permabanned by bot

MorphiumCZ·12/21/2018, 6:45:54 PM·1 votes·2,746 views

Riot, can you please review my permaban by a bot? I haven't been BMing for over a month and after two games of rough games with trolls where I just talked back without even ridiculously offending the player I got penalized? I don't BM anymore and this was only exception, hereby I ask you to review this case as I not only spent time but also a lot of money on this account. The permaban was completely over the top done by a bot, this is unfair.

15 Comments

RallerenP12/21/2018, 6:49:22 PM6 votes

Well, if you've recently had a 14 day ban, any amount of toxicity can get you permanently banned.

It is also stated ON the 14 day ban reform card that the next punishment will be a permaban.

When someone is annoying you intentionally, you mute and report them after the game. Of course this doesn't help against players who are intentionally feeding, but it does prevent escalating any situation.


If you want more help from the community, you'll have to post your chatlogs.

If you want Riot specifically to take a look, you'll have to submit a ticket to support. This is just a discussion forum, where everyone can see and comment on your posts.

4G PnutCollida12/21/2018, 7:20:11 PM1 votes

Submit chat logs that you were banned for. It’ll be easier for us to see what you did wrong

Cheers!

MorphiumCZ12/21/2018, 7:23:00 PM1 votes

Game 1 In-Game MorphiumCZ: if u want MorphiumCZ: literally anyone can play akali MorphiumCZ: need help top MorphiumCZ: ur bm is as bad as urself MorphiumCZ: cant even type properly MorphiumCZ: English MorphiumCZ: do u speak it? MorphiumCZ: whatever MorphiumCZ: jungler MorphiumCZ: 0/2 MorphiumCZ: why are u even talking MorphiumCZ: tard MorphiumCZ: ur the virgin here MorphiumCZ: first time zed MorphiumCZ: yikes MorphiumCZ: at least i can afford it MorphiumCZ: im married MorphiumCZ: u kiddo MorphiumCZ: im not u MorphiumCZ: mad garbage MorphiumCZ: with all those ganks MorphiumCZ: still 1/2 MorphiumCZ: acomplex? MorphiumCZ: just making words up? MorphiumCZ: xD MorphiumCZ: cant win 2v1? MorphiumCZ: what? MorphiumCZ: are u using google translate? MorphiumCZ: my ult? MorphiumCZ: dunno man, maybe buffed? MorphiumCZ: i wanna farm MorphiumCZ: u should win this MorphiumCZ: with all those ganks MorphiumCZ: offended* MorphiumCZ: and the word ur looking foor is triggered MorphiumCZ: i wanna farm MorphiumCZ: i didnt get help MorphiumCZ: so MorphiumCZ: fu MorphiumCZ: 1/4 MorphiumCZ: spam more MorphiumCZ: braindead MorphiumCZ: this zed MorphiumCZ: 1/5 MorphiumCZ: but ur good at talking shiet MorphiumCZ: at least that MorphiumCZ: mad garbage is mad MorphiumCZ: muted now MorphiumCZ: garbage MorphiumCZ: thats all u can say? MorphiumCZ: took u a while MorphiumCZ: xD MorphiumCZ: we arent losing cuz of vision MorphiumCZ: report him, hes whining whole game MorphiumCZ: how am i trolling? Post-Game MorphiumCZ: zed u ruined this game with ur whining MorphiumCZ: kid MorphiumCZ: what? MorphiumCZ: he cant even type MorphiumCZ: sad MorphiumCZ: evelynn probably premade Game 2 In-Game MorphiumCZ: oh u dont have heal... MorphiumCZ: can i stop playing properly? MorphiumCZ: can u stop playing poorly? MorphiumCZ: why u pick ashe with thresh? MorphiumCZ: oh boy MorphiumCZ: hope at least u will carry MorphiumCZ: since we have no adc MorphiumCZ: not funny MorphiumCZ: sad MorphiumCZ: yes MorphiumCZ: bad champ MorphiumCZ: yep MorphiumCZ: we have lategame ashe MorphiumCZ: wait MorphiumCZ: i will fight 2v1 MorphiumCZ: ye MorphiumCZ: all games with ashe are unlucky MorphiumCZ: why? MorphiumCZ: i know im right MorphiumCZ: who wouldnt flame u MorphiumCZ: i picked thresh MorphiumCZ: before u MorphiumCZ: u still decided to pick this useless champ MorphiumCZ: play her MorphiumCZ: doesnt make sence MorphiumCZ: like u picking ashe MorphiumCZ: dude shut up MorphiumCZ: go duo with this ashe MorphiumCZ: i prepicked thresh MorphiumCZ: U adapt MorphiumCZ: not me MorphiumCZ: go duo with ashe MorphiumCZ: pls Post-Game MorphiumCZ: thats why no one plays ashe MorphiumCZ: in low elo MorphiumCZ: thanks for telling me MorphiumCZ: like it will chane a thing MorphiumCZ: do you want a nabkin? MorphiumCZ: napkin* MorphiumCZ: aseh MorphiumCZ: u cant even lasthit MorphiumCZ: its really you MorphiumCZ: not me

