Why can you still get banned for saying "retarded" in 2018?

Annies Nipples··5 votes·13,332 views

Retarded hasn't been a medical term since 2013. Now it just means what it use to mean, that being "delay or hold back."

Why can you get banned for saying something that use to mean something offensive when it doesn't anymore? Any offense taken by it now is just the person being uninformed and thinking that it still means that you are mentally retarded.

Like if we are speaking literally here, calling someone retarded is the same all calling them almost literally anything random.

I'd bet my life you wouldn't get banned if you said, "you are delayed and held back." Even though in reality that all retarded means now.

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Jo0o10 votes

Better question: It's 2018, why are you still using "retarded" as an insult?

Even better question: It's 2018, why are you still insulting people on the internet? Jesus, just mute idiots and move on. Pathetic arguments mid-game have tanked so many of my recent matches. There's no fucking point in insulting your fellow players. If they're bad, they're bad.

MagicFlyingLlama9 votes

Because it is a highly offensive insult, you know exactly what it means and why you got banned.

Semantics dont give you a free pass in the real world. Or anywhere, really.

Incidentally a '%%%got' is technically a piece of wood, suitable for a fireplace.

You fucked up, learn from it and maybe learn some respect.

AlienPrimate1 votes

I find people using God's name in vain to be far more offensive than any kind of thing that gets you banned from LoL yet people do it all the time. I can report them all I want but they will never be banned. Where is the justice for me?

ModPeriscope1 votes

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Annies Nipples1 votes

Jesus Christ dude don't replace the letters of out holy lord and savior with __'s. I'm offended. And because I'm offended, even though you didn't actually say something offensive, you will be banned.

ModPeriscope1 votes

I deleted it because that statement wasn't going to do anything but detract from your main argument.

Annies Nipples1 votes

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I deleted it because that statement wasn't going to do anything but detract from your main argument.

There argument literally proves my point exactly. Something they find offensive isn't bannable. Saying Oh my God or Jesus Christ are not offensive phrases, so there is no punishment for using them. Similarly, calling someone retarded is not an offensive word. The word has a different meaning, and although, yes, you can still be offended by it, the word itself has 0 offensive implications anymore.

AlienPrimate1 votes

^ exactly what I mean.

ModPeriscope1 votes

Sorry.

AlienPrimate2 votes

First 2 words of the post I responded to. Yours is deleted so I never saw it.

Chermorg7 votes

It doesn't have to be a medical term? Last I checked, the "n word" and "f word" were never medical terms. Heck, the "r word" was actually only slightly acceptable when it was a medical term.

The common use of the word "r-ed" or "r----d" is to mean someone with mental illness. The only proper use of the word in a scientific meaning nowadays is to say "retardant" - as in something that retards something else (ex: fire retardant). Even then, it has fallen out of use to say the fire was retarded by the retardant.


The TLDR - the word is not acceptable, and is still hate speech.

Annies Nipples2 votes

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It doesn't have to be a medical term? Last I checked, the "n word" and "f word" were never medical terms. Heck, the "r word" was actually only slightly acceptable when it was a medical term.

The common use of the word "r-ed" or "r----d" is to mean someone with mental illness. The only proper use of the word in a scientific meaning nowadays is to say "retardant" - as in something that retards something else (ex: fire retardant). Even then, it has fallen out of use to say the fire was retarded by the retardant.


The TLDR - the word is not acceptable, and is still hate speech.

The N-word and F-word never being medical terms literally only proves my case. The word "retard" use to mean that you were... mentally retarded. It doesn't anymore. It's dictionary description has changed. It's a different word now than what it was. You cannot say that for the N and F word. Those words have always been offensive terms, and have never had a change in definition.

Chermorg2 votes

When people use it as an insult, it 100% is still used to mean mental illness.

YerroFever1 votes

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The N-word and F-word never being medical terms literally only proves my case. The word "retard" use to mean that you were... mentally retarded. It doesn't anymore. It's dictionary description has changed. It's a different word now than what it was. You cannot say that for the N and F word. Those words have always been offensive terms, and have never had a change in definition.

The fact that it was taken out of the medical terms makes it more offensive. It used to be in the medical terminology list but it fell out of favor due to the use of it. If it was still the medically proper term, then it would be less offensive, but you go out of your way to point out that it is no longer used in the medical community.

This means you are knowingly and intentionally calling someone a name that implies they have a mental handicap by an improper word... which could be viewed as intentionally calling someone a derogatory term for someone who has a developmental disability.

