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Lack of information and guidance

xchriso·4/19/2018, 6:44:45 PM·2 votes·2,548 views

(This is not me wanting to be unbanned//more of a suggestion to improve the system, also saying that the system is not terrible)

When I received my first 2 week suspension I made an honest attempt at improving my behavior. I changed and lowered my level of toxicity. For 5 months I went without even a notice about my behavior and my honor level was rising. This gave me the idea that I was doing well, that I had reformed. Some time later I received a permanent ban. I really wanted to change for the better, to a level of acceptable behavior. After asking riot to repeal/lower the level of punishment (back to 2 weeks) and asking them to check my chat logs (I was convinced that something strange happened), I found out what their vision of an acceptable behavior was but now it was too late. I really wanted to become apart of riot's vision.

  1. When you are greeted with your message telling you that you are banned for 2 weeks (or any punishment level for that matter), it should tell you what you should aim to become, whether that be through a link or a giant paragraph. They could have a video explaining thoroughly what kind of behavior is acceptable and what is not. -Until after I was banned I realized that asking for reports was a bannable offense for example. -It is easier to accomplish your goal if you have a clear goal.

  2. After you start playing on your account (after 2 week suspension) you should receive messages regarding if you are on the right track or not. -In my case I thought I was on the right track since my honor level was rising and a long time had passed.

I simply do not want people that are putting an honest effort into improving to get banned like me :/. I also think it is much more easier to change your behavior if you know what it should change into.

17 Comments

Chermorg4/19/2018, 6:53:28 PM2 votes

  1. This already exists, although you may have forgotten about it. It's called the Summoner's Code - which also has a more interactive version. Those are the codes of conduct that you agreed to when you created your account, and they are the codes by which punishments are applied.

  2. The problem with this type of system is it allows players to "game" the system - by being just toxic enough until they get a "whoa nelly, slow down buckaroo" message saying they're not on the right track, then calm it down, then be toxic again.. in a never ending cycle. You really shouldn't need a message saying you're on the right track - after your 14 day suspension it's expected you won't be toxic again - that's actually the goal of all punishments, but especially the 14 day ban. If you really wanted to change, to put it quite bluntly, you would have changed and stopped being negative altogether. It's possible - a vast majority of those who get one 10 game chat restriction never receive another punishment - and that statistic holds true for each punishment tier (i.e. those who end up with a 25 game chat restriction, a majority never get a further punishment, and those who get a 14 day ban, a majority never get a further punishment). While there are a very small number of players who do reform after the permanent ban, statistics and tests of "unbanning" accounts with conditions show that players who are permanently banned by and large would not have ever reformed. If you truly cared about reforming - which is the goal - you wouldn't need to ask for a "you're on the right track" message - because your desire to be a team player would come from within. Your desire to see what track you're on is indicative of a "I don't wanna be punished again" attitude - not a "I want to be as positive and helpful of a team player as I can be" attitude, which is what true reform is.

Kei1434/19/2018, 9:13:42 PM2 votes

I'm always for more direction, clarity and education for the behavioral system.