we should be able to see who is queued together and report entire stacks

Rewt·12/9/2019, 12:15:16 AM·3 votes·2,552 views

The stereotype of the toxic 4 stack exists because it's like 90% accurate.

When you play with a 4 stack you become the pariah. They can do no wrong and refuse to admit to any mistakes, Instead they blame you for everything.

They didn't pay attention to the dragon timer or your pings of it, (and when you go in for the 1v5 smite duel you miss it because like that shit is hard) Blame your jungler say he is shit and completely ignore the fact that you weren't paying attention to the timer and getting in position.
Flame your random, And when he stops moving to type back, Spam missing ping and scream in all chat to report them for being afk.

Like..... this is every game that you are in this situation. if a stack gets reported too many times they are locked out from playing with each other for X Games. (like 3 is what I am figuring) And give them a chat ban.

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Imperial Pandaa12/9/2019, 1:00:39 AM7 votes

No, because it is improper to punish an entire premade just because of a member or two.

If someone is being toxic, mute if you feel the need. Report post game if you desire. But Jim Bob shouldn't have to worry about getting a penalty because Bob Jim flamed and they happen to duo.

AeroWaffle12/9/2019, 12:57:42 AM6 votes

No punishment should be attached to the number of reports alone.

And just because one person in the group of four is being rude doesn't mean you get to hold the other three accountable for that person's behavior. That's called guilt by association and it should not be used for game behavior punishments.

As it stands, one person's report is all it takes for a game to be reviewed for the person getting reported. Additional reports in one game do not increase the chances that the system looks at the game. So only you reporting someone is just as effective as 4 people reporting someone.

TrulyBland12/9/2019, 4:59:19 PM3 votes

The stereotype of the toxic 4 stack exists because it's like 90% accurate.

Which is what people say about every stereotype, even those that are demonstrably false. "Stereotypes exist for a reason" as people tend to say. The problem being that the reason stereotypes exist is rarely that they are accurate, and more often lies in a variety of biases (pretty much always including confirmation bias)… in fact that's even the case for most stereotypes that are accurate.

ModUlanopo12/9/2019, 2:26:49 AM2 votes

I have a friend who was pretty toxic back in the days of infinite chat restrictions. I played with him many times, trying my best to be a good role model. Ultimately, he quit League, which was probably for the best.

Under your idea, I would be punished for that and so I cannot agree.

fatherdarius12/12/2019, 4:51:19 AM1 votes

In my anecdotal experience, some of the coolest players I have met were 4-man teams where I happened to be the 5th wheel. Sure, there's been a couple of times where one of the team-members went off on me, but generally their friends/teammates are like "dude, i'm sorry our friend is an asshole", or "just ignore him he's salty".

Maybe I'm just lucky, I dunno.

Clockwork Mouse12/9/2019, 2:14:09 AM1 votes

Honestly, you are more toxic than most people I have seen in a while. Wanting to get people in trouble for who they associate with? It is this kind of thinking that led to factions in History like the Nazis.

Yin Yang Taoist12/9/2019, 4:44:08 PM1 votes

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The stereotype of the toxic 4 stack exists because it's like 90% accurate.

When you play with a 4 stack you become the pariah. They can do no wrong and refuse to admit to any mistakes, Instead they blame you for everything.

They didn't pay attention to the dragon timer or your pings of it, (and when you go in for the 1v5 smite duel you miss it because like that shit is hard) Blame your jungler say he is shit and completely ignore the fact that you weren't paying attention to the timer and getting in position.

Flame your random, And when he stops moving to type back, Spam missing ping and scream in all chat to report them for being afk.

Like..... this is every game that you are in this situation. if a stack gets reported too many times they are locked out from playing with each other for X Games. (like 3 is what I am figuring) And give them a chat ban.

There was a thread where someone wanted a toggle to agree Q'ing with premades or not. And depending on when they did, being rewarded for it. Because they were complaining about toxic premades as well.

The best way to approach this (according to Riot's policy); which also protects you from being punished- would be to simply mute and report them at the end of it. While the game doesn't offer you info. on whether someone is a premade or not, you can go to OP.GG and see who they've had their recent games with. You can also manually browse through their recent games to see if you can spot the others grouped with them.

Good luck on the rift, OP!

Tele II12/10/2019, 2:44:00 AM1 votes

No. Reports and punishments come down to behavior. Its already laid out. There is zero reason for your idea. If they break the rules, and you report them, they will be punished for breaking said rule. Premades dont deserve special treatment. They deal with the system the same way everyone deals with the system.