When it was in the medical lexicon, you could point to the sterile textbook term and get away with out it being offensive because it had an intellectual use to describe a person, concepts, or object.

Now, it only has an intellectual use in describing concepts and objects like ritardando in music is to retard the tempo or describe objects/things like saying that chemical is a flame retardant, which extinguishes or slows the spread of fire.

Annies Nipples1 votes

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The fact that it was taken out of the medical terms makes it more offensive. It used to be in the medical terminology list but it fell out of favor due to the use of it. If it was still the medically proper term, then it would be less offensive, but you go out of your way to point out that it is no longer used in the medical community.

This means you are knowingly and intentionally calling someone a name that implies they have a mental handicap by an improper word... which could be viewed as intentionally calling someone a derogatory term for someone who has a developmental disability.

When it was in the medical lexicon, you could point to the sterile textbook term and get away with out it being offensive because it had an intellectual use.

But when it had an intellectual use... it meant something lmfao. It's gone back to it's meaning before it was a medical term, it's just that Riot and apparently 99% of it's community are ignorant and can't understand that words and meaning can change.

YerroFever1 votes

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But when it had an intellectual use... it meant something lmfao. It's gone back to it's meaning before it was a medical term, it's just that Riot and apparently 99% of it's community are ignorant and can't understand that words and meaning can change.

No, it hasn't gone back to what it was before because the current usage of the word retarded is derogatory. You don't use retard to describe a person in a positive or neutral way. It's only meant as a derogatory throw back to mentally retarded.

Just because YOU want it to not be considered derogatory, does not make it so.

ModPeriscope2 votes

It used to be in the medical terminology list but it fell out of favor due to the use of it.

That is a pretty important point. Why'd they stop using retard? Because the majority of people were using it as an insult.

If anything, the OP has supplied the result of the word's increasing use as an insult: decreased usage, starting in the medical profession.

Annies Nipples1 votes

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That is a pretty important point. Why'd they stop using retard? Because the majority of people were using it as an insult.

If anything, the OP has supplied the result of the word's increasing use as an insult: decreased usage, starting in the medical profession.

Goddamn you must really be held back. the definition changed. It doesn't matter why and it doesn't matter what it's used for. It doesn't mean anything offensive.

ModPeriscope2 votes

Of course it doesn't matter why, because the reason why hurts your argument.

ModUlanopo7 votes

You keep trying to convince people the word isn't an insult, all the while ignoring the fact that it isn't an insult TO YOU, which changes nothing at all about how other people use, perceive or feel about the word.

Annies Nipples1 votes

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You keep trying to convince people the word isn't an insult, all the while ignoring the fact that it isn't an insult TO YOU, which changes nothing at all about how other people use, perceive or feel about the word.

And you keep failing to see that... it doesn't matter what people think. If someone said I was a "saggy cardboard box" and I found that really offensive should they get banned? No. Because calling someone that isn't offensive. It factually is not an offensive term (or phrase in this case). That doesn't mean that you can't get offended by it, but it does mean that the term isn't offensive.

Retard is the literal same exact way. Retard is not an offensive term anymore. You can still get offended by the use of it, but that doesn't change the fact that it doesn't mean anything offensive anymore.

Xidphel1 votes

What does the majority of the playerbase have to say about that word? Will they think you're right or wrong? Their answer will determine if that word is toxic in this game. Not you.

Annies Nipples1 votes

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What does the majority of the playerbase have to say about that word? Will they think you're right or wrong? Their answer will determine if that word is toxic in this game. Not you.

No, it doesn't matter what the player base thinks. The word is FACTUALLY non-offensive. That doesn't mean that no one can be offended by it, but it does mean that the word itself is free from offensive implications now, as opposed to 5+ years ago.

ModPeriscope6 votes

"Retard" does mean delay, hold back, slow, etc. but it has been used more frequently to refer to mentally/intellectually disabled persons, as well as an insult to a person's intelligence.

You're lumping yourself with others who try to redefine a homophobic slur to mean "a bundle of sticks," when it's clearly not intended to be that.

Annies Nipples2 votes

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"Retard" does mean delay, hold back, slow, etc. but it has been used more frequently to refer to mentally/intellectually disabled persons, as well as an insult to a person's intelligence.

You're lumping yourself with others who try to redefine a homophobic slur to mean "a bundle of sticks," when it's clearly not intended to be that.

