What Intentionally feeding looks like in 2019

1MRPOPO·1/7/2019, 10:49:14 PM·44 votes·19,044 views

LOL 14 day suspension for intentially feeding and the 3 games posted for "evidence". My kayn game I could give you a descent argument if you go off enemy damage dealt and ignore drakes I got for team. Rumor has it drakes are bad right now xd. game 1 https://matchhistory.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/#match-details/NA1/2947834611/242945513?tab=overview game 2 https://matchhistory.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/#match-details/NA1/2945520190/242945513?tab=overview game 3 https://matchhistory.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/#match-details/NA1/2944691798/242945513?tab=overview

89 Comments

Jesus is Savior1/8/2019, 11:52:25 AM16 votes

So we actually can watch your replays. I didn't see anything wrong in the Eve game. In the Warwick game the only thing you did was "not help kill the enemy team while they were wrecking your base." However, I don't think you could have done anything. But it looks pretty bad, since when the nexus blows up you're pushing minions in a lane that doesn't even have an inhibitor down....

https://i.imgur.com/sQcUDqn.png/img

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#HOWEVER

The Kayne game. You are counterjungling while super behind, and then appear to.... Attempt to proxy farm your mid laners caster minions and then die (you are level 4, enemy mid laner is level 6 and almost full hp - and you take one turret shot)

Screenshots of this death

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And then.... Your next intentional death. You walk up to the level 6 enemy bottom laners, alone, while level 4, while outside of your turret's protection.... To.... Defend the turret? To die and attempt to kill some caster minions? lol

https://i.imgur.com/ZNZOmFY.png/img

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And then your next intentional (sort of?) death. You, being super duper behind, attempt to duel the full health level 7 Ornn (almost level 8 - reaches level 8 by the time you die) when you have just reached level 6 and have no gold or items.

https://i.imgur.com/LnuPZt8.png/img

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You do, however, appear to play normal after that. Just farming and taking dragons. I don't know what you said in chat. But it looks like you had 3 intentional deaths in one game (with only one of them being questionable - so 2 ints for sure). Does this deserve a 2 week ban? Well I didn't see the chat. I don't think 2 intentional deaths deserves a ban (especially since you won the game), but... Don't try to play it off as innocent. You did int. You just didn't int hard (and it was only in one game, not 3).

If you were banned JUST for these games, I honestly think you deserve a chat restriction instead. If everyone who griefed "just a little bit" got hit with a 2 week ban, I think 10% of the League population would get hit. Heck I had a game today where I said "im afk" and AFKed for 10 seconds (in response to a teammate griefing me and pretending to help me with dragon then leaving to let me die). Do I deserve a 2 week ban for AFKing for 10 seconds? I'd hope not. Does the guy who left me to die at dragon deserve a 2 week ban for letting me die? If that was the only game he did it, no. (Note: The guy who left me to die at dragon griefed in another way as well - he initiated a surrender vote as we were winning. 3 people total voted yes. I was really mad at him, and really wanted to vote yes, but for the sake of the one person who actually wanted to win, I did not vote and it failed 3-0, and we won like 30 seconds later)

BradNo1/7/2019, 11:12:48 PM16 votes

Show us the reform card

ProjectDawn1/8/2019, 1:39:13 AM7 votes

Lol at the 1st game. You have 3 KP as a HIGH mobility jungler with a twitch that has 23 kills? You should have a lot more KP. You very clearly AFK farm as a jungler. You deserve a ban.

Kanzler1/8/2019, 4:25:09 AM7 votes

I had an inter also have scores like yours. He inted a few kills at the start and followed the adc around trying to take cs but tried to hide his inting with some kill participation. He got that ban hammer reallllll quick after the game.

1MRPOPO1/8/2019, 12:42:34 AM6 votes

here is the response i get- Hey there,

Thanks for writing in! We've been pretty backed up lately.

Sorry to hear about the two-week suspension on your account. I know it can be disheartening to receive a penalty but I'd like to try to help you understand why this penalty was placed.

I understand it can come as a big surprise to get a two-week suspension for a first offense especially after playing for so long with good behavior. The reason this suspension was issued was due to clear intentional feeding. Evidence from the match history confirmed this to be true. We want the game to be as positive as possible for all players and intentionally feeding ruins that for all the players in the game. This is why a harsher penalty is applied regardless of how long the account was in good standing.

I know this type of behavior doesn't happen often but I do want to let you know that this two-week suspension is a final warning for any further instances of intentionally feeding. This includes griefing, trolling, or giving up. If it does happen again, it will result in a permanent ban. I don't want to see that happen as I'm sure you don't either. So I recommend always trying your best from here on out.

With that said, I'm afraid the two-week suspension will have to remain. This might not come off as the best news but I'm confident this won't be an issue for you in the future.

