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Riot caters to spoiled toddlers.

HavokDash·2/2/2018, 6:34:31 PM·1 votes·1,300 views

Yeah, They create the very toxicity they fight. They create a team based game, then tell people that the only way to move up, is to give your team the middle finger. Its funny, I got banned because I said I didnt want to support a kalista, when every previous game kalista has only fed the enemy after talking about how "amazing" they are as kalista "dont worry, I am good, I will solo carry".

So yeah I made a new account. And I plan to basically tell my team to F@$# off. Because caring about your teammates is a suckers game. People only bring up the "its a team game" arguement when its convenient for them. When kids throw win-loss ratios at you? they ignore the team, its all about your Solo score. Your Kda? solo score. But if you build something that the TEAM doesnt like. Or you get a kill when you are supposed to "give kills to adc" Suddenly "its a team game"

So I have gotten sick of it. Nah I am not just muting my team. I am happy to let them die and not lift a finger. Because they will do the exact same for me and then tell me how its my fault for getting CC'ed and 4v1'ed So Yeah. I am toxic, I was made that way by this community. By a bunch of toddlers who are so coddled and self important by Riot that they render the summoners code USELESS. I will play my games by myself, for myself. I am done trying to be a team player. I am Done trying to consider my teammates anything other than an obstacle, an extention of the enemy. Children too wrapped up in patting themselves on the back and convinced by Riot that they are the "solo carry"

Dont talk to me about playing as a team, Riot breeds the very narcissism and toxicity it claims to fight. You take a team game and expect people to work together while telling each player they have to fight thier own team in order to be the "solo carry" and all that matters is their solo stats.

So I will use this account to be the constant fly buzzing in your ear. Reminding you just how sad and pathetic this community has become. How it has been coddled and catered to the the point every game is nothing but spoiled toddlers going on about how "trash" their team is, How they are "Too good for this team" or "These bronze garbage kids"

Stop lying to everyone. This community is entirely trash, no exceptions. Anytime someone brings up "hey here is something wrong with the community" rather than try and look at it, you just downvote and ignore it because it hurts your precious little feelings. I hope I am in your games, and personally I HOPE i ruin it for you. Not intentionally, but just so these toddlers will stop acting like "well i dont see it, it doesnt effect me, so it doesnt exist"

But then again the community is too busy with thier "Im too OP" circle-jerk so I dont think they are smart enough to actually look at the attitudes they push. Enjoy your losses, here is hoping to many for you. ALL OF YOU.

87 Comments

Jo0o2/2/2018, 6:38:55 PM16 votes

Oh hey, I remember you.

Still building random items on random champs in random lanes in Bronze 5 while making forum threads to complain about other people? Seems that way.

redniwediS2/2/2018, 6:42:53 PM4 votes

Its funny, I got banned because I said I didnt want to support a kalista,

Why even bother? People around here understand the ban system, no one is going to fall for this.

Chat logs or no one is going to take you seriously.

ModPeriscope2/2/2018, 10:12:45 PM3 votes

I really don't think Riot gives a crap whether you play as a team or try to solo-carry every game. They make that pretty clear in that they only punish playstyles that show a lack of intent to win the game.

But the fact is, this is a team game. It's why there's grouping at some point in the game. It's why there's coordination. It's why you're on one side, and the enemy is on the other. To suggest otherwise is ridiculous. Seriously. How can you look at the group of players on either side of the rift and say they're not a team. Sure, teamwork does not always trump individual talent, but with equal talent, teamwork will triumph. It is the single factor that evolves throughout every single game. If you deny its strength, then you are blind to how this game is played, on any level.

I will play my games by myself, for myself. I am done trying to be a team player.

I really don't think this is the game for you. Clearly, you're not interested in working with others, so why bother playing this game?

Anytime someone brings up "hey here is something wrong with the community" rather than try and look at it, you just downvote and ignore it because it hurts your precious little feelings.

You're reading far too into downvotes. Maybe people just hate you, maybe they didn't read your post, or any other stupid reason. I frankly don't agree with much of what you said, but saying "this isn't a team game" coupled with your assumptions about the community earn a downvote from me. I feel your statements in these two areas are a gross characterization of the game and the community.

La Belle Sauvage2/2/2018, 6:51:47 PM2 votes

The irony in your post is too rich.

You write about spoiled childish behavior and toxcity, when your entire post is just that. And this game and community didn't make you toxic.

