Explanation why Dota's moderation system is 100% times better than League

Mystery Ghost··7 votes·1,202 views

The most important thing is that in Dota there is no such thing as perma ban because there you use your Steam account as Dota account which means you can instantly take the law at your side if anything happens against your account not this ridiculous random chinese system that league has. The maximum ban that you can get in Dota is 24 hours not being able to write anything if you are toxic and you must win 1 to 3 games low priority queue if you are a leaver/afker but even to get that you need to try really really hard but still this is not why its better.

The real reason is that Valve understands how moba games work, unlike Riot who are 0% experienced , they understand that Mobas by nature will always have the most frustrating and negative enviroment that exists in the gaming industry and because they understand that they dont force the players to be depended on the other 4 people of their team, the reward system is a lot different.

In Dota you get your rewards by: -The time that you spend in the game , how many hours you played etc -How good you played, it has a full calculator of your own skills it counts how much you assisted, how much you fought enemy heroes, how much siege damage you did etc.

In League of Legends you get your rewards by: -Winning games.

This is the huge mistake that Riot did, by putting the rewards on winning games it means that you force the people to be 100% depended on what the others on their team do, including afkers/trolls/intentional feeders so by this you increase your game toxicity as high as possible and together with your very weird ban system you ban them for your own bad management. You basically taunt the players in every possible way to be toxic and then you ban them on top of this like a perfect trap. Even the ranked system in league should be based on the player's skills and not on wins/defeats right now its not serious at all and your division means literaly nothing at all.

12 Comments

Powderkegg8 votes

"Valve reserves the right, in its sole discretion, to terminate your account, refuse service to you, or cancel orders."

http://store.valvesoftware.com/terms_and_conditions.php

And a similar section can be found in steam's terms and conditions as well.

Woodakoodashooda5 votes

[{quoted}](name=Mystery Ghost,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=GwBKpcOq,comment-id=,timestamp=2016-01-26T13:28:27.126+0000)

you can instantly take the law at your side if anything happens against your account

The law is on Riot's side. Your account in LoL is not your property no matter how much money you spend on it. You are required to accept these terms and conditions before you are allowed to play.

Mobas by nature will always have the most frustrating and negative enviroment that exists in the gaming industry

Most of my games in League have been fun and stress free both in and out of ranked. I owe that in part to the elimination and moderation of negative players.

they (Valve) dont force the players to be depended on the other 4 people of their team

In Dota you get your rewards by: -The time that you spend in the game , how many hours you played etc -How good you played, it has a full calculator of your own skills it counts how much you assisted, how much you fought enemy heroes, how much siege damage you did etc.

http://na.leagueoflegends.com/en/site/2016-season-update/champion-mastery.html

Announced several months ago that LoL will be rewarding players more for their individual performance.

Even the ranked system in league should be based on the player's skills and not on wins/defeats right now its not serious at all .

Competing in a team game requires the entire team to perform well. You aren't going to win any contests in any team format if your team loses no matter how skilled you think you are.

Mystery Ghost4 votes

[{quoted}](name=Chocolate Frost,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=GwBKpcOq,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2016-01-26T13:52:01.321+0000)

The law is on Riot's side. Your account in LoL is not your property no matter how much money you spend on it. You are required to accept these terms and conditions before you are allowed to play.

That's what im talking about, on Steam/Dota 2 they cannot perma ban you, such thing does not exist there and if they ever did that you can instantly take the law at your side as long as you did purchases

and mobas arent really team games since you queue with random people that can be anyone and ruin the games, thats why making you be depended on wins means you are doomed to your luck with feeders/afkers/trolls etc which automaticly leads to toxicity and bans

Lauchmelder6 votes

Wrong. Volvo (Valve) can permaban you using their VAC (or "Valve Anti Cheat"). If you cheated you will get permabanned asap.

And wrong too. They can terminate your account any time. Most gaming companies have that Little paragraph in their ToS that makes it quite clear that they can.

GamblerOfLives2 votes

I just read what you said..the "toxicity" part is meh..but you are actually right..1 question..does dota give you an account?you own your own account there?

Mystery Ghost3 votes

{quoted}

I just read what you said..the "toxicity" part is meh..but you are actually right..1 question..does dota give you an account?you own your own account there?

You own your own account, you play dota with your Steam account, please dont tell me that you dont know what Steam is we are in 2016 everyone who has a PC is using Steam. And an account closure there is impossible to happen and has never happened while in League it happens every day because they are not a serious company and the league accounts are unstable

GamblerOfLives2 votes

[{quoted}](name=Mystery Ghost,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=GwBKpcOq,comment-id=00020000,timestamp=2016-01-26T14:45:22.521+0000)

You own your own account, you play dota with your Steam account, please dont tell me that you dont know what Steam is we are in 2016 everyone who has a PC is using Steam. And an account closure there is impossible to happen and has never happened while in League it happens every day because they are not a serious company and the league accounts are unstable

i used to have a steam,, until i discovered something ..i can play every game i want free:)..so, i don;t need steam.

Akaterina1 votes

Yeah... actually I think if you got banned in DoTa it would be worse. Both Steam and Dota are owned by Valve, and when you sign up there is a similar thing to when you sign up to LoL, basically they can ban your account for any reason if they want. If you cheat/feed/are toxic ect on LoL you get an escalating series of punishments. If you do the same on Dota, while they may be more lenient to begin with, there can be far harsher rewards. My cousin decided to use some sort of script/hack to see the whole map, and was banned by VAC... they didn't just ban his DoTa account, they banned his entire steam account which had well over 200 games on it.

Void Nargacuga1 votes

http://i1.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/353/279/e31.jpg

Well then... Good thing I'm no cheater then... I want to keep all my games I got via Steam. They are REALLY fun! Fallout 4, Undertale, Terraria, Age of Wonders 3, Civilization 5, Civilization BE, Warframe, Team Fortress 2, Garry's Mod, and Faster Than Light. I enjoy all of them, and don't want to lose them.

Disneylord4 votes

[{quoted}](name=Bow hunter 16,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=GwBKpcOq,comment-id=00030000,timestamp=2016-01-26T15:20:56.817+0000)

http://i1.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/353/279/e31.jpg

Well then... Good thing I'm no cheater then... I want to keep all my games I got via Steam. They are REALLY fun! Fallout 4, Undertale, Terraria, Age of Wonders 3, Civilization 5, Civilization BE, Warframe, Team Fortress 2, Garry's Mod, and Faster Than Light. I enjoy all of them, and don't want to lose them.

Steam accounts never get banned acctualy, the worse that can happen is getting game-specific bans for online games for example if you hack cs:go you get vac banned from that game specific but i dont think its even possible to hack it anymore

Void Nargacuga1 votes

Oh okay. Thanks for the info.

DeviousGrim1 votes

"Hey !, everyone !, let's go play SMITE !" [slayer-pantheon-popcorn]

More from Player Behavior

More by Mystery Ghost