No Periscope. You are wrong. I am not at all trying to pull that "bundle of sticks" garbage. The word "retard" had a medical registration change... so the word actually changed from meaning "mentally retarded" to something else. People who are what we use to call "mentally retarded" are now called "intellectually disabled." There was a factual change in the words being switch. That's why the bundle of sticks argument doesn't work at all here.

ModPeriscope4 votes

But you are picking and choosing what definition you want to apply, rather than what's generally accepted. Among a group of strangers in a game, we're not gonna buy that you mean to slow down...because you could have just said slow down.

Just because the first thing that pops into google supports your definition of the word, doesn't mean the word was never used in a hateful sense, or that it isn't currently used as an insult.

Annies Nipples1 votes

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But you are picking and choosing what definition you want to apply, rather than what's generally accepted. Among a group of strangers in a game, we're not gonna buy that you mean to slow down...because you could have just said slow down.

Just because the first thing that pops into google supports your definition of the word, doesn't mean the word was never used in a hateful sense, or that it isn't currently used as an insult.

That's not just the first thing that pops into google though... like scroll down why don't yah. It's literally ever post on google. The word retarded doesn't mean what it use to, so Riot shouldn't treat it like it does.

ModPeriscope1 votes

I'm not feeling that we're using the same search engine. Get off Duck Duck Go. It's not the "best way to google things." (That title belongs to Bing, duh).

Meriam Webster, Dictionary.com, and Wikipedia all list pejorative definitions.

HalcyonDweller4 votes

It comes down to colloquialisms. Colloquially calling someone retarded is still meant with a very negative connotation. It's not the words that are punishable, it is their connotation.

Calling somebody retarded in an insulting manner is just that - an insult. You can try to redefine it all you want but that is completely irrelevant. In the gaming community the word has it's own colloquial definition, and nothing you say will change that.

Tell your friend they shouldn't use it as an insult. Or better yet they shouldn't insult people in general.

Scuffleboard3 votes

Dude, I don't know where you got the idea that that's not an insult anymore, but a wide portion of the League community treats it as one, so...

Annies Nipples1 votes

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Dude, I don't know where you got the idea that that's not an insult anymore, but a wide portion of the League community treats it as one, so...

I got the idea that that's not an insult anymore from the fact that the word has a completely different meaning now. The word itself is in literally no way offensive anymore. People just presume it's still offensive so they treat it like it is.

If everyone started called each other Buffalo's would that be offensive? No. Because that stands for nothing offensive. Neither does the word retarded anymore.

Scuffleboard3 votes

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I got the idea that that's not an insult anymore from the fact that the word has a completely different meaning now. The word itself is in literally no way offensive anymore. People just presume it's still offensive so they treat it like it is.

If everyone started called each other Buffalo's would that be offensive? No. Because that stands for nothing offensive. Neither does the word retarded anymore.

If people consider it offensive, then it is offensive. That's the whole reason anything is offensive- because people believe it is.

Annies Nipples1 votes

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If people consider it offensive, then it is offensive. That's the whole reason anything is offensive- because people believe it is.

Yes but that it 100% subjective. To me someone calling me an onion could be the worst possible thing imaginable. But then when you look at what the word onion means, it has no offensive implications. The word "retarded" has no offensive implications in its meaning anymore. People just don't know that, so they treat it as if it still means what it did 5+ years ago.

Scuffleboard3 votes

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Yes but that it 100% subjective. To me someone calling me an onion could be the worst possible thing imaginable. But then when you look at what the word onion means, it has no offensive implications. The word "retarded" has no offensive implications in its meaning anymore. People just don't know that, so they treat it as if it still means what it did 5+ years ago.

When a huge population of people consider it offensive- it is. And even if it's not a medical term anymore, it still has a history.

Also, what Jo0o said.

Annies Nipples1 votes

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When a huge population of people consider it offensive- it is. And even if it's not a medical term anymore, it still has a history.

Also, what Jo0o said.

No, that's not how things work though. Especially not in terms of legality. If you mirror this argument with any court case of similar condition, I win it every time. This only mean what they literally mean. That's all the government cares about. If someone says something that offends you and what they said is not actually an offensive term, you will have literally 0 penalties.

AeroWaffle1 votes

This is Riot's game.

You have zero legal ground here on what is or is not acceptable behavior for Riot's game.

Naramiel3 votes

I realize you're being intentionally obtuse, but I'll bite.

