A riot employee said "hatespeech is zero tolerance"

Its Ketsuki·Mar 19, 2017·30 votes·4,882 views

So I've reported numerous people who call people N///rs and F//ts yet I never receive a report feedback on those cases at all. and i've seen posts on the forum where a riot employee told a person that he did not do any prior offenses leading to his permaban but since he called someone a F/g he was permabanned

Which is completely understandable and he shouldn't have done that but i've seen way more hatespeech and SEVERE hatespeech be used and never once does a pop up come and say Hey there you did the right thing and we punished someone basically

49 Comments

Reket DeAlkMar 19, 201720 votes

You only get the pop up if it was your report that causes them to get punished. So if they get a punishment the next game you wouldn't see it.

I'm pretty sure they're working on fixing that so you get more viability from your reports. Cause the way it is right now causes a lot of people to think the system isn't working because they don't see the pop up.

But yes, stuff like that is zero tolerance and when they do get caught (Assuming they do it on a regular enough basis) then they'll skip the chat restrictions and get a 14 day ban at least.

Its KetsukiMar 19, 20174 votes

there was a board topic a few months ago where a riot member responded when he asked why he didn't get a 10 game mute for calling someone a F/g and the riot member stated that even without prior offenses zero tolerance is for hatespeech and you will be permabanned

Magical PlayerMar 19, 20171 votes

Find it

deathgod5Mar 19, 20172 votes

here ya go

http://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/player-behavior-moderation/qtzmT5ci-appeal-a-14-day-suspension?comment=000100000001

Magical PlayerMar 19, 20177 votes

He was called in a discord channel Riot can not verify this riot can not act on it the user "You opt-ed into a Discord experience, and were the one to bleed the negativity from there into the game."

Very 1st line of that statement

deathgod5Mar 19, 20172 votes

my bad read the comment like right above that

There is no possible scenario in which this would penalize you. You cannot be penalized for what other people say/do.

You are responsible for your own words and actions. Riot Games has a zero-tolerance policy towards hate speech. Whoever types it is responsible.

my apologies, I tried the comment redirect function and I failed.

Magical PlayerMar 19, 20173 votes

Nw https://i.redd.it/4hg19xrhcqdy.jpg for future reference :D not for you personally but spread the word

Its KetsukiMar 19, 20171 votes

this was not the post though actually :# the person was called like "Anuksaman" or whatever something weird like that

deathgod5Mar 19, 20171 votes

hmm my bad then, just went back because I remembered a similar post. It still had the no tolerance for hate speech tho

Its KetsukiMar 19, 20171 votes

also i said a few months ago not a day ago :P

Supreme Senpai69Mar 19, 20171 votes

I can't find it but I can vouch for him in that I've seen it posted by a red name around the board a few times

Magical PlayerMar 19, 20171 votes

I'm not disagreeing with that a riot member said it But it would help others believe riot employees say it quite often I would assume

EvilDustManMar 19, 20174 votes

It is zero tolerance. Is it possible something slipped by? Sure.

But there's a reason our mantra us Mute, Report, and Move On.

Report them, then stop dwelling on it. You don't really serve yourself by dwelling on the people after the game is over and you've reported them.

Magical PlayerMar 19, 20173 votes

If someone reported them right after you they get the notification also a game before could of been the trigger to the punishment as such you also don't get the notification

Great MutaMar 19, 20172 votes

Yep. One of the biggest problems in the game is that they make rules like this, and then people break them and nothing happens.

Magical PlayerMar 19, 20173 votes

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Yep. One of the biggest problems in the game is that they make rules like this, and then people break them and nothing happens.

https://i.redd.it/4hg19xrhcqdy.jpg

CaveslothMar 19, 20172 votes

Yeah I have 0 faith in them, since the fact is you can use the term autistic as a insult and its not considered hate speech. I'm sure autistic people find this just as offensive as calling a little person a midget or calling a black person the N word. Yet this is completely common in league and in general, and it shouldn't be acceptable.

Warlord ScrapMar 19, 20171 votes

it only notifies you if you were the report that got him punished

Wiggle Dat ButtMar 19, 20171 votes

Sounds to me like the liberal Hillary-lovers need to stop being so sensitive and actually work for something in life instead of trying to cry about reports.

Its KetsukiMar 19, 20179 votes

See I voted trump so people like You would have to go to work. instead of posting memes all day and browsing meme sites all night. but thank you for your pitiful comment

Synnx7Mar 19, 20172 votes

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See I voted trump so people like You would have to go to work. instead of posting memes all day and browsing meme sites all night. but thank you for your pitiful comment

You voted TRUMP? [zombie-brand-facepalm] [zombie-brand-clap]

Janna mìdMar 19, 20172 votes

It's okay I'm pretty sure he feels sorry about it after those 2 months

Sraeg2013Mar 19, 20171 votes

And why do YOU care?

You don't even live in USA, how can you possibly know the whole picture?

Its KetsukiMar 19, 20173 votes

Why wouldn't i vote trump? I would have voted bernie but instead they made it hillary and hell. to. the. damn. no. that i'm voting for her she offered 0 progress 0 change

Synnx7Mar 19, 20171 votes

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Its KetsukiMar 19, 20171 votes

that's a death threat? alright. typical.

