Riot please allow those who regain Honor levels to have their 1-4 strikes removed.

EdgarHighman·Sep 29, 2018·2 votes·1,412 views

Welp. I read of a guy who played a thousand games, got banned early on in his account for responding to rude people rudely, regained his 5 honor levels and slipped up ONE TIME a year+ later and got perma-banned (spent a lot of time, money and effort on his account - irrelevant to Riot since bad behavior is SIN AND WE DIE 100%) I think that's pretty rough. He had to work super hard to earn his honor/behavior appropriate commendations back and got murdered mercilessly in the end.

TLDR allow honor level-ups to remove account strikes. The strikes and penalties are bad enough that destroying an account will not retain players.

3 Comments

Umbral RegentSep 29, 20189 votes

First of all - and this is with no disrespect to you, but - exaggerate, much? For real, blowing Riot's policies out of proportion, and equating the permaban to "merciless murdering". No offense, but it's hard to take your post seriously when it seems so...Campy.

Second; if the player in question played enough games to regain Honor 5, I have a hard time believing he didn't de-escalate to a clean slate on his account from a 14-day ban. IIRC, the rough estimate of how long it should take to de-escalate a tier is 6~ months worth of consistent, sportsmanlike play, so if he spent a year and a half behaving, he should've been on the 10-game CR tier at the very least.

Ultimately meaning, if he broke the zero-tolerance policy the first time, netting the 14-day ban, and at least de-escalated to a 10-game CR, he'd have to have broken the zero-tolerance policy again for him to be straight-up permanently banned.

And this is all assuming that your story about the guy is even true - you don't provide any links, so as far as we know, it's all just hearsay or made-up to try and preach about how "needlessly harsh" the system is.

Players already de-escalate the punishment tiers through consistent sportsmanlike play, and it doesn't need to be tied to Honor progression, and here's one good reason why;

If Punishment tier decay was tied directly to the Honor system (meaning Honor Levels would be representative of a tier de-escalation), people would use that as a way to game the system and be consistently toxic without having to worry about losing their account, because they'd know "okay, I climbed back up to Honor 2 or whatever, now I can tell people to fuck off again", and afterwards "okay, now I'm Dishonorable again, so now I gotta wait a while before I'm free to be toxic again".

The goal of veiling the de-escalation in obscurity and giving no information about it is so that players don't decide they're in the clear and able to be toxic again - they shouldn't be toxic, and if they know there's a point where their account is treated as though they never had a penalty at all, they're going to try and abuse that so they can be toxic.

mtothe6thpowerSep 29, 20183 votes

Link?

There is a punishment tier de-escalation already in place. After playing for 3-6 months consistently showing improvement you can go down a tier. Normally going straight to a perma is a sign that they said/did some pretty egregious things, multiple instances of ZT behavior as an example, or they just didn't play enough to drop tiers and went from a 14 day to a perma as intended.

That said, I do somewhat agree with your premise tho but maybe not so lenient since it would suck for someone to get a 14 day for some ZT stuff, come back and get to honor level 3 and just be able to do it again. For every honor level you get I think you should drop half way down to the next tier of punishment, as if there's a point system. Ie, someone gets a 14 day, gets back and plays consistently nice and positive and gets honor level 1 and is games wise, halfway to the 25 CR tier, they should drop into that so if they get punished they go back to a 14 day. Or if someone goes from 0 to 5 it should wipe their slate clean.

Kei143Sep 29, 20183 votes

Eh... something doesn't sound right in that story.

If he played that many games to go back to h5, he would of decayed into a clean account status and even if he used a zero tolerance phrase, he wouldn't be instantly permabanned.

He's probably not telling the whole truth.