My idea on bringing back a more efficient tribunal

XinZhao2WinNhao·10/12/2016, 6:49:41 PM·2 votes·494 views
  1. Stick with no rewards for tribunal judges so that there is no incentive to vote a certain way that you think others are more likely to vote in order to increase accuracy rating and get rewards.
  2. Tribunal judges will be volunteers just like it was before.
  3. Add replays to the tribunal.
  4. Tribunal judges have to cite 3 pieces of evidence from the replay or the chat logs that explains why they punish if they pick punish. If it's a really serious offense, then they only have to cite that one offense. If they pardon, they have to explain how the person was not toxic and why they pardoned. (so no random spam click punish or pardon)
  5. Tribunal judges on the same case that are online at the same time can chat with each other in a tribunal chat box where they could exchange opinions and ideas.
  6. Have a majority report and a dissenting report explain why people who voted one way voted that way, and why people who voted the other way voted the way they did.

16 Comments

elduris10/12/2016, 8:17:26 PM5 votes
  • Add replays to the tribunal.
  1. Tribunal judges have to cite 3 pieces of evidence from the replay or the chat logs that explains why they punish if they pick punish. If it's a really serious offense, then they only have to cite that one offense. If they pardon, they have to explain how the person was not toxic and why they pardoned. (so no random spam click punish or pardon)
  2. Tribunal judges on the same case that are online at the same time can chat with each other in a tribunal chat box where they could exchange opinions and ideas.
  3. Have a majority report and a dissenting report explain why people who voted one way voted that way, and why people who voted the other way voted the way they did.

I get where you're coming from with these points, but don't you think it's a little much? Like, if you're not getting any kind of reward and you're doing this as a volunteer, why even bother taking the time to watch a replay, cite 3 pieces of "evidence", chat with other judges about one case, and then create a report about why you clicked punish? The replay itself could be an hour long, so you're spending multiple hours on one game.

I find the volunteer Arbiter stuff rewarding in different ways. I don't get any kind of special treatment or bonuses for doing this. But I have met a lot of cool people and have learned a lot about myself and the community since I started. That's its own reward in my eyes, so I guess you'd have to find people with a similar mindset to work on this new Tribunal. Though let me tell you, even though I enjoy this, the work:reward ratio for this proposed Tribunal is way off for my taste and I'd avoid it like the plague.

Mimy10/12/2016, 7:02:13 PM3 votes

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hh3KE_37JfY&index=6

Only good thing about tribunal coming back..

Man In Sky10/12/2016, 7:37:43 PM3 votes

Downvoted

ModPrandine10/13/2016, 10:04:53 AM1 votes

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  1. Stick with no rewards for tribunal judges so that there is no incentive to vote a certain way that you think others are more likely to vote in order to increase accuracy rating and get rewards.
  2. Tribunal judges will be volunteers just like it was before.

I have no problems with these.

  1. Add replays to the tribunal.

Eh, I don't think that's necessary considering the majority of cases are for verbal abuse. Now don't get me wrong it would help for some cases, but not for all.

  1. Tribunal judges have to cite 3 pieces of evidence from the replay or the chat logs that explains why they punish if they pick punish. If it's a really serious offense, then they only have to cite that one offense. If they pardon, they have to explain how the person was not toxic and why they pardoned. (so no random spam click punish or pardon)

Um, why? This would just slow down the process even more than it did before. Also, if I'm not mistaken spammers were also punished for spamming punish/pardon in Tribunal cases.

  1. Tribunal judges on the same case that are online at the same time can chat with each other in a tribunal chat box where they could exchange opinions and ideas.

Again, I feel that this would just slow down the process even more than it normally would. While this might help for the more tricky/grey-area cases it's ultimately up to each individual themselves to decide in the end whether a case is truly worth punishing or pardoning.

  1. Have a majority report and a dissenting report explain why people who voted one way voted that way, and why people who voted the other way voted the way they did.

Again, this would just slow the process down even more than it was before. If people have taken their time to thoroughly review the case to the best of their abilities then that should be good enough in my opinion.

ilikemonky10/18/2016, 10:32:14 PM1 votes

Seeing both sides of this argument, wouldn't the best solution be for the bot algorithm to expand its categorization system?

Currently it seems to have a pardon, punish lite, and punish heavy setup based on the evidence as the bot sees it however if you took the system and added an undecided group then only those cases could be sent to tribunal leading to a more streamlined system where the backlog should be much smaller.

KVbqbFsC8e10/19/2016, 9:29:55 PM1 votes

It would be alot better than the automated garbage we've had for the last couple of years which bans people for calling someone "bad" but does nothing about people who feed or troll.