StonePlatypusMar 19, 20171 votes

I've basically given up Riot actually caring. I've sent reports when people use the N word and have said horrible things that they should get banned for. Of course Riot doesn't care and in fact I don't think anyone really gets banned, they couldn't make money that way.

Oh sure they throw a ban here or there to the worst of the accounts, but from my experience you can throw the N word around and then just not say it for a few games, then you can say it again.

You just have to beat Riots "system" (if you can call it that) and not do it all the time. Its how Riot lets people say the N word. They clearly don't want to punish people for using it, they want money.

AptestMar 19, 20171 votes

I am much more comfortable if riot's actual policy is not zero tolerance.

zero tolerance is zero brain and is very likely to flag the rougher side of valid communication as something it is not.

Also, what is F//ts ?

LeetriMar 19, 20171 votes

Look up "bundle of sticks" and you should be able to figure it out.

AptestMar 19, 20171 votes

How is that a form of hate speech ?

RintamMar 19, 20171 votes

It's a deragatory slur for a homosexual.

AptestMar 19, 20171 votes

In what way is it derogatory ("this guy is a piece of shit"), rather than simply descriptive ("this guy's skin is colored brown")?

RintamMar 19, 20171 votes

It has historical connotations to the times that homosexuals were massacred or discriminated against.

AptestMar 19, 20171 votes

And that makes it derogatory? how?

RintamMar 21, 20171 votes

The connotation behind it.

AptestMar 22, 20171 votes

how does historical connotation constitute a derogatory term? what is the mechanism?

Its KetsukiMar 19, 20171 votes

F./.G.G/T/S easier for you? the term N//GRS is not color. it's not nero. negro. like every other country would use and it's not "black"

AptestMar 19, 20172 votes

First of all, I was asking about "the other word".

Secondly it is very simple and easy for me to show you that Nigeria the Country is not a derogatory term. Simply put, the culture of black Americans is full to the brim with it. If they people who are suppose to be insulted by a word use it lavishly and extensively, than obviously it is not a derogatory term to them or to anyone else.

h5LYF41LamMar 19, 20171 votes

welcome to the internet,riot is trying to protect the 13-16 audience from this behavior but pretty much on every game you play or chatroom you go in this happens.

MusMar 19, 20171 votes

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Its KetsukiMar 19, 20171 votes

there is never an excuse to call someone the N word or call someone a F/gt NEVER it's not in any way excusable

reiko57Mar 19, 20171 votes

this is why i report feeders for racism. i never figured they cared about inting or harrassment, but i know they care about racism, so in my mind, it's the only possible way of getting them banned- hope they have a couple "racist or homophobic" strikes and an automated system sees the report and finishes them off. dying more than once the same way (in ranked) is so much more offensive to me than racism, these people deserve permanent bans across all accounts.

Its KetsukiMar 19, 20172 votes

oh yes i could care less about people flapping their gums but going 1-19-4 while at it within 40minutes deserves 3day ban or more

MonkeyMadnessMar 19, 20171 votes

This is because Riot's punishment system is about as transparent as a brick wall, and they are literally as dishonest about how it works as is possible. If you have any actual questions regarding how bad it is, just ask anyone with a history of a flagged account (ie me). Never been permabanned, but my account has been flagged since season 2, and there's literally nothing I can do about it, regardless of how much I reform (and I've reformed A LOT).

Magical PlayerMar 19, 20172 votes

If the wall was transparent would everyone know exactly how the system worked?

OtherworldzMar 20, 20171 votes

Any punishment done by the instant feedback system will tell you that your report was verified and a punishment was given. All other punishments are audits of that person's account and match/chat history and they cannot inform you of the outcome of their audit. You shouldn't report someone out of vindictiveness, hoping they will get punished... you should be reporting someone because it's the right thing to do and move on from there.

Its KetsukiMar 20, 20171 votes

i only report scum who use hatespeech and such

Ward BaronMar 20, 20171 votes

I've been told to "kill myself" many times, played with people named "ni//er" something, said it and never gotten anything popup they have been punished lol

TheWizBiz7Jul 11, 20181 votes

We all know that pretty much EVERY game there is one or even two people who are being immature or toxic, or maybe they have been playing 8 games in a row and they want to be silly with their friends and SOMEONE gets mad. The "zero tolerance" claim is a total joke. I have had 3 accounts banned and have spent money on all of them and I never did things or said anything as bad as calling people N...ers or anything hateful. Mostly got banned for telling people they are assholes for doing asshole-ish things like following me around and taking my kills or badgering me for sucking. Either way it is the Internet, we should expect this kind of behavior and be able to ignore it and not report people and have their games and accounts taken away FOREVER because they annoyed you in one match of this REPUTABLY TOXIC game. Permanent bans at the very least should be appealable after a certain amount of time. This game is going to be toxic and stay toxic, the thing that hurts the game the most is the "short leash" that targets new players that are frustrated with the ALREADY toxic community.