse me until then

Picanha961/2/2017, 10:49:44 PM1 votes

My supplication for help got me downvotes...

YerroFever1/4/2017, 5:54:28 PM1 votes

If you are upset about the privacy policy and the fact that Riot will not tell you the identity of JoeSchmoe1234, who wished you cancer on the forums... You have no right to know who is who and without a court order or subpoena, ie demonstrating that you know Person X is named JoeSchmoe1234 on the forums and you have a separate case against them and this is just further evidence and that taking away the privacy of an individual on a forum outweighs the risks of abuse.

Otherwise, you cannot get Riot to disclose private information, otherwise personal information can be abused, like you can start harassing them in real life because of one time someone wished you cancer on an online forum. IE you could disproportionately retaliate against someone.

If you're upset that wishing cancer on someone in an online forum is not a violation of TOS, user agreements, and/or community guidelines, that's something that should be a suggestion to be added as part of a TOS, user agreement, and/or community guideline.

YerroFever1/4/2017, 7:34:46 PM1 votes

It appears as though english is not your first language. What is your first language? If I know it, I may be able to better explain why what you are asking for makes no sense.