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It's really not enjoyable to play with you...

ReadyxPlayerxOne·1/23/2016, 7:01:37 AM·2 votes·861 views

When you're toxic.

It's not fun.

My last game... I wish it were my last in league. It was that kind of fun.

I'll explain. It's cait and leona vs nami and graves. I'm cait. I ask leona to save her engage for after I poke a bit, if she can land something on nami or to protect me if I get caught in a bubble (I dodged all but 1 in lane, but I thought I'd give myself the lifeline). Their response "gotta poke bro" "trust". Leona, rushes into them at level 1.. ALL IN, not a poke, ALL IN. Gets caught in bubble and doesn't die because I'm poking the hell out of them. Losing an entire minion wave in the process. I take a bit of damage, but I pop an early heal and hope it'll be back up by the time we need it again.

Level 2... ALL IN again... This time on the nami so she can't get bubbled. Graves q's and shoots twice and she has 10 hp. I soak all of graves dmg to her and catch nami in a trap. She doesn't die, we both have under 5% hp and have to back, at level 2.

I ask in chat, and this is exactly how I say it "Can you please be less agressive? I can poke them down, just save it, we're gonna get too far behind playing like this"

"Trust" Sejuani butts in "Trust Leona... she knows what she's doing"

Level 2 again, they're level 3. Engage on graves the second she sees him, stays in, nami bubble, escapes with 10% hp. I'm forced to farm under tower. I'm somehow keeping up with the graves in cs... but that's probably cause he's bad, not cause I was doing well.

Level 4, Engages on Nami, Graves knocks her down, I poke like crazy use every skill I have to counter their damage and get leona to tower. We both need to back.

"Can we please play safer? I mean, if you go in like that again you're gonna die and it's an intentional feed. You've gotta pull it back a bit."

"No, You're bad" - From both Sej and Leona.

I'm there csing. Leona runs to dragon. Possibly to ward. But I'm 2v1 under tower 2 and 3 levels behind now and somehow only 11 cs behind.

I die under tower. Finally got caught by a nami q while trying to bait one so I could cs a bit.

I ask "Can someone please switch with me? I'm having a very hard time playing how leona plays."

"WTF why so toxic" - Says xerath, sejuani and leona.

I then leave bot for top because I see their top roaming. Rengar and I push BOTH top towers down and even though I'm 4 levels behind I feel like I'm starting to recover. We back and realize mid and bot towers are gone. Not the end of the world. But it was frustrating. We're still further into their territory than they are to us.

The entirety of the rest of the game was leona and Sej flaming me for being bad and saying to report me...

After leaving lane 1/7/3 with 60 cs I fought back to the end to finish 7/9/12 with 220 cs (top cs, 2nd for gold 2 levels higher than leona and sej). In team fights I was the first one targeted. Those last 2 deaths were kindred and ahri and graves walking past leona and sej who refused to peel for me and blowing my ass up or chasing me out of the fight. It really sucked. I felt like I was fighting a 1v3 the entire time. Even when my team was around.

In the end game screen I said it was really unenjoyable to play with them. Maybe a bit toxic but I couldn't help it. I did report them. I hope something is done. But I don't think reporting should really be the only thing that improves peoples behavior.

I'm a person. A human being that isn't a piece of dog shit. I want to play this game to ENJOY it. I work hard EVERY game to win and even enjoy those rare "real" losses. But does it really need to go to the point that the WHOLE game is blamed on one person doing their damn best despite your actions to recover? Do you really have to be so rude as to blame me for all of your mistakes too?

TL;DR: I'm a person here. Just cause you think I'm bad or having a bad game doesn't give you the right to treat me like shit. It's not fair to call someone who has more cs, more gold, 2 more levels on you, more or similar kills, less or the same deaths and more or the same assists bad and the reason you lost.

My end: 7/9/12 220 cs (top on the team) level 18 Sej: 6/12/12 122 cs level 16 Leona: 7/11/16 131 cs level 16 Sej and leona flamed me the whole game that I was bad and the reason they lost.

14 Comments

PIMPSMOOTH1/23/2016, 7:41:23 AM2 votes

I hear where you're coming from, it's not fun when your lane partner refuses to cater to your style.

Once you said this sentence:

"Can someone please switch with me? I'm having a very hard time playing how leona plays."

That's basically a Code Red for trolls to go to straight to Defcon 5 lol.

MrHeroMode1/23/2016, 7:08:47 AM1 votes

sounds like me in quite a few games... then i get reported by trolls and banned for being "toxic" when instead i was being the teacher teaching how to win. some people do really stupid stuff so im a human i get mad im banned for wahtever reason... because i get constantly reported by trolls and negative players

GGX Millia1/23/2016, 9:48:12 AM1 votes

Your game is not on your account, therefore I can't check it. Pretty sure this is your smurf anyway.

In any case.

FIrst and foremost I'd check if Leona was duo/etc with someone (from the looks of it, possibly Seju). If so, you could see MMR mashup (aka made up average for 2 people) at work - one of the players was significantly worse than the average elo. Meaning that it's not even Leona's fault that the game went awry - she played the only way she could... it's like a child being brought into adults' basketball match, you can't really blame him for losing the ball.

Even if not duo'd (which I highly doubt), some pick random champs without even trying them at bots/normals. The player has no clue how the champ works - like if beginner Leona has E and someone in range, she will use it regardless of where creep wave is, how the enemy support can counter, etc. This one is actually player's fault that becomes a punishment for his teammates.

In any case,** you made the match worse for yourself ** when you "asked" to switch. You should never ask, really. Don't give any verbal reason for flames (and god knows, LoL players literally take almost anything as an offense), just rotate and do your thing. Bot towers drops for free, so be it. iIt's because.... if flaming starts, it tilts pretty much everyone on the team (both involved and uninvolved people), and it reduces your chances to win by a LOT. Hell, even if you don't win the game, it still gives less negative emotions when you lose it without a flame war starting.

Remember. You can't control your teammates. You CAN control what YOU do. Work with what you got.