Why I've stopped playing LOL: A story of getting yelled at repeatedly.

Neru the Hollow··17 votes·4,607 views

First off, I really like this game. I've been playing intermittently for years, but I rarely play for more than a couple of hours and rarely for more than a day or two a week. I enjoy it and I am a fairly competent player with a few characters, but I have no desire to go pro and I recognize that my skill level being what it is, I should steer clear of ranked games. Unfortunately, this hasn't stopped me from experiencing the rage of strangers asking me to uninstall. I've experienced it often. Even when we win. Even when we're playing a great game. Sometimes, even before the game begins. Once I wanted to play Twisted Fate.
He seemed cool and kinda reminded me of Gambit who is awesome so I figured, hey, I'll go and try him out. I looked up his skills, googled a workable build, I joined a game, and picked twisted fate. Then everyone lost their minds! See, they had decided that they needed me to jungle. Something I'd never done before and honestly, something that I'm not sure I could even do well, considering that I have not even reached level 30. "OMG!!!! GG! GG EVERYONE! OMG JG TW!! F@#ing NOOOOB!"

Sweet.

I don't remember if we won or lost, but I do remember I stopped playing for a while. This was yet another time in which experienced players unloaded on me for not knowing enough about team comp, or not seeing the lantern they dropped, or not knowing that my character had some combo with another player, or simply because they wanted me to take a different lane. I never pick lanes. I just end up where no one wants to go. I didn't quit out of frustration with the game's difficulties. I fair well (if not amazingly) in games overall. I quit because it's no fun to be yelled at for an hour by some random internet person.

But my brothers love the game. They play ranked and have those nice fancy borders around their characters on the load screen. And every so often, they sell me on the idea that the community has much improved since the last time I played. So I dust off my League and I go back to the Rift. I decided to only play solo against bots, in an attempt to avoid getting in people's way while I find my bearings again. I was doing pretty well playing intermediate so I talked to my brother and decided to play coop vs ai. It went well and so I started playing coop without him. I haven't lost a game, but I'm quitting anyway. Here's why:

Last night, I was playing Aatrox. He was free to play champion and I've always wanted to try him so I once again, joined a coop vs ai game and picked him. I am super rusty. My mechanics, my timing, it's all terrible. And there have been many changes. New characters, new items, I'm pretty sure the jungle is different and Aatrox is different.

The game starts and two people had called jungle and were debating how that was going to work. I went bot and the others took their places, but nobody went mid. And that is how it started.

"OMG! Who's mid!" Who's mid?"

"Aatrox, go mid."

"Alright," and I go mid.

Same guy starts pinging me to help him jungle. He's got a second person right next to him but insists that it needs to be me. The game was beginning so I just started farming gold in the mid lane."

"OMG!" "Noobs!" "This whole team is noobs!"

"Jesus dude!. Chill. We're playing bots!" I said.

Of course we are noobs. We're in training mode. This is where us noobs go to stop being noobs. It's literally the only place where I can play that still earns me points and gets out of the way of people looking to go pro.

We won. I got 10 assists and 3 kills (maybe it was two? I forget). Not great, but I was a net positive. When we won, it didn't feel like a win. It felt like a douchebag had been harassing me for an hour.
I took to the forums to see if my experience was out of the norm and of course, I found that it wasn't. But I noticed some interesting things about the conversation.

  1. There is a constant argument that most of the problems result from well intentioned people trying to help and having butt hurt noobs slap their hand away and throw a tantrum.

I've definitely seen this. It is a real thing. But I don't think it tells the whole story. Most of the people that have been abusive in game, at least in my experience, have been people who were doing poorly in the game and passed blame on the closest other player. Put in another way: I've never had a problem with great players who I've always found rather helpful. The people doing the yelling tend to be intermediate players having a bad game or terrible players blaming others for their shortcomings.

I am sure most players have had a conversation that goes something like this:

"YOU JUST WATCHED ME DIE!!! WHY DIDN'T YOU DIVE TOO?!!! WHY DIDN'T YOU R?!!!"

"Ummm... because it was 2v5 and I'm at quarter health, three levels behind, not yet level 6 and the rest of my spells are on cool down? I don't think you should've gone in."