You are toxic. You have a rotten attitude. And you are in complete control of both how you act and react to players independent of this game and it's community.

Time to grow up.

HalcyonDweller2/2/2018, 7:37:47 PM2 votes

Toxicity comes from the players, not from Riot.

When people tilt and start taking things personally they start flaming each other. Flaming someone who's not yet tilted results in them flaming back. It's a problem with multiple sources and causes, and each player is responsible for handling themselves responsibly regarding it.

If you want teammates to treat you with respect and kindness start by treating them that way yourself. Passive aggressive comments and demands about champion choices or item builds will only hurt your ability to make them want to listen. People listen and follow leaders who act respectable, such as by being friendly and communicative about what they want done. For example, "Hey I can't play with a Kalista in lane, it never works, would you please be willing to play a different champion this game?"

YerroFever2/2/2018, 7:01:01 PM1 votes

I would disagree that Riot created toxicity.

Its funny, I got banned because I said I didnt want to support a kalista, when every previous game kalista has only fed the enemy after talking about how "amazing" they are as kalista "dont worry, I am good, I will solo carry".

So yeah I made a new account. And I plan to basically tell my team to F@$# off. Because caring about your teammates is a suckers game. People only bring up the "its a team game" arguement when its convenient for them.

When kids throw win-loss ratios at you? they ignore the team, its all about your Solo score. Your Kda? solo score. But if you build something that the TEAM doesnt like. Or you get a kill when you are supposed to "give kills to adc" Suddenly "its a team game"

I think there are some points you are missing.... actually some key points that are leading to your frustration.

I completely understand not wanting to support a specific champ. I main mid and support and I know what it's like to have to support a champion that is antithetical to your support style. I dislike it very much and I know how you feel when someone picks a champ that does not match your main supports and play style.

This is the give and go portion. This is where you can ask if they have another main ADC to see if they can play with a style that is more compatible with yours. It is a team game and you are allowed to ask. Just because you're the support doesn't mean you have to capitulate to everyone else. You still have a voice and you still have a say.

Regarding the kill situation, there are many times where I have gotten kills as the support and no one bats an eye and it's usually for kill secured situations rather than kill stolen. So say there's like a 100% chance that the enemy is going to die, that's when you leave it up to the ADC because as a support, you most likely aren't going to hard carry the team. It's just more efficient. If there's like a 10% chance your ADC will live and a 90% chance the enemy will live, it's better to go all in and go for the kill to ensure your TEAM gets the kill and your ADC survives. If the ADC and your teammates don't understand that, then that's their problem. It's about efficiency.

If we go outside the realm of the ideal situation where your ADC kills the enemy ADC and their support, or the second most ideal situation where your ADC kills the enemy ADC or support and the other one gets away (which is where no one ever complains) and we go into the realm of situations where people do complain, we have these scenarios:

Situation 1: Worst case scenario Enemy ADC gets all of the kills (regardless of if it's your ADC, support, or both. When the enemy ADC gets kills and you don't, it's the worst case) Your team gets 0 kills

Situation 2: Second worst case scenario Enemy support gets kills and enemy ADC gets assists Your team gets 0 kills

Situation 3: Ehhh.... at least there's some assist gold... but still doesn't compensate for dead time and exp loss Your Support kills enemy ADC or support Enemy kills your ADC

Situation 4: Good but not great. Support kills enemy ADC or support Your ADC survives

Situation 3 and 4 are always more favorable to situations 1 and 2. Yes people will complain but that's because THEY are self centered as the ADC or don't understand the game as a team game.

As you get in higher ELO's, you'll more frequently meet people who understands this.

If you play selfishly all the time, regardless of how good your ADC is just to protect your KDA, you will never actually go up in rank. If your ADC is just as good as you, both of you need to put in 100%, otherwise, the enemy will always have the advantage.

When you meet an ADC you can trust, put your full ass in it because if you half ass it with an ADC you should have trusted, all you'll do is guarantee a loss.

La Belle Sauvage2/2/2018, 8:15:12 PM1 votes

Havok how about this?

I play ADC as a secondary position. I main Support and climbed from B5 to S4 last year. I'm willing to play some norms with you as your ADC if you want to continue playing Gragas support. Build what you want I won't say a word.

After we play enough games and you're interested I can share my ideas on Support between two low elo players in an effort to help you out.

If your agreeable let me know. I mute all so I won't be communicating except for pings.