This is why I hate playing with premades

Randomonium·8/29/2017, 5:15:00 AM·2 votes·1,358 views

And no, I didn't say anything toxic the whole game. Pretty much the only thing I said all game was "wp" and "gj" along with pinging out objectives.

And no, this is not just one isolated incident. I've had this happen over a dozen times since the honor system was introduced. In fact, I think I've only received about 3 honors from premades so far (many, many more from solo players.)

And yes, I verified they were a premade via op.gg.

You shouldn't be able to honor people that you queue with. It defeats the whole purpose of the system and just encourages circle jerking.

29 Comments

A Pretty Unicorn8/29/2017, 6:29:30 AM5 votes

I'm not defensive, I think making blanket statements about people isn't very constructive. The fact that you went and looked at my games in an attempt to deflect the attention off of you and your not very positive behavior isn't lost on me and probably not on anyone else either.

I don't honor my friends more frequently than I honor anyone else positive. It doesn't make any of us level up faster, so there's sort of no point to it unless everyone else is flaming.

General Esdeath 8/29/2017, 6:04:11 AM4 votes

OK but how do you know they honored each other? I don't see the message saying "X was the most honorable!" They could have just left.

A Pretty Unicorn8/29/2017, 6:04:38 AM4 votes

Complaining about not getting honored enough in the end game chat is toxic. Asking for honor because you're carrying is completely contrary to the system and I see that far more often than I see people not getting any honor when they were positive and fun to play with.

Everything I've seen, thus far, from you comes off as incredibly entitled. You're not entitled to honor from anyone.

VictoriousBard8/29/2017, 5:46:01 AM4 votes

The fact that you're willing to complain about not getting enough honor indicates you don't understand the point and aren't particularly honorable. Having the highest KDA doesn't automatically mean you deserve to be honored more than your teammates. Also, getting honored by premades you're playing with doesn't make you level faster anyways, consistently being a fun and positive person to play with does.

Queenpin8/29/2017, 4:02:38 PM3 votes

I've been in my fair share of games with premades as a result of the fact that I usually play League alone. My friends and I have different schedules (especially when school starts) so I'm usually chilling on my own if I'm online, and I gotta say I haven't experienced what you have. In fact, in my experience I usually get the most honor from premades. Now, obviously the fact that I've had no problem with getting honored by premade teams while you have, doesn't mean that there is never an issue with premade teams only honoring each other. But that doesn't change the fact that to my ears... you kinda sound like a "nice guy" who's mad about being "friendzoned".

Have you considered that the people you play with just valued something other that showing common curtesy? Maybe you were a "shot caller" but the team valued a person who was "gg <3" more or maybe the team thought it was valiant of teammate who was playing poorly remain "clam", or your team felt like you were spaming pings in order to be considered a "shot caller", or they just skipped honouring etc. etc. There are a multitude of things that factor into who does or doesn't get honour.

Imperial Pandaa8/29/2017, 5:23:37 AM2 votes

... I think you should read the honor faq again. They get minimal benefits from honoring each other. It may even be better for you since you know everyone will honor which means a small boost to everyone.

Edit with pull from FAQ: Can I game the system and boost to level 5 by constantly playing with a premade and honoring each other every game?

That’s a great idea. Luckily, we’ve broken a few systems in our day, too. So we specifically built Honor so potential exploits like this give you (and your friend) literally no benefit.

A Pretty Unicorn8/29/2017, 6:51:37 AM2 votes

I think the system is flawed, I'm not really trying to defend it. If a random isn't flaming or being rude, I generally honor them.

I'm simply calling it as I see it. Maybe you don't mean to come off the way you do, but talking about how you could have tilted but didn't flame anyone and how you deserve honor more than the other people sounds entitled. Not being a jerk is the socially normal thing to do when interacting with people, even if people flaming is something you just can't avoid in this game. I also think they shouldn't honor each other unless they have a reason to either, but assuming everyone who plays in premades does this is kinda unfair.

ModPeriscope8/29/2017, 5:30:31 AM1 votes

I would think you level up more slowly from gaining honor via premade. Pretty sure, but I'm not positive.

Sorry to ask but... You guys were so ahead. How'd you lose?

Kissie8/29/2017, 7:44:52 AM1 votes

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Zero Shingetsu8/29/2017, 5:21:30 AM1 votes

I used to get this nonsense all the time before the honor system even appeared. The thing I used to hate the most is that they'd all be on voice chat and would be completely silent with me, unless they wanted to bait jokes at my expense. I can get onboard with premades not honoring eachother. If Riot's going to make a legitimate game system out of it, they should implement ways to avoid cheesing it.