In terms of Riot reports, hate speech is not hate speech because it's insulting to the player, but because it's insulting to a whole category of humanity. If I were to call you "dumb" in-game, I might get punished, but if that's all I said I probably wouldn't. Whereas if I used a slur, I probably would get punished. In either case, I am attempting to insult you, but in one I'm also using a term that is derogatory to a whole section of the population.

THAT is the reason "retarded" is hate speech - because its purpose colloquially (and when your friend used it) is as a slur against people who have a certain category of mental problems.

Me Is Gaggy2 votes

Words develop different meanings over time. A good example is gay. Although it's not an offensive word, it used to mean happy or joyful. Retard, as you said, used to be a medical term, but now it's used to be harsh. Also, the way that a word is used and the way you say it will change the way people take it. If you and I were talking, not writing, and I sarcastically called you retarded you would know that I was joking and you would more than likely giggle. But, with the only way to communicate in this game being text, there is no way someone can understand how you were using the word and what type of tone you were using.

With the level of toxicity in this game being very high most of the time, people will take the word that you say to be insulting. Your best bet is to not call anyone retarded.

Annies Nipples1 votes

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Words develop different meanings over time. A good example is gay. Although it's not an offensive word, it used to mean happy or joyful. Retard, as you said, used to be a medical term, but now it's used to be harsh. Also, the way that a word is used and the way you say it will change the way people take it. If you and I were talking, not writing, and I sarcastically called you retarded you would know that I was joking and you would more than likely giggle. But, with the only way to communicate in this game being text, there is no way someone can understand how you were using the word and what type of tone you were using.

With the level of toxicity in this game being very high most of the time, people will take the word that you say to be insulting. Your best bet is to not call anyone retarded.

Yeah I understand that, but that doesn't the fact that at the end of the day calling someone retarded isn't actually offensive. They might get offended by it, but in literally terms it is not offensive.

OnlyYouCanHearMe2 votes

Uhm... if they get offended by it, that means by definition that it is, in fact, OFFENSIVE.

Annies Nipples1 votes

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Uhm... if they get offended by it, that means by definition that it is, in fact, OFFENSIVE.

Lol, if you think that's how it works i feel bad for you. If what you said were true then literally everything on earth would be offensive, thus making nothing offensive. People can be offended by something that is not offensive. That's whats going on here. The word "retard" has 0 offensive implications anymore. So the word is not offensive. That doesn't mean no one can be offended by it, but it does mean that if we are speaking literally, it's not an offensive term.

OnlyYouCanHearMe2 votes

Then by all means, walk up to every person you see with an intellectual ability, take their hands and tell them how happy they should be that they don't have to be offended by being called a retard anymore. Better yet, go to a playground, find a child with an obvious handicap, go up to their parents, look them in the eyes and call that child a retard. And then try telling them all this bullshit about how they shouldn't be upset because it's not an offensive word anymore, and see if that keeps them from being upset. See if that keeps all those poor kids who are in special education classes from crying when they get bullied by the other kids at school. I'm sure when they go home, their moms and dads will just tell them "don't worry honey, it's not an offensive word."

Words are not like electricity. There is no On/Off switch for offensive meanings. If the President made a law tomorrow that changed the definition of the N-word, it would still be an offensive word. Just like retard is still an offensive word. You're just too ignorant and insensitive to understand that.

Ahri Baka2 votes

Sorry but no , if you use that word , then you also used other insulting words, in genrall it's an insult , and not all people can accept " including me " I literally report everyone who uses it.

Annies Nipples1 votes

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Sorry but no , if you use that word , then you also used other insulting words, in genrall it's an insult , and not all people can accept " including me " I literally report everyone who uses it.

It's not fair to say that, as you can't verify that. No one can except Riot, and they never would.

And the word has literally 0 offensive implications anymore, there is no reason to report for it. It's no longer an offensive term.

AeroWaffle1 votes

And the word has literally 0 offensive implications anymore

According to whom?

The fact that there are people still calling others retarded as an insult in just about any online game pretty much disproves your statement.

OnlyYouCanHearMe2 votes

I'm just going to grab my post from the last "why is the word retard considered hate speech?" whining thread. whining thread and throw a few tweaks in.