  1. There is great debate as to whether Riot is doing enough to create a good environment for players. Some think that they are and that a combination of the competitive nature of the game, the age differences of the players, and anonymity make it pretty much impossible to fix this problem. Others feel like a more aggressive hand would yield results. Strangely, a lot of people asking for a more aggressive hand were actually asking bad players to be punished for being bad.

I understand. If someone is a terrible player, they might be trolling deliberately. Punishing trolls sound reasonable. Of course, they might also be children or, for a myriad of legitimate reasons (mental or physical disabilities for instance), just bad players that just like playing anyway. Therein lies the problem with punishing people for playing poorly. Even AFK has legitimate reasons behind it. (Faulty gear, for instance) I don't think punishing players for being bad is a sensible strategy for making the community less toxic. If a player is consistently trolling in a ranked games, that's one thing. If a player is just bad at the game but playing unranked or coop vs ai, then they're just bad at the game. It is, after all, a game.

I do, however, think Riot could be doing more to help alleviate the situation. But I don't like complaining without trying to help find a solution, so here's a few ideas:

  1. A kiddy pool with a strict no grownups policy. (Low-level Unranked?) There needs to be an entry level to this game. If my brothers hadn't eased me in, I would've stopped playing much sooner. I think a large part of the toxic environment is due to the fact that there is an unrealistic expectation of commitment that permeates through the community. People who just want to play need a space to play each other. The unranked matches should be that place, but they're equally filled with people who expect you to have solid strategic foundations and know most characters (and who will yell at you if you don't). So, how about a place where people above a certain level or rank can't go in. Or maybe they can, but the chat is disabled for everyone. Or maybe the punishment for hostile behavior is more severely enforced.

Or maybe an Anything goes mode where people pick their characters blindly and there is no chat box. That way, strategy is discouraged. I don't know.

  1. An intermediate, guided training area (like the first tutorial) focused on learning different roles and strategies. (Playing mid, playing bot, jungling, Building adc, building support, warding, positioning, poking, ganks, map awareness, etc...) (Strategy Workshop?)

This would be a way out of the kiddy pool. Maybe you'd have to successfully finish this tutorial before jumping out of the low level unranked games, I don't know. That way, people playing the game more seriously don't have to worry about "noobs" and new and/or more casual players don't have to content with unrealistic expectations. Or maybe it's just highly recommended.

Anyway, theses are my thoughts. Hopefully, they help steer this community in a more positive direction.

57 Comments

HalcyonDweller4 votes

There is goal and then there is reality. This is a deep issue, with a lot of complicated tuning levers. The unfortunate reality is that it is very difficult to control this. The systems in place work fairly well, but they don't catch enough toxic players and so you get stuff like what you've seen.

Here's my take on the issue:


Things Riot can do (or already does): Police toxic players, restrict chat for toxic players, reward players for being positive.

  • Policing players and banning accounts provides temporary relief by getting the player out of the community for a period of time. But this doesn't help very well because they can just create a new account and start being toxic all over again.

  • Restricting chat helps by keeping toxic players from harassing you in the first place, but this isn't a perfect solution because it only catches them after the act, preventing future offenses for a period of time.

  • Rewarding positive behavior helps because you can't be positive and toxic at the same time. This is a strategy from behavioral psychology, where you reinforce a behavior that cannot coexist with the behavior you want to get rid of (for example raging vs encouraging). Riot has done some of this, but they really ought to try to implement it further (possibly with key fragment or chest rewards).


Things players can do: Ignore toxic behavior (also reward positive behavior), mute toxic players, report toxic players.

  • Ignoring toxic players is an incomplete solution, you won't improve their behavior because in games before or after your game that player will get reactions from others and thus get reinforcement in their toxic behavior.

  • If you want to try to make a dent in this you could try rewarding positive behaviors while ignoring the toxic ones, similar to my last bullet point under Things Riot can do. By saying things that make the player feel valued and respected when they do the right thing, or by outlining how their positive (or even neutral actions) have helped progress the game you may help them to see that they can have more fun or feel more valued if they act less toxic. I've tried this and found sporadic success. It all depends on how tilted everyone was to begin with, and on how much of your own emotions you can filter out of the discussion. Be prepared to mute them if it doesn't work, because then it's not worth your time or worth suffering to interact with them further.