YerroFever12/21/2018, 7:32:32 PM1 votes

Just an FYI, the forums is not the proper place to ask for an appeal of your punishment, the forum can only help you understand why you got punished by reviewing your reform card with you. As for 14 day bans, Tantram has said that on average, a player will get out of bad standing in 3 months. This means that you're on thin ice during the whole time. If you had slightly negative chat that wasn't punished prior to this, it'll extend the time of you being on thin ice. So depending on your chat, you could be on thin ice for less than 3 months or longer than 3 months. You were given a warning on your 14 day temp ban that your next punishment will be a permanent ban. Also, permabans are not done by bots. To my knowledge, based on what reds have said, a person reviewed your file and agreed with the IFS and permanently banned you.

As for your request for an appeal, if you want an appeal, you have to go to the support section and open a support ticket. Those of us on NA go to support.riotgames.com but since you're on EUW, I don't know if it's the same. Best way is to hover over the drop down menus and go to the support link.

ı Sona ı12/21/2018, 8:02:51 PM1 votes

There is a TON of flaming and BM'ing in these logs. I'm sorry you were banned, but if you had a 14 day ban before, these are well enough to have lead to a permanent ban.

You have to be nice to your teammates.

MasterYi: This will be a harsh lesson.

Illaoi: Learn well, or you will be tested again

[sona-playing]

ModPrandine12/23/2018, 7:42:09 AM

You insult and name-call people a lot in your games. From bringing up scores as a jumping off point to harass others to calling people things like "braindead" and "garbage" among other things, your behavior was very poor and very much worthy of a punishment. Yes the IFS applied a punishment to you (after reviewing these games and others not included in the Reform Card) but it was only because you displayed behavior that other people in those games with you thought was report worthy. Even if other people started it or were behaving worse that doesn't automatically give your own poor behavior a free pass.

You can cry foul all you want and make all the excuses you want but the bottom line is this punishment has no chance of being overturned as the behavior shown in these two games (and possibly others) and in this thread is not indicative of someone trying to reform their behavior (quite the opposite in fact). If you still don't believe me then answer me this: would you want to be in a game with someone behaving like this?

P.S. Riot didn't steal your money since you willingly spent it on optional content that they then provided to you. Not only that but it states in the TOS that you not only own your own or things attached to it (you merely rent them) but that Riot also reserves the right to revoke access to it at any given time. To quote Kei143:

When Riot permabans someone, their philosophy is "the chances of this guy reforming isn't a whole lot, we'd rather not have him in the game". Thus in their eyes, they have already written off the toxic player as a paying client.

From a business standpoint, do they want to remove the toxic guy who has spent $500 but is causing a negative environment for 4-9 other players in every game? Those non-toxics are also spending $500 and probably will spend more, promote the game more when they are enjoying the game AND they won't cause a negative environment.

I personally think it is a fine argument to protect the ones that are paying money and aren't toxic rather than protecting the ones that may pay the same amount but are toxic.

P.S.S. Freedom of speech is not a valid excuse here as it doesn't apply to privately owned businesses such as Riot Games. From Ulanopo's Knowledge Base:

“Freedom of Speech!!!!!”

Doesn’t apply. No really. If we’re talking about American law, the First Amendment only applies to the government making laws that prohibit speech and, even then, freedom of speech isn’t absolute. For example, you can’t incite a riot, plan to kill the president or yell fire in a crowded theater.

Also, there’s nothing in the First Amendment that protects you from the consequences of your speech. People are fired all the time for making derogatory comments about their employer. My workplace, for example, has a social media policy that says that I can be terminated for badmouthing the company. They don’t ask for passwords and access as some companies have been known to do, but it wouldn’t be all that difficult to find me on the internet, knowing my real name, phone number and address.