From Food For Thought, Sites at Penn State:

Like many other words in the English language, the meaning of the term retarded has morphed quite a bit over time. The r-word falls into a category with other words such as imbecile and idiot– words at one point used to describe those with an intellectual disability. In the late 1960s through the 1980s, the term “mentally retarded” began to replace the then accepted term of “mentally deficient”. From that point on, those with intellectual disabilities began to be categorized based on their degree of mental retardation. The Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders (DSM), 4th Edition, published in 1994, uses the clinical label “mental retardation” for those with intellectual disabilities...

Standing alone, the fact that the term “mentally retarded” used in a clinical setting carries no extraneous repercussions or negative implications. However, as the term “mentally retarded” became accepted to describe those with an intellectual disability in a clinical and medical setting, the term “retarded” was also introduced into the English language as a slang word and a morph of the medical term. The prefix of “mental” was dropped, and the r-word began to be used as a synonym for words such as “slow”, “moronic”, “idiotic”, “stupid”, “messed up” and “wrong”. As usage of the word grew in popularity among common language in America, the r-word evolved to hold seriously negative connotations. One does not simply use the r-word in a casual setting to describe something with a positive spin. Rather, the term has come to be an insult.

From Disability Scoop, Rosa's Law October, 2010:

President Barack Obama signed legislation Tuesday requiring the federal government to replace the term “mental retardation” with “intellectual disability” in many areas of government.

The measure known as Rosa’s Law was approved unanimously by Congress before receiving the go-ahead from the president with little fanfare this week.

Under the law, “mental retardation” and “mentally retarded” will be stripped from federal health, education and labor policy. “Intellectual disability” and “individual with an intellectual disability” will be inserted in their place.

The word retard, with reference to mental disability, began harmlessly enough as a clinical term, but it didn't stay that way. It very quickly became an insult to imply mental deficiency in people who did not have a clinical condition. It is considered so offensive by those people who possess mental disabilities and their families, that federal legislation was enacted to remove the word. The word "retard" literally does not exist any longer in any federal policy. That should tell you that it's a seriously offensive word if the House of Representatives, the Senate and the President of the United States ALL unanimously approved the law to strike its use.

And while the term retard is no longer an accepted MEDICAL diagnosis, the definition of the word does still include that of a mentally handicapped person in all major dictionaries. Simply because it was removed as a medical diagnosis does not obliterate the meaning of the word, nor does it change the offensive meaning that it holds for the people that it is used against.

So, I have to ask you. When someone calls someone else a retard in a match... are they making a clinical diagnosis of intellectual disability? Or are they using it as a synonym for slow, moronic, idiotic or stupid? Because that's the two options. And unless they are asking a lot of other questions in that chat log to back up that clinical diagnosis, it's pretty safe to say that they are meaning it as the latter. Which is 100% intended to be offensive, and is all the evidence that Riot needs. The word is the evidence. Especially when they follow it up with things like "downie" or "fucking retard." There's no question in these cases that it's offensive. There's no excuse that can be provided for why it was okay for them to use the slur. It's never okay. These words are hateful, harmful, and should never be used so irreverently by immature brats online because they get pissed off at another player.

It's sad that players would rather complain about how the rules are unfair, rather than simply own up to the fact that they did or said something wrong, and accept the consequences. And I know that you personally didn't, I'm not referring to you specifically with that, just the barrage of players who come here posting angry threads about how they were "unfairly banned" that are filled with hate speech. Sometimes I just want to tell them to suck it up and be a man. We all say things from time to time and get called out on it. Yeah, it's embarrassing. It's called being a teenager. But it's better to own up to it and focus our energies on not repeating the mistakes, rather than whining about how we got caught in the first place.


formerly VentressRedeemed

Annies Nipples1 votes

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I'm just going to grab my post from the last "why is the word retard considered hate speech?" whining thread. whining thread and throw a few tweaks in.

From Food For Thought, Sites at Penn State:

From Disability Scoop, Rosa's Law October, 2010:

The word retard, with reference to mental disability, began harmlessly enough as a clinical term, but it didn't stay that way. It very quickly became an insult to imply mental deficiency in people who did not have a clinical condition. It is considered so offensive by those people who possess mental disabilities and their families, that federal legislation was enacted to remove the word. The word "retard" literally does not exist any longer in any federal policy. That should tell you that it's a seriously offensive word if the House of Representatives, the Senate and the President of the United States ALL unanimously approved the law to strike its use.

And while the term retard is no longer an accepted MEDICAL diagnosis, the definition of the word does still include that of a mentally handicapped person in all major dictionaries. Simply because it was removed as a medical diagnosis does not obliterate the meaning of the word, nor does it change the offensive meaning that it holds for the people that it is used against.