  • Muting toxic players will allow you to enjoy the rest of your game without seeing harassment from the offending players. This is the most impactful solution for you, because it provides immediate relief, as well as removing the temptation of responding just to have them respond with more toxicity.

  • Reporting toxic players will help remove them from the system, but not permanently. In some cases, the toxic player is someone who just needs a break from the game, time to themself to think on what they've done and realize that a change is needed. But let's not kid ourselves, in a lot of cases they are deeply ingrained in their toxicity and just start up again when their ban is lifted or when they get onto an alternate/new account.


Where does that leave us?

The system is still imperfect and I doubt that it will fix things quickly. Behaviors and habits are hard to break, and with such a large system of players, games and social interaction it is going to take a while before things are solved. Even if Riot took drastic measures they would face other problems such as backlash, false flag punishments, etc.

The most accessible solution for players like you and I is /mute because if you can't perceive what they say, they can't hurt you. Riot has provided a sufficient system for us to communicate with our teammates by pings instead of interacting in chat. What I've seen a lot of people do is just use voice chat with friends, /mute all in chat, and focus on the game instead of random players in chat.

If you want to try improve another player, don't try to directly address them when they behave poorly. It is practically never worthwhile. Instead try waiting for them to do something good or even just not be toxic for a while, then compliment them for it and point out how it was helpful. Remember that if they respond with more toxicity then it's a lost cause and you should mute them and get on with your game.


Boy would I like for Riot to try this:

  • Reward positive behavior more.

  • Preemptively identify toxic chat before it is entered into the chat box and simply not show the other players what the toxic player said. It could even be entered so that the toxic player thinks it was still said. This would create uncertainty and the perception of being ignored.

  • Implement short-term bans to allow players time to cool off if they are tilted. (Such as a 1-day ban).

  • Auto-correct toxic things in chat such as "ez" into something funny so everyone can laugh about it. (Overwatch did this and it seemed to meet with success).

ThePikol3 votes

Sorry, but I didn't read whole, just some parts, so correct me if I say something wrong. You got flamed and want to stop playing because of it? Why care so much what other say? If LoL gives you joy play it, if not don't, it's a game after all. Use the magic command "/mute all". They don't say anything valuable anyway. Belive me. You can communicate only with pings in LoL. I could somehow understand you would be mad after a losing streak in ranked, but you play vs AI or normals as you are not 30lvl yet. Of course you don't know every champ, mechanics etc. You have to learn that. Don't worry

Neru the Hollow3 votes

I just wanted to play with my brothers without being insulted. I'm not particularly angry, just trying to provide some feedback on user experience. I also didn't lose. Haven't lost a single game. (We are playing dumb bots). I just don't like hostile people and thought I should mention that in the Behaviors forum in the hopes Riot would like to know that I've had a lot of bad experiences with hostile players.

Also, muting people is not really a solution. I'm trying to constructively suggest ways in which things might be improved that don't require isolating yourself.

ThePikol2 votes

Grow a thicker skin then and a pair. Life is ful of angry people, learn to not bother

Neru the Hollow7 votes

That is also not a solution.

Automated Riven1 votes

Your right about it not being a solution. But if you want to play the game the solution is to mute someone who is raging at you and report after the game. I just don't give a damn if I get raged at so I don't even bother muting.

Neru the Hollow3 votes

Yeah, it's about trying to create a better environment in game. I know it's not exactly easy, I know. but I did have some thoughts on the subject.

Ultimately, I play a lot of multiplayer games and when the community is awesome, the game is better. I am trying to raise the issue and give some suggestions in the hopes that Riot might find a way to improve their community's dynamic.

I do report often.

LankPants2 votes

Yeah, it's about trying to create a better environment in game

The environment in the game is far better than it was before, as someone who's been playing League for 6 years now the difference between when I started and now is amazing. If I didn't have the thick skin and ability to ignore or simply fire back a one line at someone raging at me (not always the best response, but eh) before muting them I doubt I'd have even lasted past my first few months. I don't even see the current community as a problem at this point, it's not any worse than other online communities, I have doubts that it's even possible to further improve at this point. You just run into diminishing returns, each new system catches fewer and fewer people and the people who are toxic and not being caught are harder and harder to catch.

