why do most players refuse to listen to anyone?

slightlysketch·Jan 4, 2018·2 votes·603 views

ive been playing for a long time now, season 2. its become really apparent that majority of the "bad" players dont wanna listen to anything anyone on the team has to say. you can be the nicest possible and just be like "hey man i noticed you are having problems laning against (insert random champ) you should do this (insert random advice) and like 2 seconds later they just telling you how you feed and blah blah blah doesnt matter if you do well or not they just start going off

ive noticed its gotten worse with the increase of player base which i know is going to happen from gaining popularity over the years but i swear every game i play in ranked i have either a feeder or someone who generally doesnt know whats going on an it doesnt really matter how much advice you have to give they just instantly get mad cuz you told them how the game works/how they could do better in their lane.

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redniwediSJan 4, 20183 votes

I don't consider myself a bad player, though I definitely don't think I'm good at this game. I occasional have bad games, because I'm tired or I'm rusty after a break or it's freaking cold and my ability to quickly hit the right keys was thrown out the window, and I end up recognizing my mistakes only after the fact. We all have these days.

When I'm like this the last thing I'm interested in is advice from someone I don't know. I know that I'm playing bad, I know why I'm playing bad, but at that time I'm unable to fix the root cause, and some blanket advice won't be enough. What I need at that moment is some reliable shot calling from someone who shows an ability to control the flow of the match, not tips on playing my current champion.

If someone is trying to be nice about it I'll usually apologize and explain why I'm being a lead weight, but I do understand I'm in the minority. There are always people out there who very violently reject advice, and people who think the only way to give advice is to offer it with a hefty dose of condescension. I've found it's best to just let people from either extreme do their thing, and mute them if they become a problem. You can't force a horse to drink and all that, but you can save yourself a headache by only leading the thirsty ones to the river.

Six Inch HealsJan 4, 20181 votes

If you want consideration from teammates, it doesn't need to be predicated with "well if you're nice to me, I'll apologize and try."

This comes off as entitled.

redniwediSJan 4, 20182 votes

Wait, is this a direct reply to me, or are you just adding on? I'll reply as if it's a direct reply.

I'll be trying regardless of any other factors. When I'm playing poorly it's not because I'm not trying, it's because I'm trying and failing for one reason or another. I'm going to try and win and be a useful part of my team no matter how my team reacts to my play, but I'm only going to type and explain the position I'm in, and apologize for it, if my team isn't a bunch of asshats.

Six Inch HealsJan 4, 20181 votes

"but I'm only going to type and explain the position I'm in, and apologize for it, if my team isn't a bunch of asshats."

Therein lies the problem. You shouldn't be here for friends or praise. While I somewhat agree that being rude to players is not fun and not okay, I find the entitlement of ruining 4 other players' experiences in ways they can't easily mitigate (ex. muting) a bit more of an offense than calling someone a dingbat or similar.

Not saying this applies to you per se, but I wonder when most of the playerbase will realize that 95% of toxicity is mitigated by opening your mouth and being honest? "Hey, I'm having a tough game, sorry." or "I have never played this character." in the beginning as to leverage expectations. Anytime I've done any of the above, I've had NO drama. It's so easy!

redniwediSJan 4, 20182 votes

Not saying this applies to you per se, but I wonder when most of the playerbase will realize that 95% of toxicity is mitigated by opening your mouth and being honest?

That would be a wonderful day. I absolutely love it when I run into people in game that are willing to speak their mind without being rude and show other players respect. Too often it just doesn't feel worth the risk of opening up and being honest to people, but sometimes you run into the right person and it all becomes worth while.

The best example I can think of was back in season 3. I was playing a bit of ranked and I got my worst role, ADC. Everyone else was comfortable with their roles, and so no one wanted to trade with me. My jungler was an experienced ADC and he walked me through what I should be doing at each part of the game, and while I didn't come close to carrying I was able to avoid being a dead weight.

He wasn't just telling me what I should be doing, he was helping me get better at playing ADC. I still suck at the role, but what I learned that game has helped me quite a bit over the years in understanding both my ADC and the enemy one. Most people would have just said "do your best" and silently judged until the post game where they would vent, or would straight up vent at me in game, but this guy didn't.

I've been burned way too many times to count, so I'm definitely more reluctant to take the first step these days, but if someone else does I'm more than happy to follow suit.