So, I have to ask you. When someone calls someone else a retard in a match... are they making a clinical diagnosis of intellectual disability? Or are they using it as a synonym for slow, moronic, idiotic or stupid? Because that's the two options. And unless they are asking a lot of other questions in that chat log to back up that clinical diagnosis, it's pretty safe to say that they are meaning it as the latter. Which is 100% intended to be offensive, and is all the evidence that Riot needs. The word is the evidence. Especially when they follow it up with things like "downie" or "fucking retard." There's no question in these cases that it's offensive. There's no excuse that can be provided for why it was okay for them to use the slur. It's never okay. These words are hateful, harmful, and should never be used so irreverently by immature brats online because they get pissed off at another player.

It's sad that players would rather complain about how the rules are unfair, rather than simply own up to the fact that they did or said something wrong, and accept the consequences. And I know that you personally didn't, I'm not referring to you specifically with that, just the barrage of players who come here posting angry threads about how they were "unfairly banned" that are filled with hate speech. Sometimes I just want to tell them to suck it up and be a man. We all say things from time to time and get called out on it. Yeah, it's embarrassing. It's called being a teenager. But it's better to own up to it and focus our energies on not repeating the mistakes, rather than whining about how we got caught in the first place.


formerly VentressRedeemed

And I have a question for you, is being called dumb or an idiot bannable? Or any of the other words that retard stands for? ...No. You can't. Riot will never ban you for calling someone dumb. Retard doesn't even mean that someone is super-mega-hyper-extra dumb, it just means dumb. Riot is a very inconsistent company when it comes to things like this, and on the issue of the word retard they are very wrong.

Also, this post wasn't a whining thread. It was addressing an issue. Riot is banning people for saying something that, factually speaking, carries no offensive implications anymore. It doesn't matter if the masses say it does, when you look at what it means now, it's not what it meant 5 years ago.

OnlyYouCanHearMe2 votes

Actually, yes, depending on the behavioral history of the account in question, those things are bannable. If a player is on the 14 day suspension tier, and they continue to be toxic, and get flagged for going off on someone with that, then yes, they can be banned for them. Because it IS toxic, it IS verbal abuse, and it IS against the ToS.

You don't get it. The word means the same thing. The definition of the word did not change. The only thing that changed was whether it could be used as a valid medical diagnosis after the publication of the DSM V in 2013. Medical diagnoses are constantly being updated, but that does not change the denotation of the actual word retard. It doesn't even change the connotation of the word. It simply means that you cannot use the word in a patient's medical chart, or when submitting a HCFA for reimbursement of a medical insurance claim for treatment. You have to use a valid diagnosis code, which will no longer contain any reference to mental retardation. But that does not change anything about the definition of the word, or how it is used outside of a clinical setting. It only affects how it is used within the confines of mental health treatment.

But since you are so adamant that it has no offensive implication, I'll play along. I'll be willing to consider what you have to say if you can find even a single piece of peer-reviewed scholarly evidence that the word retard is not offensive. No wikipedia, no random obscure webpages. Factual, peer-reviewed, scholarly publications. Quite frankly, I don't think you can find one, because I don't think it exists.

Lyndris1 votes

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And I have a question for you, is being called dumb or an idiot bannable? Or any of the other words that retard stands for?

Hmm, so you are admitting it means something insulting/derogatory and used to have a heavier implication, ans still arguing against it? Also, yes, dumb/stupid/idiot are used the same way, a toxic or harassing manner, which over time can and will get you banned. The point you are missing is words can, and do, have more meanings and uses than the dictionary(ies) state, as language is an art, not a science.

Factually only matters to the grammar of your speech not the words used. Considering what it used to mean and how it is/was used, a literal change in the medical community to avoid the use of this offensive word means less than the implications when a word is used. The implications/intent are more important than the actual meaning of a word. You also are arguing that it's history does not matter, which is wrong as it explains why many words are considered offensive at face value.

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A stream of negative behavior is bannable EVENTUALLY. If you don't go the extreme toxicity route, you're going for simple chat ban. Calling someone dumb or idiot one game doesn't get you there. Constantly doing so across multiple game net you your 10-game chat restriction. Continuing to do so nets you 25 games. THEN you get your 14-day ban. After that, you get perma'd. Same goes for "retard" as far as I'm concerned.

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