Riot please allow those who regain Honor levels to have their 1-4 strikes removed.

EdgarHighman·9/29/2018, 4:07:27 AM·2 votes·1,412 views

Welp. I read of a guy who played a thousand games, got banned early on in his account for responding to rude people rudely, regained his 5 honor levels and slipped up ONE TIME a year+ later and got perma-banned (spent a lot of time, money and effort on his account - irrelevant to Riot since bad behavior is SIN AND WE DIE 100%) I think that's pretty rough. He had to work super hard to earn his honor/behavior appropriate commendations back and got murdered mercilessly in the end.

TLDR allow honor level-ups to remove account strikes. The strikes and penalties are bad enough that destroying an account will not retain players.

3 Comments

Umbral Regent9/29/2018, 4:35:01 AM9 votes

First of all - and this is with no disrespect to you, but - exaggerate, much? For real, blowing Riot's policies out of proportion, and equating the permaban to "merciless murdering". No offense, but it's hard to take your post seriously when it seems so...Campy.

Second; if the player in question played enough games to regain Honor 5, I have a hard time believing he didn't de-escalate to a clean slate on his account from a 14-day ban. IIRC, the rough estimate of how long it should take to de-escalate a tier is 6~ months worth of consistent, sportsmanlike play, so if he spent a year and a half behaving, he should've been on the 10-game CR tier at the very least.

Ultimately meaning, if he broke the zero-tolerance policy the first time, netting the 14-day ban, and at least de-escalated to a 10-game CR, he'd have to have broken the zero-tolerance policy again for him to be straight-up permanently banned.

And this is all assuming that your story about the guy is even true - you don't provide any links, so as far as we know, it's all just hearsay or made-up to try and preach about how "needlessly harsh" the system is.

Players already de-escalate the punishment tiers through consistent sportsmanlike play, and it doesn't need to be tied to Honor progression, and here's one good reason why;

If Punishment tier decay was tied directly to the Honor system (meaning Honor Levels would be representative of a tier de-escalation), people would use that as a way to game the system and be consistently toxic without having to worry about losing their account, because they'd know "okay, I climbed back up to Honor 2 or whatever, now I can tell people to fuck off again", and afterwards "okay, now I'm Dishonorable again, so now I gotta wait a while before I'm free to be toxic again".

The goal of veiling the de-escalation in obscurity and giving no information about it is so that players don't decide they're in the clear and able to be toxic again - they shouldn't be toxic, and if they know there's a point where their account is treated as though they never had a penalty at all, they're going to try and abuse that so they can be toxic.

mtothe6thpower9/29/2018, 4:26:25 AM3 votes

Link?

There is a punishment tier de-escalation already in place. After playing for 3-6 months consistently showing improvement you can go down a tier. Normally going straight to a perma is a sign that they said/did some pretty egregious things, multiple instances of ZT behavior as an example, or they just didn't play enough to drop tiers and went from a 14 day to a perma as intended.

That said, I do somewhat agree with your premise tho but maybe not so lenient since it would suck for someone to get a 14 day for some ZT stuff, come back and get to honor level 3 and just be able to do it again. For every honor level you get I think you should drop half way down to the next tier of punishment, as if there's a point system. Ie, someone gets a 14 day, gets back and plays consistently nice and positive and gets honor level 1 and is games wise, halfway to the 25 CR tier, they should drop into that so if they get punished they go back to a 14 day. Or if someone goes from 0 to 5 it should wipe their slate clean.

Kei1439/29/2018, 11:59:30 AM3 votes

Eh... something doesn't sound right in that story.

If he played that many games to go back to h5, he would of decayed into a clean account status and even if he used a zero tolerance phrase, he wouldn't be instantly permabanned.

He's probably not telling the whole truth.