How can there be a forfeit function if "giving up" is reportable?
Edit: Right and wrong is supposed to be determined by something other than "the will of the majority". The 4/5 saying they want to give up is, from a "right and wrong" perspective, indistinguishable from 1/5 saying they want to give up.
edit 2: "Because rito doth proclaim" is not an argument. Riot is a company of people. People are not infallible.
giving up is something one person decides to do
FF is something the team decides to do
get it?
Because the report category that involves "Giving up" is "Negative Attitude" - and the "Giving up" it's referring to is defeatist attitude/behaviors. Surrendering is not against the rules - whining, complaining, and moaning about how badly you just want the match to end, however, is.
Giving up isn't reportable unless you start to intentionally make the game end faster or use chat to bring your team morale down.
First, lets go ahead and clear something up. Everything and anything is technically reportable. That does not mean that everything and anything is punishable.
When super majority decide to give up then most likely it is not punishable as 4/5 had given up. If you want to be petty and report, then report. It can be punishable if a situation like Kei decided happened.
edit 2: "Because rito doth proclaim" is not an argument. Riot is a company of people. People are not infallible.
Your starting question is "How can there be a forfeit function if "giving up" is reportable?". Giving up is punishable because "rito doth proclaim" so.
It would be just as easy (if not easier) to not punish for it, but Riot has decided that was against the rules. They are within the same rights to allow the forfeit option.
The reasoning behind each decision is certainly different, but it is ultimately Riot's decision. There's no sense in allowing a game to continue if a super-majority of the team has decided there is little hope of victory. But a single person deciding for the rest of the team to place them at a disadvantage is not okay and should be discouraged.
yes yes yes yes and yes. thank you. someone else see it. people crying and surrendering is a perfectly good reason to report someone cause they'd rather give up than to play the game and help their team.
The surrender function is intended to be used in the following way: put up a surrender vote, keep trying to win while the surrender vote is running, and if it doesn't pass, shut the fuck up and keep playing.
It's not intended to be used like this: https://image.ibb.co/g3JmV0/HIV.jpg
"Giving up" refers to someone playing in a way in which they are no longer putting forth effort towards winning the game.
Everyone has the right to initiate a surrender. Just that not all your teammaye agrees. If the vote is not unanimous then you must continue to play your best. Until the game naturally runs its course.
You can alt f4 but I suspect that will eventually get you a fat ban. Not if just when.
Really comes down to the fact that no one really takes what is and is not reportable seriously. For the longest time, unskilled was one of the choices for reporting. I also believe refusing to communicate with the team was an option at the same time players could get chat restricted XD
Ideally, the report option should probably be changed but people understand the spirit of what is reportable and go by that more than the exact semantics.