Ultimately, I play a lot of multiplayer games and when the community is awesome

I'd be interested in knowing which, because literally every online game I've played has had a shitstorm of a community. I've been raged at in co-operative multiplayer games where I'm not even doing badly before. If there's a chat it will happen. Anonymity brings out the worst in people.

Alistair347 votes

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learn to not bother

People should learn to not harass others how about that?

Micbran1 votes

It's easier to change your own behavior/thoughts than it is to change others lol. That's why it's not a feasible solution. Other solution: /muteall

Anastaecia1 votes

Unfortunately in this world, muting is very much a solution. This is not isolated to a video game. People have been douchebags to each other since the dawn of time. Everyone has to feel superior for some reason instead of working as a whole. Sometimes the best way to avoid bad things is to do just that AVOID them. If that means muting salty fellow players in an online video game, so be it. Most people are the way they are and are not going to change, so if you are going to put yourself in a social situation (with a HUGH pool of random people that are from all backgrounds), you are going to get some bad ones. Just like you don't read bad posts, you don't have to "listen" to bad people.

Neru the Hollow3 votes

Not really. At best, it's a patch. Not if the problem you have is a toxic community. Not every gaming community is this bad. Not every community is this beset by douchebags.

I do believe this can be improved on. I think Riot thinks so too. That's all I'm trying to do.

Leonerdo1 votes

Toxic players isn't just a League problem, it's a problem for every competitive, team-based game that allows communication. And it's not an easy problem to fix, at least not without harming innocent players too. It can be improved on, and Riot has been working for years to improve it (and they're making progress), but it's never going to be entirely fixed. I'm not saying you should just suck it up; I'm just trying to make sure your expectations are realistic.

Dunk Everything1 votes

Also even if you mute the other guy, they can easily indirectly flame you by spamming "?" ping on you when you make a bad play or do something that they don't like

aZ3R0n3 votes

I like your suggestions, and I agree that there needs to be more than what's currently available as far as game modes go.

I personally don't have the patience to play ranked (only 3 matches so far this season), and so Unranked Draft was usually my go to game mode. I got tired of that because of trolls and people simply not caring or wanting to try at all because "it's just norms" and then wasting 20 to 50 minutes of my life, so I moved on to ARAM. It's slightly more fun and relaxing to play a faster paced game mode where you automatically gain gold and experience at an increased rate, and I also enjoy the challenge of adapting a champion's build to overcome random teams.

To get back to your point, I agree wholeheartedly. A mute feature or chat filter is not an excuse for players to flame others and behave poorly. Having a mute feature and report system available does not need we need to "suck it up" or "grow a pair" and just deal with the abuse. You are 100% right that Riot needs to work harder to promote a community that is friendly, helpful, and welcoming. Instead, League of Legends is notorious across the internet for having one of the most toxic player communities among all online multiplayer games.

I strongly agree that having more game modes or restricting certain game modes to having player accounts of only certain levels would help create a friendlier atmosphere to players of different skill levels and intentions (i.e. players who want a seriously competitive unranked match to just something to kill a half hour and have fun). Unfortunately, doing so would make for longer queue times, and these tend to be quite long already for players of certain ranks. It would also limit a player's ability to group with their friends (like if a Diamond 1 wants to play with their level 5 friend who is very new to the game), causing further strain on the Riot developers and also the player community.

I'm not trying to make excuses; I agree with you 100% and Riot DOES need to work harder to promote the player community that you and I seek. I do believe that Riot wants this kind of player community as well, but the problem is getting there. We only see things from our side, which is that we need to log into League of Legends simply expecting to run into trolls, flamers, and outright unpleasant players. However, with constant communication perhaps we can help the devs to reach some kind of middle ground, and that's exactly what these forums are here for.

Anyway, tl;dr I agree and hope that Riot can somehow implement other game modes to promote a friendlier atmosphere for players of all intentions and playstyles.

Neru the Hollow2 votes

You bring up a good point about queue times. It's definitely something that would have to be considered when adding or changing play modes. And thanks for answering thoughtfully. I think it's a worthwhile conversation to have. I've never played ARAM. I'll probably give it a shot. Hopefully, the people at Riot are hard at work looking for ways to help.