If you have any further questions, feel free to reach out!

Jenny711 [^._.^]ﾉ彡 Player Support Specialist

Telephone Booth1/7/2019, 11:20:35 PM5 votes

Well as long as you have at least 1 death, match history stats mean pretty much nothing. To intentionally feed, all someone has to do is give the other team a kill intentionally. Maybe someone will watch the actual games, but i cant. Good luck getting it overturned if you didnt int.

Silent Gravity1/8/2019, 11:49:35 AM4 votes

https://youtu.be/VaB9wF-qy68 That looks like an inting death to me, along with 4 other, slightly better disguised, inting deaths that game. Aside from your deaths, and taking dragon, you were basically AFK that game. You abandoned and avoided your teammates. The 3.8k damage dealt stat shows that off pretty well.

https://youtu.be/Pri-yazTX7Q Your 6/9/4 Warwick game was flagged as inting because you did not try to survive the first contact with the opponents. Going AFK at any time can be a large blow to your team, and I understand where the IFS is coming from.

Your Evelyn game is too far back to watch.

Naalith1/8/2019, 1:41:45 AM4 votes

Yikes. I have absolutely no idea how this got you banned, and I'm pretty sure every person on the forums has had far worse games in their past where they legitimately were trying to win but were getting obliterated. I know that over the years I've gone 2/13 or 0/double digits before. Of course, I was hard countered or trying a new meme in normals but I would always try to win no matter what even when my score dipped that low. 6/9 and 4/5? Those are like... normal games I have no clue what is happening there. 0/7 isn't even that bad, I would say a game like that happens like every couple hundred games or so for everyone.

The only thing I can possibly think of is that in chat you admitted to inting some of your deaths. Maybe after you died a few times and you had flaming teammates you sarcastically said "yup imma int" or maybe you actually did give up a few kills on purpose and said so in chat. This looks like a false positive to me, hopefully you can get it repealed because lots of people just end up with punishments in cases that are clearly false positives.

OneMustFall1/8/2019, 10:57:47 AM3 votes

The problem here is without having replays to watch we don't know exactly what happened in those matches. It's not about intentionally feeding, anyone can see that. But that doesn't mean you didn't break the rules. The card covers intentionally feeding, griefing or somehow trying to intentionally lose a match. I am sure you were reported for a reason other than "My jungler sucks" and others have alluded to the fact your CS is higher than normal which could be you AFK farming or even going into lanes and taking their farm.

Update: So after watching the replays, the first Kayn game was clearly trolling. You went behind enemy turrets and gave them free kills or you would go 1v2 into clearly losing fights. You refused to help the team at all the entire game and would only focus jungle camps. Your assists came from you attacking enemies in their jungle and then your team coming over to help you. You didn't gank a single lane and refused to push lanes at all even when no one was there.

The Warwick game was more lowkey but it appeared several times that you ignored your teammates pings for help and just the enemy take towers. Then at the very end of the game you completed ignored the team fight happening in your base (Which could have been won with your help) and just AFK farmed the minions behind the fight.

On it's own the WW game wouldn't be enough to merit any kind of punishment but the Kayn game was egregious enough that you can sense a pattern going on where you likely get slighted by someone's comments and throw the game.

Final Verdict: Ban is warranted.

Aladoron1/8/2019, 11:53:53 AM3 votes

Can you post your games on YT or somewhere?

Your Kayn dying 5 times in 4 mins is really strange on the first game, what happened? In the WW game you died twice between 1 and 2 minutes, how? On the Eve game i do not see anything strange now at first look, but posting your games would really help everyone to explain what happened.

Anyway, if you really feel this is unjustified, try the support. When one of their bots answer back, try again, once you will get a human somehow.

Prozzak1/8/2019, 4:37:23 AM3 votes

The Kayn game you died 5 times in basically 4 minutes (first death was slightly before the 4 minute mark and 5th death was slightly before the 8 minute mark). That is one clear mark towards int feeding.

The Warwick game you died not once, but twice pre 2 minutes. How is that possible without inting?

The Eve game I don't see anything that sticks out as much as the other two.

With the above in mind, I have a feeling someone isn't telling the full story here.

Altonius Amakiir1/8/2019, 7:11:10 PM2 votes

Game 1: You took 10x the amount of damage you dished out with respect to champions, 7% kill participation, 207 cs but only 3 were lane minions, 3-way tie for most deaths on team. Clearly you didn't gank, participate in team fights, or push a lane, and were farming the jungle all game. It would not be unreasonable to then also assume you inted at some point as well, even were that not the case, you were certainly trolling. Actually, looking at the match overview you died 5 times in 4 minutes, it seems you inted by just running to a different lane repeatedly letting them kill you in that timespan. Depending on your actual pathing and actions in game I would also accuse you of using an afk-bot to farm exp.