In the meantime, I'll leave hoping that we all remember that the community we are talking about is us.

yesnobanana2 votes

WAIT

how are you playing for years and not lvl 30? [slayer-pantheon-popcorn]

Neru the Hollow1 votes

As I said, I play very rarely. Started a long time ago, but it hasn't been continuous.

yesnobanana2 votes

First off,that's not called "playing for years" second off,everyone below 30 thinks they are some king of pro challenger shit. so don't be mad you'll get over it.

Neru the Hollow1 votes

Well, what would you call it? I call it playing on and off for years. Does that sound better? I don't know what that last bit means in relation to what I wrote. Do you mean that everyone around me is going to act like a "king of pro challenger shit" or are you saying that I think I'm a king of pro challenger shit.

I've no aspirations to be anything other than an on and off player run of the mill player. And I do agree there are a lot of "king of pro challenger shit" people out there. That is in fact the point of writing this. Figured I'd let Riot know they've been overrun. I'm not angry. I'm just trying to help make the experience marginally better.

yesnobanana1 votes

when i said "king of pro challenger shit" i didn't mean to insult you. I mean if you play with pre 30 players they will flame.

Neru the Hollow1 votes

Figured as much. All good. I agree too. It's why I wrote this. Because I think we can all push it in the right direction.

LankPants1 votes

Well, what would you call it?

TBH, you're new to the game. Playing on and off for years would be someone who plays many games sporadically for a few weeks/months at a time with month long gaps between. You've really not played enough games to where you can say you've been playing on/off for years since that carries an implication of a high number of games.

The other thing I'd suggest is just to put up with the shit for a few levels until you hit level 30, because the simple fact is the community pre 30 is flooded with people who's account got banned and are trying to rank another, especially between about 15 and 29. Ironically the toxicity at low levels is caused by the banning system that keeps these people out of higher levels. It does improve post 30 though, especially if you can get somewhat decent. People around high silver-low gold tend to be the least angry in my experience and that applies to normals too.

buckeyebob451 votes

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WAIT

how are you playing for years and not lvl 30? [slayer-pantheon-popcorn]

He said he has been playing intermittently and only a few games a week at that. He also mostly plays bots which dishes out much less xp. So it's definitely possible he started two years ago or so.

leaugesbane1 votes

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He said he has been playing intermittently and only a few games a week at that. He also mostly plays bots which dishes out much less xp. So it's definitely possible he started two years ago or so.

same for me i can win every bot game alone but the moment i go normal. gg ass holes everywhere. still waiting on the message for the bard that has had 30 accounts banned in 2 years.

Otherworldz2 votes

Mute everyone

Just enjoy the game. You'll find when you type less and play off instinct and use pings, it will actually help you play better.

Neru the Hollow2 votes

Yeah, I don't usually type at all unless someone talks directly to me. I feel the same way you do about pings. You can play the whole game without words. That said, what I am trying to do is raise a concern about the issue and maybe propose a few ways in which the hostilities can be mitigated. I'd rather find a way to improve the community so I don't have to mute players. Tall order I know, but I figured I'd chip in.

Judging by the replies in this forum though, it seems like most people have settled for the current environment as unavoidable.

2Charmnot2Charm1 votes

what I am trying to do is raise a concern about the issue and maybe propose a few ways in which the hostilities can be mitigated.

  1. Everyone that plays league already knows people can be toxic, however you have to be consistently toxic to get punished because it would be dumb to get banned if you got mad in 1 match out of every 100 matches.

  2. The mute button has been a thing since xbox live days, how you people still fail to use what the developers gave you to shut others up for the rest of the game and report them when it's over is beyond me.

Also riot already did tried to contain toxicity, ever heard of riotlyte? Cause that was a dank era in league.

iIlaoi2 votes

/mute all

EclipseTim1 votes

{quoted}

/mute all

RacoonHunter2 votes

I actually agree with this, especially the part about riot is not doing enough to cull the toxicity, especially in ranked.

Story: I'm actually off today for the first time in 11 days (really good at my job being a delivery driver) so I figure why not do some ranked games..

game one: Jungler intentionally feeds, calls me (cait) a noob and never ganks.. loss game two: Support (thresh) calls me a "fuing n i **" and then proceeds to intentionally feed, grief and cause us to lose. game three: ww jungle decides to intentionally feed the enemy lee/akali mid.. then calls bot lane a "fuking cancerous fa**t"

in every game I reported those players along with the enemy team who throughout the whole game had at least 2 people say ggez fts ners and yet, here I am going into game 4 after a break to try and get back up to my promos into silver 3, and I already have someone on my team telling me I'm a "fuking trash bronzie"

but you know, for how much riot claims they have a 0 policy on hate speech, intentional feeders, and negative players, they sure don't do a god damn thing when people legitimately report toxic behavior in ranked..

don't get me started on how bad normals are these days.. "talyiah you're a piece of ni ***er trash" --Actual thing said to me last night in a game and yet these players are STILL playing this game.

HalcyonDweller1 votes

Your experience sounds terrible, I'm sorry that happened.

If you don't mind me asking, do you play alone or with others?

RacoonHunter1 votes

about 85% of the time I'm solo. most of the people I group with usually play arams, or the rare occasion they are on to play up from ranked..

their experiences tho have been the same. I was playing with a buddy the other night in a ranked game.. got a very toxic teammate AND the enemy team was very toxic.. even calling my buddy a S..T Player cause he was having an off game on his syndra. and it got to him... even after he muted the toxic players, the teammate would not stop pinging, and even after the game while he was reporting people, they were STILL talking shit to him..

it's kinda sad that riot continues to let this happen.. They claim that they have a 0 tolerance policy on this sort of thing, but their system obviously isn't working as intended.

oh, to add to my day's experience. I just losed a game in ranked because our mid said "intentional feed" then proceeds to go 2-14 and be very toxic to the rest of the team..

Starcraft243ver1 votes

/mute all during the firsts seconds of the game and you might enjoy it.

I personally dont care if someone yell at me the whole game, because i just dont bother, i'm even a bit happy since it means there is a high chance i can get him banned at the end of the game.

But for people who can't stand it or are bothered, you can still just /mute annoying people.

Sidetraxx1 votes

Basically this is now what im going to do.

Sick of people who seem to be people who have played for years. (they seem to know every char and what I should do and not do, and where to go etc etc F'ing etc)

They just can't keep their mouths shut.

Most times its when im the only solo player with a group on my team and a 5 man on the other.... I'm there like.....ooooookk here it comes.....another 12 year old gonna spray his mouth again...

Then it happens.....

Yet again......

WTF , ive only been playing LoL for not even a month......wtf do I go against these types of ppl ??? Its stupid...... I get blamed for everything even when I HAVE WON THE GAME for them!! A noob, won the game for them....after they abused me all game..... lol.....

Its really really toxic and mute is now going to be my best friend......

If they want to report me for not saying anything, well I hope riot looks at their account / chat history and my /mute before making any judgements..............

Neru the Hollow2 votes

Yeah. Mute seems to be what everyone recommends, but that's hardly the same as creating a welcoming community. I'm trying to recommend ways to improve the experience without just keeping people from talking to each other.

And you're right. It shouldn't bother me. But it does. I can't have fun when someone is throwing tantrums next to me. And though it might be somewhat unavoidable that some people will be hostile, this is a pervasive part of the community which deserves attention.

I do try to report often, but it feels like a losing battle.

leaugesbane1 votes

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/mute all during the firsts seconds of the game and you might enjoy it.

I personally dont care if someone yell at me the whole game, because i just dont bother, i'm even a bit happy since it means there is a high chance i can get him banned at the end of the game.

But for people who can't stand it or are bothered, you can still just /mute annoying people.

doesnt help anything come end game screen youstill get blasted when you do nothing worng

im restricted according to the tos i deserve it. what you wont see is the that ive had 25 games straight of feeders afks passive aggressive play style purposely ruing the games. this game needs to hurry up and die so that this ridclous player base can see what happens when they try this shit in other games. dota hots wot xbox never seen shit this bad and wot is pretty bad but never this bad

if ia deserve the restriction then you all deserve a perma for not even trying to teach a new player.