Conclusion 1: inter and troll, possible third-party program user.

Game 2: You died twice before 2 minutes and looking at the kill map, neither was from them invading you guys. Clearly inting in my opinion, you died twice in the same spot at the river outside their blue buff. Seeing as no one else then died you tried to invade alone by walking up to them twice. First blood at 1:14 and second death at about 1:45, just about the minimum time to get back there to die again. Again, no teammates to help. Clearly inting. Seems you stopped inting after that, but that intitially inting gave the enemy team a 1000 gold lead and lost your bot lane for you.

Conclusion 2: Either someone pissed you off in pre-game lobby so you inted to "teach them a lesson", or no one would follow your stupid invade so you gave them another kill to spite your team. Inting.

Game 3: Don't see any repeated deaths; you didn't do a lot of damage, but neither did anyone else on your team; you had reasonable kill participation; you had a decent kda; you helped push lanes. From all the data I can see, nothing looks amiss, just looks like a bad game. However, based on the other two games I've looked at, that isn't necessarily the reality. It's possible that the deaths you did have were ones of non-resistance or that you would sit by and let you team die to them/weaken them to try to go in for the kill steal afterwards alone and die tragically. I can't be certain.

Conclusion 3: Reasonable doubt of wrongdoing in this game. If they actually need to have 3 games to ban you, I would try to appeal this game only.

1MRPOPO1/7/2019, 11:56:15 PM2 votes

After I finished my last game I didn't take a screen shot of it but the instant I was out it just said "your account has been suspended due to intentionally feeding log back in to see more" or something like that. So I wouldn't recommend ignoring duos in game cause if they make a false report they will get ya! I already asked for some real evidence other then just game stats... Like show me chat where I flame all game, cuss, or anything other then this. Maybe I'm just out of the loop, but that is not feeding in my book.

https://imgur.com/a/pUEsof4

Slythion1/8/2019, 3:53:35 AM2 votes

"trolling, griefing, intentional feeding, etc etc" are the possible reasons you got banned

All it takes is one intentional death, 30 seconds of trolling in a game, stealing cs from a laner, or anything from the bunch of other possible reasons. KDA, gold, or anything else from a post-game lobby can not completely prove your innocence, only posting the full clips of all 3 games would be able acceptable as a reason for anyone on the boards to confirm your innocence.

FioraWillCarry1/8/2019, 7:16:52 AM2 votes

This is fuckin bullshit. I get a 14 day ban for one unfortunate game where I said a few words and actual inters get away? And now you ban OP for dying a couple times? Does Riot not know what inting looks like?

https://matchhistory.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/#match-details/NA1/2897285381/228591326?tab=overview

HERE RIOT....AN ACTUAL FUCKIN INTER. HE THREW A WON GAME JUST BECAUSE OUR JUNGLER WAS BETTER THAN HIM AND HE COULDN'T BE THE HERO THAT HARD CARRIED. WHY THE FUCK ISN'T HE BANNED? I FUCKIN REPORTED THAT GARBAGE MONTHS AGO AND NOT A FUCKIN THING WAS EVER DONE. WHY THE FUCK IS RIOT ALWAYS BANNING THE WRONG FUCKIN PEOPLE!!

General Esdeath 1/8/2019, 7:57:28 AM2 votes

Fun fact, the person who intentionally fed in Dunkey's quitting League video IS STILL PLAYING. I think Riot may have a problem with their ban system.

TheMonkeyKiing1/8/2019, 1:27:29 PM2 votes

You know what is funny about this? I've seen worse. I've had players who go 0/14/0 and I think they got away with it because it was a normal blind pick summoner's rift game. But I do know, score shouldn't be what determines intentional feeding. I could go 0/10 but all those 10 deaths was to save an ally with a high bounty. I'm not sure what they calculated to determine you were trolling but I just feel it's kind of stupid that it is only punished in ranked.

Revenge of Teeto1/8/2019, 2:22:59 PM2 votes

Honestly I would be 100% on board if Riot could focus way more on things like this vs IFS chat banning/perma banning people over "toxic" chat, which can literally be handled in seconds (mute). You honestly looked like you didn't int, BUT...

They need to bring back the tribunal, more than anything, especially with replay available so we can get the bans right. I would gladly watch a 5 minute death montage of int reports and gladly put people away for good who int even 1 game. One game of someone just trolling around/running it down mid should be enough to finish that account, that is the most toxic thing you could do in the entire game imo, worse than any word you could say in chat to a bunch of anonymous no ones. Just my 2 cents.

Miraculum1/8/2019, 3:50:57 PM2 votes

then you look at your damage to champions...

V The Support V1/8/2019, 9:59:30 AM1 votes

2 weeks doesn't come out of nowhere.

You have a history and you know it.