Starcraft243ver1 votes

25 games straight of feeders afks passive aggressive play style

I muss be very lucky because It's quite rare i get these guys. And even when i get one, he stops doing this quickly once he sees noone answers him.

leaugesbane1 votes

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I muss be very lucky because It's quite rare i get these guys. And even when i get one, he stops doing this quickly once he sees noone answers him.

ive had them 26 games straight they troll and laugh bout it with out using the chat. you can jsut tell they think there the funniest shit its infuriating. and the best part is the almost always cry about you after they made you tilt tell you upside down and feeding with no hope of stoping due to how under scaled you are.

this last game the adc zed which is meh and a voli that just couldn't stop shoving mid after i died so i kept dying trying to get exp and a kata that was clearly good diving me.

supports and junglers need to jsut listen and stop this kinda shit should be bannable far mroe so then flaming.

agian he was purposely trolling and not helping ever he would purposely walk away after pinging to go in to bait me in as well. i wish this shit was my fault. it isnt.

DonnieDarkin1 votes

There is literally no reason to type to anyone when playing bots. Just do what you want to do.

Leonerdo1 votes

Those are decent suggestions, but Co-op vs. AI is already the "kiddy pool" of League. And there's already plenty of resources for learning the game, aside from the tutorial. There's Practice Tool for learning/practicing mechanics. There are tons of written guides, videos, and streamers on the internet that can teach you about how to lane, how to play a specific champion (including builds), how to ward, jungle pathing, etc. And for anything more advanced, like strategy and tactics, i.e. postitioning, teamfighting, map awareness, ganking, etc - for that stuff it's best to just play the game, or watch someone else and ask why they do things.

Davaken1 votes

I've always found people to be a lot more toxic on the first couple of levels. Insults like "noob" is thrown around in nearly every game (even though most people are noobs, and there is absolutely nothing wrong with that).

I've also found the term "noob champ" used A LOT until a little over level 30. This insult makes absolutely no sense and should never be taken seriously. Every champion in the game has mechanics to be mastered, some skill floors are just lower than others.

I suggest keep playing. I'm not saying people will stop being toxic once you're over level 30, but it will definitely get better. People also tend to forget the funny, awesome and friendly teammates, and only focus on the flamers, feeders, leavers and so on.

I suggest keep trying to play the game (since you mentioned that you like it). I never flame people unless they are completely out of reach and acting like children, where I just tell them to grow up and mute them. Usually, however I try to calm them down and try to make them play their best. I have people on my friends list right now who originally flamed me, the first time I met them.

Whatever you do, good luck! And remember, it's all about having fun.

Epicanian1 votes

every single time i ever see a post like this.

/ m u t e

a l l

or just find some friends to play with

TheOGAfksorry1 votes

I've only been playing for a few years and the cancer is real and will probably always be there in the community. People think they are the best at the game and flame, people know they suck and troll.... Ill play 2-5 games in a day and usually spend more than half the games arguing about situations like why i refuse to go in on a 2v4 in the enemy jungle with no vision up. The other day i had someone that was 1/12 (adc) while i was 1/4 (support) yell at me. I stuck to the adc (vayne) as well as i could but she wanted to be super aggressive while the enemy had heals while i was support Trundle. Regardless of who's fault it was the player refused to change strategy from running head into battle while behind. League isn't a game that you are going to enjoy every round. I think that is what makes the games that go the way they are supposed to that much better.

As for setting up a system, you got to remember that sometimes you are the only solo queue in a premade game and if 4 players are against you at the end of the game for trying to get you banned, a weak system will leave a lot of players out of game because of clans and group efforts to screw people.

They just need to leave their special game modes open that way serious summoner's rift players can have less casual scrubs messing up. If a newb is struggling and is willing to listen to suggestion things usually work out in a game, but some jack asses like to think its URF all the time and can't count past 6 in order to keep a record of CD'd in their heads.

Protoform X1 votes

I haven't been able to play much recently, but if you'd ever like to queue up with at least one person who will 100% not rage at you or anyone else in any game mode, feel free to add me in-game.

Micbran1 votes

/muteall

Krigjer1 votes

I quit (uninstalled) multiple times while leveling and being a fresh 30 because people were so toxic.

I've grown a thick skin since then and straight up have a 'Don't care whatsoever' attitude, but yeah.

Xosra1 votes

Really the solution is simple if you gonna have a game where team is harassing you just /mute all problem solved. There are too many ppl in this world and on this game to police every single one of them for being salty jerk at times. Mute all or just the one bothering you and then report after.

ZT Xperimentor1 votes

That's like applying a bandaid to a disease, it can coverup the symptoms, but won't solve anything.

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